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chitowngal said:
Also curious to hear where you've been seeing others mention burning?
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ennui.kitty13 said:
I’ve had someone report burning today
Where was that reported ennui? Please provide a link to it.
 
If any of you have the chance to ask any of the people who mention burning, could you ask them if it reconstituted ok or if it might have been cloudy or there were visible particles that didn't dissolve?
 
ZippityDooDah said:
如果你们有机会询问那些提到燃烧的人,能否问问他们燃烧后是否恢复正常,或者是否出现浑浊或可见未溶解的颗粒?
Zip,你说的都很有道理。

“有人报告说发生了火灾”这种说法,恕我直言,没有任何实际意义。
 
dionysos said:
Zip,你说的都很有道理。

“有人报告说发生了火灾”这种说法,恕我直言,没有任何实际意义。
是也不是。当特定供应商的产品导致多人发生ISR(内部系统故障)或烧伤时,可以得出一些合理的结论,而且在某些情况下,这种情况几乎是可以预测的。
 
ZippityDooDah said:
是也不是。当特定供应商的产品导致多人发生ISR(内部系统故障)或烧伤时,可以得出一些合理的结论,而且在某些情况下,这种情况几乎是可以预测的。
我猜我的反应有点像记者:未经授权且没有任何细节的引语总是令人怀疑。

在我看来,它与其说是传递信息,不如说是让人对发帖人产生怀疑。

不过,鉴于您的职位优势和过往经历,您无疑比我更能判断发帖人和相关公司。
 
ZippityDooDah said:
如果你们有机会询问那些提到燃烧的人,能否问问他们燃烧后是否恢复正常,或者是否出现浑浊或可见未溶解的颗粒?
产品很清澈,我朋友和她妹妹都觉得冲泡效果很好🤷🏼‍♀️
 
ennui.kitty13 said:
产品很清澈,我朋友和她妹妹都觉得冲泡效果很好🤷🏼‍♀️
他们各自使用了不同订单的独立小瓶装琼脂。两人也分别使用各自的抑菌水进行复溶。唯一的共同点是品牌都是Amo。
 
再问一个问题,Ennui,引起灼烧感的肽是什么?
 
ZippityDooDah said:
是也不是。当特定供应商的产品导致多人发生ISR(内部系统故障)或烧伤时,可以得出一些合理的结论,而且在某些情况下,这种情况几乎是可以预测的。
我初步查阅了一些关于注射后疼痛(PIP)原因的资料。PIP

的原因因药物类型而异,例如类固醇、肽类药物和其他药物。

对于肽类药物, 一个 可能的 原因是药物的 pH 值与人体 pH 值略有差异。药物的

pH 值通常在生产过程中进行化学调节以使其正常化——即所谓的“缓冲”。如果

药物没有进行缓冲,或者缓冲不准确,就会在注射时产生“灼烧感”。

随着注射液在体内扩散和稀释,这种感觉应该会迅速消失。

虽然这种感觉并不理想,但我目前读到的资料都表明 PIP 不会造成严重或持久的伤害。

注:这个问题值得花更多时间研究,但我目前无法投入这么多时间。如果

您对此有更深入的了解,或者有更多时间进行研究,我很乐意听听您的意见。

丹尼斯

编辑:将 “可能的原因 是”改为“ 一个可能的原因是”。
因为我没有足够的能力就此问题发表明确声明,这一点必须让大家都知道。抱歉!
 
I found some content. And I hope it can help you.

🥦The burning sensation when injecting peptide products can be caused by several things. First, certain peptide products can cause an inflammatory response in local tissues during injection, and this inflammatory response may lead to a burning sensation. For example, after an exosome cosmetic injection, a patient experienced moderate pain and a burning sensation that persisted even after the needle was removed.

Second, the use of organic solvents may also be a cause of burning sensations. When organic solvents are rapidly released into the tissues, they may irritate the nerve endings, which can cause a burning sensation. This is more common in long-acting drug delivery formulations, which require injection to achieve rapid drug release.

In addition, activation of the TRPV1 pathway, a heat-sensitive receptor that activates sensory nerve endings and causes burning and itching sensations, may also be an important mechanism for causing burning sensations. When peptide products are injected into the subcutaneous tissue, they may directly or indirectly activate TRPV1, which can cause burning sensations.

In summary, the burning sensation when injecting peptide products may be due to a combination of local inflammatory reactions, the use of organic solvents, and the activation of the TRPV1 pathway.

🥥The specific mechanisms by which peptides induce localized inflammatory responses involve the following:

1.Immunomodulation: Peptides work by regulating cytokines and signaling pathways in the immune system. For example, the antimicrobial peptide LL37 modulates the immune response and influences the onset and progression of skin diseases. In addition, host defense peptides also show immunomodulatory functions, including anti-inflammation and cell chemotaxis.

2.Inhibition of Inflammation-Related Factors: Certain peptide products are able to directly inhibit key factors associated with inflammation. For example, blue copper peptides can inhibit inflammatory responses by decreasing levels of acute inflammatory cytokines.

3.Regulation of Nuclear Transcription Factors: Peptides may also affect the inflammatory response by regulating the expression of nuclear transcription factor κb (NF-κb), an important regulator of inflammation and immune response, whose increased activity often leads to an increased inflammatory response.

4.Promoting angiogenesis and repairing damage: Some peptides have the ability to promote angiogenesis and repair damage, which also helps to reduce the inflammatory state. For example, host defense peptides not only have anti-inflammatory activity, but also promote angiogenesis and repair of damage.

5.Interference with signaling pathways: Peptides may exert anti-inflammatory effects by interfering with signaling pathways associated with the expression of inflammatory cytokines. For example, anti-inflammatory peptides may interfere with signal transduction involved in the expression of inflammatory cytokines.

🍅The TRPV1 pathway plays an important role in the burning sensation induced by peptide products, and its activation mechanism involves multiple factors and signaling pathways.

TRPV1 is a heat-activated cation channel that can be activated by substances such as capsaicin, which triggers burning and pain sensations. Capsaicin is a specific agonist of TRPV1, and when it binds to TRPV1, it causes the channel to open, allowing calcium ions to enter the neuron, which in turn triggers the burning and pain sensations.

In addition, TRPV1 activation is modulated by inflammatory factors. For example, upregulation of COX2 enhances TRPV1 sensitization, which increases TRPV1 activation over a short period of time (approximately 30 minutes). This feed-forward sensitization mechanism may play a role in chronic pain and inflammatory diseases.

dionysos said:
I've done some preliminary searching and reading about the causes of Post Injection-site Pain (PIP).

Causes of PIP vary by medication type ie steroids vs peptides vs others.

With peptides the likely cause appears to be a small variation of the med's ph from our body's ph.

The medication ph is usually chemically adjusted during the manufacturing process to normalize it - "buffering" so called.

Not buffering the meds, or not buffering accurately, yields a "burning" sensation at the time of injection.

This should diminish rapidly as the injected solution spreads and is diluted in our bodies.

While not desireable, nothing I have yet read suggests that PIP causes serious or lasting harm.

NOTE: this subject deserves more time than I can give it right now.

I'd enjoy hearing from those of you who have more insight, or more time to research it.

Dennis
 
If you want to minimize such a burning sensation, I retrieved some methods.

Adjust the injection speed, change to a low irritation product, pay attention to the temperature of the injection environment, apply appropriate localized cold compresses before injection, make sure the injection site is clean and correct, choose an area with a thicker layer of fat for injection, avoid injecting at the same time with other medications, etc.

These may help you.

Please understand that I can not give a precise answer. Everyone is different. Personally, I think they are worth consulting a professional who can then practice them judiciously.:)
 
Burning tirz is an interesting one. I have a Zepbound script so I mix and match brand name and research peptides depending on how I want to dose. Zepbound always burned if I injected it cold. Even taking it out and letting it come to room temp for a day before injection, it'll still burn and sting on some injections while I feel nothing for others. Doing my own injections of room temp XCE tirz reconstituted with Hospira bac water has so far given me no burning or stinging at all, but I've only done it twice.
 
RS has had burning tirz from various vendors and typically chalked it off to my BAC water. Swapped out for a brand new bottle and no burning
 
Dgenzo said:
RS has had burning tirz from various vendors and typically chalked it off to my BAC water. Swapped out for a brand new bottle and no burning
Good detective work Dgenzo!

Was the BAC Water old or exposed to heat? Suspicious for some other reason?
 
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