birdwhacker said:
Let's first put aside the misinformation where third worlders get unreasonably bad scores – these tests often have cultural context or are based on English language comprehension, so there's a level of complexity to testing certain populations that was frequently ignored prior to the 2000's.
Errr... yeah, you see... Third-worlder here.. In Mensa and Triple Nine.
IQ tests, the high quality ones at least, are designed to test pattern recognition abilities, spatial visual analysis skills, active memory recall, and verbal aptitude. That said, it tests for accuracy, but also speed of processing.
However, having the competency to do something does NOT mean they are competent in doing it. It's like having the spare parts and prerequisite machine tools do not guarantee a running engine.
It's best summarized as Intelligence=ability to process information
Intelligence+Knowledge=Wisdom;
Wisdom+Discipline/Temperance+Diligence=prudence.
There's a reason why the Greeks included Temperance and prudence among the 4 Greatest Virtues, and not Wisdom.
About socialization ability, now that's an irrelevant metric imho. I can indulge in banter, chat with folks, make jokes, but I'm a hardcore introvert. I despise, hate, abhor, loathe low-iq denizens. phew...Woosah!!!! Ok, I'm fine now. So where were we...ah yes,
["It also only works for English speakers."]
Well, yes, verbal aptitude testing requires a common language first. There are IQ tests designed in other languages.
["One of whom used to huff gasoline, and is often wrongly perceived as "a little slow" because of his social capabilities"]
As I mentioned before, intelligence does NOT imply a strong sense of self or Willpower.
["another woman who is frequently captivated by political misinformation, fake news, MLMs, and doesn't seem to understand many types of reasoning."]
Of course, rhetoric-the use of linguistic tools to persuade people-is over three thousand years old, because high information-processing ability does not render one immune to emotional manipulation.
["Not two people you would pick out for being the smartest in the room. Not two people that don't make mistakes."]
Alright, smartest is synonymous with wisest, which comes from wisdom, not intelligence. And when I was younger, I had an IQ of a hundred and seventy-four, which went down to 160 due to diabetic encephalopathy. And I make tons of mistakes, maybe not as many as some, but still way more than many. Intelligence is not armor against mistakes. In fact, I am of the opinion that it could lead to making more mistakes simply because they are willing to tread where many refuse to follow.
And I agree, personality and IQ testing are fabulous topics. I am an INTJ-A Mastermind on the Myers-Briggs Scale, and on the Big 5 test well, that's another story,
and finally, and most importantly,
I hope you appreciate the effort it took me to copy-and-paste info from the other thread here to provide a coherent, eloquent, pristine, AI-free response.