Do people tend to stall around 210 after starting at 250-300 lbs with GLP-1s?

[ladyj779]

Brand (compound co.), or cap color (grey), so I know what the heck I'm taking and when then some are doses in mg, like the compounds, some in units because I definitely do things weirdly. Or badly.

Like I'm currently trying to use up two different compound tirz vials with different concentrations because reasons...if I don't keep track, and visually, I'll end up...having a bad day

 

[Spork]

Yes, 204.9…. I would like to know what it feels like to be a “normal “ BMI.

So at my absolute peak I was over 400 lbs (back then it was hard to find scales that went higher than that back then and frankly, I stopped being interested in knowing what I was at).

I managed to get down to 189 lbs. That was a fucking trip.

This was around 20+ years ago.

But as any of us know who have been in the yo-yo game for a while, inevitably I started gaining that back. Got up into the 380's and then started bouncing around again.

Right now I'm on 15mg of tirzepatide and am down from 365 on January 1st to a bit under 315 now... my general goal is also 204.9 but actually 199 just because it's hilarious being under 200 lbs to me.

Those of us suffering from obesity generally have metabolisms and bodies that are one big non-stop "fuck off with your weight loss nonsense". Which sucks, but it's whatever. Really tough having your body play so hard against you. I'm glad these drugs are finally leveling the playing field there.

The article that always hit home for me was the one where they studied people from "The Biggest Loser" (10 years old but still really interesting)

Gifted link, no paywall:

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/02/health/biggest-loser-weight-loss.html?unlocked_article_code=1.l1A.-DJz._q1AbJQk_6TX&smid=url-share

 

[Grogu]

Right now I'm on 15mg of tirzepatide and am down from 365 on January 1st to a bit under 315 now... my general goal is also 204.9 but actually 199 just because it's hilarious being under 200 lbs to me.

Those of us suffering from obesity generally have metabolisms and bodies that are one big non-stop "fuck off with your weight loss nonsense". Which sucks, but it's whatever. Really tough having your body play so hard against you. I'm glad these drugs are finally leveling the playing field there.

Congratulations on your success! That’s freaking awesome weight loss in 5 months!

Yeah, I’ve thought about breaking the 200 lb barrier, but I’ve been at this for 17 months and I’m growing weary. Not that maintenance is going to be any easier, but if I could just get the to 204.9, I think I would be in a good place.

Yes, these medications finally level the playing field!

 

[Spork]

Congratulations on your success! That’s freaking awesome weight loss in 5 months!

Yeah, I’ve thought about breaking the 200 lb barrier, but I’ve been at this for 17 months and I’m growing weary. Not that maintenance is going to be any easier, but if I could just get the to 204.9, I think I would be in a good place.

Yes, these medications finally level the playing field!

Yeah, I mean have you thought of going hardcore "iron will" and eating at a severe deficit for a few weeks just to get you over the hump?

Obviously have to weigh (no pun intended) all the shit that goes along with that, and the psychological strain, but maybe if you set a finite goal it's something you could just white knuckle through?

Just thinking of all the things I've done in the past to lose weight. They work, sure, but then you just gain it back. Like I drank just protein shakes (4 per day) and was only taking in 720 calories a day - this is without any sort of GLP-1 help. It's not sustainable, but if you're getting nutrients from that and burning fat I figure there shouldn't be any hugely seriously long-term consequences or anything from that. I did that for 100 days and lost 90 lbs. (gained it all back - whee!)

MUCH harder to do now that you're so much closer to goal, but I could see myself doing something a little radical like that towards the end of this with the hopes that if you're on these meds for the rest of your life, it's actually reasonable to maintain the loss and not rebound.

I think anyone who has been struggling with their weight over many years, or their whole lives, ends up getting a little messed up in the head, so I know stuff I've done could appear absolutely bananas to someone who hasn't lived through it, so I know I might sound nuts, but I am just trying myself to plan ahead for any significant plateaus. I just want to be at a weight I want to be at and then finally maintain it and not do the stupid rebounding that has plagued me my entire life.

 

[bockscar]

Im running low dose bi weekly reta....been stalling/slowing and expect a bigger stall in the next week or two. partly was operator error cuz i ate good this weekend and drank beers 2 weeks ago, but i think when that initial fat iceberg is shed youll start slowing down on the weight loss. I was literally losing 1/pound a day the first 2 weeks and feeling great too! Still gotta be disciplined though to let the drugs do what they do imo

 

[staffn1]

If you are at a stall and countng calories consistently for a few weeks that is your TDEE for your actual activity level/exercise/etc. The error on TDEE calculators are more than typical calorie deficits. They are garbage. Another issue is that people have consistently shown an inability to count actual calories - meaning their eye is a poor judge. Actually measure/weigh and accurately track everything.

Then reassess. People far over estimate the worry about "starvation" mode for the body. People on glps are commonly in 1000-1500 calorie deficit losing 2-3lb per week, straight line weight loss. Adaptation happens but it is actually in the margins beyond related to the adaptation of a smaller body needing less calories.

 

[wildweasel]

If you are at a stall and countng calories consistently for a few weeks that is your TDEE for your actual activity level/exercise/etc. The error on TDEE calculators are more than typical calorie deficits. They are garbage. Another issue is that people have consistently shown an inability to count actual calories - meaning their eye is a poor judge. Actually measure/weigh and accurately track everything.

Then reassess. People far over estimate the worry about "starvation" mode for the body. People on glps are commonly in 1000-1500 calorie deficit losing 2-3lb per week, straight line weight loss. Adaptation happens but it is actually in the margins beyond related to the adaptation of a smaller body needing less calories.

Bingo

Literally this post

 

[wildweasel]

Yes. Sorry, I just love data, but here's like the last month, where I spend 3+ weeks at approximately 212. I kept eating the same 1200 odd calories. That was this month, but as of this am, 201. Just keep on keeping on, don't overthink or change a bunch of things, keep your calories where they need to be and it will come off.

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I’m very data driven like you are. I keep all my data in a dedicated spreadsheet that would probably make you think I’m autistic or ocd or something.

Daily logs of supplements/enhzncers/peptides, rhr, blood pressure, bfa scale measurements, daily calorie intake, weekly body tape measurements around all muscle groups…

Then I have additional sheets that smooth daily calorie and scale data over a rolling 5 day window and show me weekly momentum averages using the smoothed measurements so that I can correlate average weekly calorie intake to average weekly weight/fat/muscle gain.

tbh I’ve been able to recomp effortlessly with data like this, got down to 10-11%bf and have gained 15lbs in muscle since without any fat or glp1