FRMN01
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I did 1 cycle, 0.2mg a day for 20 days. Sleep improved, felt better in general. Will repeat. Probably will go up to 0.5mg a day.

This is great! Thanks so much!yrrdead said:This site has a ton of protocols in a good format. Don't remember who linked it but I reference it quite a bit.
PEPTIDEREARCHINSTITUTE.ORG
www.peptideresearchinstitute.org

Is this a thing? What other peps have people successfully used with their dog? My beloved 15-lb chihuahua-something(?she's a rescue) mix has a thymoma in her chest. I've been taking her to a functional medicine vet for three years+. She has lived over 3 years beyond the oncologists' "she has 3 months to live at most" primarily through ozone therapy, high-dose vitamin C IVs, viscum album and other protocols and supplements. But she's (very very suddenly) having an issue where her fur is getting these hard clumps (which may be an overactive immune response but I'm waiting for my next appointment. She's lost a good bit of fur. I'm wondering if GHK-cu or BPC or TB500 or something else might help her? Also, I don't want to hurt her or make anything worse and I know the latter two might promote the thymoma growth. And I know this is off-topic, but since someone else asked about their dog… I'd love to know if anyone has had success helping their dog with any peptides?CNCCurrency said:Who if anyone else pins there dog?
Thanks, man. To go a little tangential, you mind talking about your hgh experience? How long you been on it? If you're comfortable sharing, what's your age and such, and what's your experience been? Any sides?mrfat said:I've tried various protocols of epitalon and tangible effects were always underwhelming.
100mcg/day for a month with no appreciable effect.
10mg/day for 10 days, slightly better sleep where I would wake up less. Didn't feel tired waking up but still a bit groggy.
1mg/day for 30 days, Like the 10mg dose, slightly better sleep. No increased energy or improved memory or concentration either.
I run a bunch of other stuff(HGH, glutathione, NR/NAD+, reta) continually so epitalon doesn't seem to impart much effect for me.

I have been for 4 months now, and it has helped her. I noticed she was getting black aging spots in her coat, They have now gone from black to the brindle color. I figure if it slows our cellular aging that it would slow hers also. Since dogs age 7 x faster than we do. There are lots of animal studies done.timj382 said:Is this a thing? What other peps have people successfully used with their dog? My beloved 15-lb chihuahua-something(?she's a rescue) mix has a thymoma in her chest. I've been taking her to a functional medicine vet for three years+. She has lived over 3 years beyond the oncologists' "she has 3 months to live at most" primarily through ozone therapy, high-dose vitamin C IVs, viscum album and other protocols and supplements. But she's (very very suddenly) having an issue where her fur is getting these hard clumps (which may be an overactive immune response but I'm waiting for my next appointment. She's lost a good bit of fur. I'm wondering if GHK-cu or BPC or TB500 or something else might help her? Also, I don't want to hurt her or make anything worse and I know the latter two might promote the thymoma growth. And I know this is off-topic, but since someone else asked about their dog… I'd love to know if anyone has had success helping their dog with any peptides?
Thanks, man. To go a little tangential, you mind talking about your hgh experience? How long you been on it? If you're comfortable sharing, what's your age and such, and what's your experience been? Any sides?

That's great. I'm always hesitant because I'm constantly finding out that... oh, my dog CAN'T have grapes (etc. ad nauseam) because it could kill her. And the "it" is always something I wouldn't have suspected. But I love that it's helping your baby. We were giving our dog Viscum Album (functional medicine chemo alternative - mistletoe derived) and she quickly learned what a syringe needle was and starts bucking like a bronco if she sees a syringe in her vicinity. So there's that. Haha. But I may give this a go yet. Appreciate it. Your dog is a cutie, btw.CNCCurrency said:I have been for 4 months now, and it has helped her. I noticed she was getting black aging spots in her coat, They have now gone from black to the brindle color. I figure if it slows our cellular aging that it would slow hers also. Since dogs age 7 x faster than we do. There are lots of animal studies done.

After 21 days, the study revealed normal cells finally reacting to Epitalon, so personally. I would dose for 25 - 30 days at 100 mcg/day and then cycle every 3 months...FRMN01 said:I did 1 cycle, 0.2mg a day for 20 days. Sleep improved, felt better in general. Will repeat. Probably will go up to 0.5mg a day.
Interesting, next cycle I may go for 30 days.Jude133 said:After 21 days, the study revealed normal cells finally reacting to Epitalon, so personally. I would dose for 25 - 30 days at 100 mcg/day and then cycle every 3 months...
3 total grams Epitalon every 4 months!
A (still non-peer reviewed) paper which published in July 2025 suggests that Epitalon may be used safely to maintain telomeres in healthy individuals without triggering the cancer-associated ALT pathway in normal tissue. In addition, the study was conducted, and here's the interesting conclusion:
"Our results indicate that epitalon increases telomere lengths of both cancer (21NT and BT474, Fig. 1) and normal cells (IBR.3 and HMEC, Fig. 1) invitro. However, normal cells required a longer, 3-week incubation compared to the cancer cells 4 days. Normal cells may require a longer incubation period for telomere elongation as they do not possess telomere maintenance mechanisms running within them. Epitalon will have to activate these mechanisms and several rounds of cellular division may be required before we see any increase in telomere length."
Epitalon increases telomere length in human cell lines through telomerase upregulation or ALT activity
Epitalon, a naturally occurring tetrapeptide, is known for its anti-aging effects on mammalian cells. This happens through the induction of telomerase enzyme activity, resulting in the extension of telomere length. A strong link exists between telomere length and aging-related diseases. ...
www.researchsquare.com

Look into the differences between Epithalamin and Epitalon. The old protocols were for Epithalamin, the precursor, and the new ones use Epitalon. That's what I found in my research, but there is still some debate.jw717us said:Just looking into this and saw the 100mcg vs 10mg dose clarification. Many of the current recommendations out there still seem to cite the older 10mg dose. There still seems be a prettyy big divide on this one!
I have and that is exactly the disconnect I see.Chili777 said:Look into the differences between Epithalamin and Epitalon. The old protocols were for Epithalamin, the precursor, and the new ones use Epitalon. That's what I found in my research, but there is still some debate.
Me too. I'm going with the smallest effective dose and 1mg IN I think was effective for me. I'm going to go Sq for the next cycle in 4 months.jw717us said:I have and that is exactly the disconnect I see.
That's where I'm left going back and forth 1mg per day or 100mcg per day. 1mg is pointed to for the older studies with the less concentrated alternative. 100mcg seems to be the correct amount for Epitalon based on the updated translation.Chili777 said:Me too. I'm going with the smallest effective dose and 1mg IN I think was effective for me. I'm going to go Sq for the next cycle in 4 months.
If it's actually 10x Epithalamin, 1mg would be appropriate. 100mcg would be 100x. I don't think that dose would be therapeutic for me, but everyone is different.jw717us said:That's where I'm left going back and forth 1mg per day or 100mcg per day. 1mg is pointed to for the older studies with the less concentrated alternative. 100mcg seems to be the correct amount for Epitalon based on the updated translation.
For some peptides, it does take an increased dose for IN, but Epitalon has a low Dalton weight of 390.35 which makes it very bioavailable. 1 mg provided excellent results for me and I have a test partner that is also seeing good results at that dosage. Epitalon has 60-70% bioavailability via IN so efficacy is actually higher than that of an sq dose. Selank and Semax are also in the same category. Using SQ, I would start at 1mg and go up to 2 mg, but you don't gain a lot by going higher.DjJoshua said:If 1 to 5mg a day is a good cycle.. Any info on splitting the administration? like injection of a small dose then Intranasal ? I found online that the Bioavailability & Efficacy Intranasal often requires 2–3× higher doses than subcutaneous injection to match effects? any thoughts. I am asking because I am such a kitty when it comes to injecting a lot of things at once.... I know i know it if you looked at me you would thing I would be the LAST person that would be afraid of anything, well i am. lol
Let us know it works out. I'm going to use SQ with my next cycle in 4 months. I want to compare the two methods.DjJoshua said:Thank you ill stick and STICK to that mg ..