Are hydrapeaks with these silicone inserts a big waste of space?

[Grogu]

Quick question about long-term storage. I've been buying these stupid inserts for my vials and have been putting these into Hyrdapeaks and then it dawned on me that there are really a lot of plastic taking up a lot of room, that if I just put the vials (standing up) in layers, that I could probably fit double in the container. When using these, you can fit 48 vials in a 32oz hydrapeak. But without these liners, I would think you can get double that amount. I'm up to 4 hyrdapeaks in the freezer with 60 inbound vials, so what am I going to do? Get another two hydrapeaks?

I see that these would "cushion" the vials if I accidentially dropped the container, but really? For something that is going to sit a the bottom of my freezer for years and years? I can see that this makes getting access to vials easier, so maybe I would keep one of them with the inserts. But maybe for long term storage, say 100 vials, maybe just carefully put them in a hydrapeak without all this silicone?

Also, since the hydrapeak is air tight, I don't need those silica packets, right?

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[woundcarping]

I think @Calm Logic has posted about loose vials/capacity before.

 

[Grogu]

I think @Calm Logic has posted about loose vials/capacity before.

What did they say? Loose vials okay?

 

[woundcarping]

What did they say? Loose vials okay?

You’re not doing yo hurt anything unless you drop them.

I think they posted the vial count they got without inserts.

 

[Calm Logic]

Yes, I do both.

With the HydraPeak, I use the inserts. But a peptide friend with a ton of vials was using loose just fine.

For some of my Thermos jars that are too small to hold a kit container, I do loose. I am just more careful with them. I should pack them with something, esp. until they are more full.

 

[Grogu]

Yes, I do both.

Thank you! How many can you fit without the inserts? Is it like double as I was thinking?

 

[Calm Logic]

Thank you! How many can you fit without the inserts? Is it like double as I was thinking?

A crazy amount, it seems. Paging @chmuse.

A few people and mostly AI talk about possible microfractures in the glass if not careful (when talking about dropped vials). But I've never seen anyone have any issues in that regard.

 

[Grogu]

A crazy amount, it seems. Paging @chmuse .

A few people and mostly AI talk about possible microfractures in the glass if not careful. But I've never seen anyone have any issues in that regard.

One time I had a bunch of Zepbound vials that I had consolidated in one box in my fridge and when I took out the box all of the contents spilled out all over the kitchen floor (ceramic tile), and all was fine except one did fracture. It was vials flying through the air. Would have been comical if the vials weren't so expensive.

 

[tubby]

The desiccant only matters to the extent that it protects the contents of the vials from moisture. If the vials are properly sealed, you don't need them. If your thermos container doesn't let moisture enter then you don't need them.

The reason people use them is as a mitigation strategy in the event it turns out that both of those assumptions end up being unfounded with some of the vials.

 

[Calm Logic]

Besides microfractures, we can ruminate about other issues as well, like labels coming off, lol.

When opening the jars (which isn't the smoothest thing in the world), I do feel a lot better with the inserts. And it's so much tidier and easier to retreive stuff (especially if you put labels/stickers on the vial caps too).

So if it's just twice the storage capacity (or even 3x), I would just buy more storage.

 

[Rickcaps]

Yes, I do both.

With the HydraPeak, I use the inserts. But a peptide friend with a ton of vials was using loose just fine.

For some of my Thermos jars that are too small to hold a kit container, I do loose. I am just more careful with them. I should pack them with something, esp. until they are more full.

Maybe put the flask inside a ziploc bag and then store it? Recently I saw my friend vaccum sealing his steak cuts and I think thats not a bad idea either, perhaps vaccum seal the long storage hydrpeaks ? Zero moisture!

 

[Grogu]

I would put the flask inside a ziploc bag and then store it. Recently I saw my friend vaccum sealing his steak cuts and I think thats not a bad idea either, perhaps vaccum seal the long storage hydrpeaks ? Zero moisture!

I was just doing some research and it appears that hydrapeaks are water tight (so soup won't spill out) but aren't necessarily "air tight", so I think that a couple of desicant packs wouldn't hurt and I really like this idea of puting them in a zip lock bag for the longterm storage ones.

 

[Grogu]

Besides microfractures, we can ruminate about other issues as well, like labels coming off, lol.

When opening the jars (which isn't the smoothest thing in the world), I do feel a lot better with the inserts. And it's so much tidier and easier to retreive stuff (especially if you put labels/stickers on the vial caps too).

So if it's just twice the storage capacity (or even 3x), I would just buy more storage.

The organization and retrieval aspect of the liners resonate the most with me. I do like organizing things and putting a bunch of vials all loose in a container is kind of already giving me a little stress. I already have the supplies for my next order, so it's nothing pressing, but I do feel that I need to find a better solution eventually. Or else, I'm going to have a freezer filled with nothing but hydrapeaks .

 

[Notafed]

Quick question about long-term storage. I've been buying these stupid inserts for my vials and have been putting these into Hyrdapeaks and then it dawned on me that there are really a lot of plastic taking up a lot of room, that if I just put the vials (standing up) in layers, that I could probably fit double in the container. When using these, you can fit 48 vials in a 32oz hydrapeak. But without these liners, I would think you can get double that amount. I'm up to 4 hyrdapeaks in the freezer with 60 inbound vials, so what am I going to do? Get another two hydrapeaks?

I see that these would "cushion" the vials if I accidentially dropped the container, but really? For something that is going to sit a the bottom of my freezer for years and years? I can see that this makes getting access to vials easier, so maybe I would keep one of them with the inserts. But maybe for long term storage, say 100 vials, maybe just carefully put them in a hydrapeak without all this silicone?

Also, since the hydrapeak is air tight, I don't need those silica packets, right?

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Tldr I use the hydrapeaks as well and if you get a 3d printer one day they now make an insert that bumps up one hydrapeak 32 food jar to 64 slots. I am sure someone if they haven't already will start selling this layout it's what I use for my storage.

https://makerworld.com/models/2243285?appSharePlatform=copy

Sorry I put 68 originally actual number 64.

Also airtight is relative and you got to think about the moisture that was in the air when you originally closed it. Just get or print some of these fill with descant, and add them for the piece of mind. Or just throw a bag on top, but I wouldn't skip descant.

https://makerworld.com/en/models/1378681-3ml-vial-sized-desiccant-jar-v2#profileId-1426649

 

[Grogu]

Tldr I use the hydrapeaks as well and if you get a 3d printer one day they now make an insert that bumps up one hydrapeak 32 food jar to 64 slots. I am sure someone if they haven't already will start selling this layout it's what I use for my storage.

https://makerworld.com/models/2243285?appSharePlatform=copy

Sorry I put 68 originally actual number 64.

Thank so much! I think that 64 would be great compared to 48 and would still allow for some organization and protection while maximizing storage, especially for the long-term things. I just ordered some desiccant packs to throw in there meantime.

 

[randompersonrandom]

I keep 30 vials just as you described, standing up and packed in layers, dessicant packs on top, in a 13.5 oz hydrapeak-like thermos. No liners. When possible, I do three kits of the same thing and label the outside, the inside, and tuck a COA in there. When not possible, I just don't mix two kits with the same cap color and label the outside, the inside, and tuck a COA in there.

 

[K2UGA]

I use a cheap kitchen vacuum sealer with small food bags, then the storing vessel doesn't matter as much.

 

[zebit0]

Tldr I use the hydrapeaks as well and if you get a 3d printer one day they now make an insert that bumps up one hydrapeak 32 food jar to 64 slots.

Thanks for the 3d printer link, that’s GREAT! I think my last print only allowed 56

 

[BNLFL]

I'm just using that Amazon 63 vial holder and a 3D printed 50 vial holder with 3 desiccant packs in each. I also have a 4 vial 3D in the kitchen fridge with one desiccant. That's the one I'm currently pinning from.

 

[Grogu]

m sure someone if they haven't already will start selling this layout it's what I use for my storage.

https://makerworld.com/models/2243285?appSharePlatform=copy

Sorry I put 68 originally actual number 64.

Okay, so I couldn't find the 64 vial holder already made (I don't have a 3D printer) and have some inbound kits, but I found some on Etsy that hold 60. That's 12 more than the 48, so I think that's a happy compromise.

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