Yeah nice dream. Maybe a select group, just like with any diet a select group will make lifestyle changes and keep their weight off forever. But look at the statistics for that. Not at all good, 80-95% of people gain the weight back and then some. I have eaten "real food" that I cooked myself and exercised my whole life and I was still fat. I already had a good lifestyle, what should have given me, so the story goes, a perfect weight using the calories in, calories out model, didn't. I've been chasing it for 40 years. This med somehow gives me the edge that I never had before. I'm not eating that much less than I was before, maybe the slowdown of the stomach emptying, and therefore keeping glucose regulated and insulin controlled, I don't know, but it works.50ShadesGreyMarket said:
This is really the crux of it and applies to virtually every chronic health condition (or anything in life, really): you can do everything 'right' and still have the issue. There's a very, very popular idea that if we only change this, or fix that, or become more disciplined or just .. figure something out we'll be able to solve once and for all whatever the problem was.Nailedit said:
mlke6 said:
It’s not an attitude. If someone maintains disregulated blood pressure then they should continue to take medication. If their lifestyle habits and diet are able to get them to a place where their doctor thinks it a good idea to try stepping down to go their medication then I think it should be up to the patient and doctor. I had medical issues that required surgery in 2022 and my endocrinology team stepped me off of the medication I was on as it was no longer needed.mlke6 said:
50ShadesGreyMarket said:
I didn’t “attack” anything. If you want to be on any peptides the rest of your life then do so. If someone else doesn’t want to stay on them until they die then I think that is their prerogative. I work in biosciences and have seen plenty of adults make their own decisions. If you believe that you can’t live without something then that is true, but only for you. Not everyone has to live by your standards, that was the point I was making.keangkong said:
That’s why my original comment started with me posing a question. I later used the example of someone who can successfully change their lifestyle habits. I didn’t say “everyone should stop taking peptides”, I was very clear in the way I approached the subject. I’ve seen ‘My 600 lb Life’, I’m well aware there is a huge segment of our population that is full-blown addicted to gravy and fried foods and if they can’t have it they’ll become violent. My comment was in regards to those who use their time losing weight to make radical changes.Summer48 said:
I have yet to see anyone claiming that we all MUST stay on GLP1s for life. What I have seen is some people saying that they are planning on it for themselves. I am in that group. We have accepted that it is what WE probably need. Sure inactivity and poor eating habits have played its part ... but there are many other causes of obesity and for most of us we are dealing with MULTIPLE causes.50ShadesGreyMarket said:
If you read my original comment and the reply that implied I was saying something I wasn’t it puts it in context. I think each person has their own journey with peptides, for some that will be lifelong but for others, I don’t think that has to be the case. I posed that scenario in my first response to the thread. I never said anybody should or shouldn’t do anything. I was the one pushing back against the “must be on forever” narrative. I think it’s up to the individual.MsGizmo said:
One thing that I've noticed over the years is that people without an illness are often the one most critical of those who have one. Thin people complain the loudest about GLP1 drugs while at the same time criticize us for being fat in the first place.4StrandKnot said:
