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I just pinned first Mots-C dose 5mg, intense isr within seconds, welt forming all red..anyone else have this reaction?

I put on bendryl cream and a cold pack.. its all gone now an hour later. .but ouch, wasn't expecting that. Maybe its the adrenaline but I'm awake now and very alert.
 
latviantower said:
That sucks. I’m still pinning 5 mg three times a week. Zero ISR.
Thanks. Out of curiosity where do you pin it?

This is the vial that I blew the filter on, and I only have one filter left, so I didn't bother refiltering. Im thinking I will now..
 
desinr-gal said:
I just pinned first Mots-C dose 5mg, intense isr within seconds, welt forming all red..anyone else have this reaction?

I put on bendryl cream and a cold pack.. it’s all gone now an hour later. .but ouch, wasn't expecting that. Maybe it’s the adrenaline but I'm awake now and very alert.
Yeah I get an isr too. Just a red itchy patch but it lasts while. Few days
 
desinr-gal said:
I just pinned first Mots-C dose 5mg, intense isr within seconds, welt forming all red..anyone else have this reaction?

I put on bendryl cream and a cold pack.. its all gone now an hour later. .but ouch, wasn't expecting that. Maybe its the adrenaline but I'm awake now and very alert.
Most people do seem to feel some discomfort from it. I’m currently running 5mg 3x a week. I feel a little discomfort with it but not always.
 
LostWolf said:
Most people do seem to feel some discomfort from it. I’m currently running 5mg 3x a week. I feel a little discomfort with it but not always.
Can't you add a little extra BAC before you load up the syringe to dilute the dose a bit?
 
LostWolf said:
Most people do seem to feel some discomfort from it. I’m currently running 5mg 3x a week. I feel a little discomfort with it but not always.
Thank you. I was just worried there was something wrong with mine, so this is reassuring
 
PAPoots said:
Can't you add a little extra BAC before you load up the syringe to dilute the dose a bit?
Yes, good idea. I saw very different protocals for bac amount. I went with .5 ml, I may try adding some extra in first next time.
 
PAPoots said:
Can't you add a little extra BAC before you load up the syringe to dilute the dose a bit?
I suppose you could. I do that with my GHK-CU.
 
LostWolf said:
I suppose you could. I do that with my GHK-CU.
I'd like to ask you a tangential question question about GHK-cu. After reading on this forum, reddit and elsewhere, I've been adding 50-60 units bac water to my syringe then adding the 5mg of GHK-cu. I tried going down to 30mg of the extra bac water one day and got the bruising and soreness I've read so much about. But my question is, sometimes when I draw up the reconstituted GHK-cu into the syringe (that has been mixed and sitting in the fridge for almost a week now), it pulls in a blue-purple blob that often won't mix or only kind of mixes with the extra bac water. I've read endlessly about being gentle with the peptides, but sometimes giving the syringe a flick and a shake disperses the blob. But today, I drew it up and that blob stayed a blob-- like a tiny lava lamp. And I do have some soreness from where I pinned it (having added an extra 50 units of bac water to the syringe). Is this 'blob' phenomenon typical? Should I add ascorbic acid to the vial? Any tips or tricks would be appreciated by anyone in the know. Thanks.
 
timj382 said:
I'd like to ask you a tangential question question about GHK-cu. After reading on this forum, reddit and elsewhere, I've been adding 50-60 units bac water to my syringe then adding the 5mg of GHK-cu. I tried going down to 30mg of the extra bac water one day and got the bruising and soreness I've read so much about. But my question is, sometimes when I draw up the reconstituted GHK-cu into the syringe (that has been mixed and sitting in the fridge for almost a week now), it pulls in a blue-purple blob that often won't mix or only kind of mixes with the extra bac water. I've read endlessly about being gentle with the peptides, but sometimes giving the syringe a flick and a shake disperses the blob. But today, I drew it up and that blob stayed a blob-- like a tiny lava lamp. And I do have some soreness from where I pinned it (having added an extra 50 units of bac water to the syringe). Is this 'blob' phenomenon typical? Should I add ascorbic acid to the vial? Any tips or tricks would be appreciated by anyone in the know. Thanks.
AI says the peptide in this vial is breaking down and not inject it. Ugh.
 
timj382 said:
I'd like to ask you a tangential question question about GHK-cu. After reading on this forum, reddit and elsewhere, I've been adding 50-60 units bac water to my syringe then adding the 5mg of GHK-cu. I tried going down to 30mg of the extra bac water one day and got the bruising and soreness I've read so much about. But my question is, sometimes when I draw up the reconstituted GHK-cu into the syringe (that has been mixed and sitting in the fridge for almost a week now), it pulls in a blue-purple blob that often won't mix or only kind of mixes with the extra bac water. I've read endlessly about being gentle with the peptides, but sometimes giving the syringe a flick and a shake disperses the blob. But today, I drew it up and that blob stayed a blob-- like a tiny lava lamp. And I do have some soreness from where I pinned it (having added an extra 50 units of bac water to the syringe). Is this 'blob' phenomenon typical? Should I add ascorbic acid to the vial? Any tips or tricks would be appreciated by anyone in the know. Thanks.
Shake the vial to dissolve the ghk. You aren't going to hurt it. The peptides we deal with are not that fragile.
 
zpped said:
Shake the vial to dissolve the ghk. You aren't going to hurt it. The peptides we deal with are not that fragile.
Really appreciate that. Are you sure? Asked a couple AI models and they say the congealing blobs mean the peptide is damaged and I shouldn't inject it. I want your answer to be right. Just don't want to fuck myself up. Are we allowed to say fuck here? Thanks again for answering, either way.
 
timj382 said:
Really appreciate that. Are you sure? Asked a couple AI models and they say the congealing blobs mean the peptide is damaged and I shouldn't inject it. I want your answer to be right. Just don't want to fuck myself up. Are we allowed to say fuck here? Thanks again for answering, either way.
Bro
 
timj382 said:
Really appreciate that. Are you sure? Asked a couple AI models and they say the congealing blobs mean the peptide is damaged and I shouldn't inject it. I want your answer to be right. Just don't want to fuck myself up. Are we allowed to say fuck here? Thanks again for answering, either way.
AI only repeats what other idiots are saying.

Am I sure? Yes. Are you sure I know what I'm talking about? I haven't given you any proof.

I will promise you're absolutely not going to fuck yourself up by shaking it. I'll pinky promise on it.
 
timj382 said:
Really appreciate that. Are you sure? Asked a couple AI models and they say the congealing blobs mean the peptide is damaged and I shouldn't inject it. I want your answer to be right. Just don't want to fuck myself up. Are we allowed to say fuck here? Thanks again for answering, either way.
Maybe this is a good time to point out that you are about to inject a substance from a vial, that came from overseas somewhere, from people you do not know.. there is no guarantee that what's inside wont hurt you.

You may have a massive allergic reaction to it. try a tiny quantity first, to see.

As far as shaking it up, that's the least of your worries.. The heads of testing labs, who do this all day, have said shaking doesn't affect anything.
 
PAPoots said:
I feel like I am misreading the doses required for SS-31. Have you found kits with vials greater than 10mg in the grey?

I’m currently using a 25mg kit that tested at 37. I’ve seen that at a couple places, and I see one of the current popular vendors has 50mg kits (for $300).

All of the clinical trials were done with much higher doses (30-70mg per dose) so I’m trying to come a little closer to those doses… currently at 18mg EOD (two doses per vial).
 
Dang. That is a bit more than what my protocol is.

09/24/2025 - AM 5mg dose, 25ml

09/23/2025 - 4mg dose, .20ml/20 units

09/23/2025 - I reconstituted the 50mg bottle with 2.5ml of bac.

Did you titrate up to 18mg because you didn't feel results until you got that number? And that is once a day at night right. Based on what I've read you take it in the morning for mitochondria repair, in the evening for nootropic reasons. Like better brain health
 
PAPoots said:
Dang. That is a bit more than what my protocol is.

09/24/2025 - AM 5mg dose, 25ml

09/23/2025 - 4mg dose, .20ml/20 units

09/23/2025 - I reconstituted the 50mg bottle with 2.5ml of bac.

Did you titrate up to 18mg because you didn't feel results until you got that number? And that is once a day at night right. Based on what I've read you take it in the morning for mitochondria repair, in the evening for nootropic reasons. Like better brain health
It was my plan from the get go. All of the clinical trials are with much higher doses. For example see here: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41436-020-01006-8 And here: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5890606/

I’m going for mitochondrial repair and I wanted to get as high as possible but still be able to administer a reasonable number of doses. I settled on 18mg since it was half of my vial size. I thought about doing a couple at 36 but then I started doing the math on how much $ per dose and I balked. So I’ll do five vials, ten doses EOD at 18mg, then drop to 4.5mg daily for the last three vials (12 doses). I’ll start in on mots when I finish the ten doses of 18mg.

All dosing is in the morning. I’ve had a lot of energy at the lower doses, not sure if it’s coincidence.
 
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