What is the strongest concentration that is ok for a vial of Tirzepatide?

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IshimaruKenta said:
This one will say if it's not safe to use. For example

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Yeah the Fat Scientist App was like "mrrp mrrp Danger Danger… the normal concentration of Tirzepatide is 7mg/mL and 30 mg/ml. Please double-check your vial label….”

Then it pooped itself.
 
randompersonrandom said:
I've wondered that before; if there's a point at which it's syrupy from too much mannitol in too little water. Then I thought about injecting myself with mannitol syrup, got grossed out, and just went and did something else.

Edit: Well this is concerning. I punched in the NAD+ reconstitution that I've always seen, which is 3 ml in a 500mg vial, and it has super high risk all over the place.
There is a song to be made….
 
HoopFan said:
Yeah the Fat Scientist App was like "mrrp mrrp Danger Danger… the normal concentration of Tirzepatide is 7mg/mL and 30 mg/ml. Please double-check your vial label….”

Then it pooped itself.
I only mentioned this calculator because it specifically states in red if it's unsafe. Blue if it's optimal and green where it's a-ok. Wasn't trying to shove another calculator down your throat. ❤️
 
IshimaruKenta said:
I only mentioned this calculator because it specifically states in red if it's unsafe. Blue if it's optimal and green where it's a-ok. Wasn't trying to shove another calculator down your throat. ❤️
All good. I appreciate the gesture.

Now lemme post this song for @randompersonrandom ….
 
🎵 “Tracy’s Monologue (The Mannitol Syrup Song)” 🎵​[archived internal link]
A villain-style parody aligned to the original tune - “Escape (The Piña Colada Song)”

You were mixing your peptides,

Thinking everything’s pure.

All your little GLP vials—

You believed they were sure.

You were swirling Mannitol Syrup,

Feeling proud of your blend…

But you never saw me watching,

Right behind you again.

You like that Mannitol Syrup,

And your doses just right—

But I’m the queen of the grey market,

Lurking out of your sight.

So when you’re dosing your GLPs,

Thinking nothing’s amiss…

Just remember your supplier?

Baby— Tracy runs all this.

You thought you found a vendor

Who was clean, verified.

But that “welcome note” you opened?

Yeah, I wrote it with pride.

You kept boasting reconstitution—

How precise you’ve become…

But I choose how pure your batch is,

And I choose what you get done.

Yeah, you love Mannitol Syrup,

All your vials lined up neat—

But your precious little peptides

Only move when I compete.

So when you’re tapping your syringe tip,

Trying not to pull foam…

Know your whole peptide obsession?

Tracy built it—welcome home.

You ran from “grey-market Tracy,”

Thought you slipped from my chain.

But your shipping confirmation

Led me straight to your name.

You can switch to other sellers—

Try escaping my view…

But no matter where you order,

Tracy’s fingerprints are on you.

’Cause you like Mannitol Syrup,

And pretending you’re free…

But those vials in your freezer

All came straight through me .

You can whisper about “quality,”

Claim you research each part…

But Tracy’s in your reconstitution—

Right there from the start.
 
IshimaruKenta said:
I only mention it for people who aren't used to this, just starting out, etc. You're a seasoned veteran so it won't affect you. ❤️
No I get that and probably should consider it. I do the math in my head and estimate. Then I forget my calculations and how much bac I added. Started putting tape and sharpie labels on my vials.

HoopFan said:
Yeah that’s what I was asking. What was the safest concentration for someone to have once they reconstitute Tirz.

What the hell do people do with those 100mg vials that I’ve seen selling? Holy crap! lol
Pin that shit in 5 weeks jk but i do... I think you meant how little bac can you go with a higher mg vial and I don't think it matters unless it's too thick to push, causes pain, redness, irritation... for example I do glutathione intra muscular where it's made to reconstitute with 6ml of bac and get fed into an iv bag like the health and wellness spas do.... I add 3ml of bac and pin 1.5 ml every 3rd day which is pushing it cuz it burns for 20 seconds. I think as long as you add 100 or 150 iu of bac to the glp1 it's OK. Example I have 30mg sema coming and at 1ml or 100iu of bac, that's 3mg of sema every 10 units so I'll go 1.5ml or 150iu bac... now 15 iu= 3mg so I'll do 5iu to stack or 10-15 alone....
 
IshimaruKenta said:
This one will say if it's not safe to use. For example

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If u pinned the entire vial otherwise it's 6.9 mg for every 10 iu.... that would work for me at 20 or 25 iu....
 
IshimaruKenta said:
Overfill changes those calculations, so it's not going to just be 17 units. 🤷‍♂️
Since there was no mention of overfill I didn't put that into my calculations. Not every batch has a significant amount of overfill and some are even underfilled.

edited to add:

If the vial is actually 65mg than 17 units is actually 10.9mg. Not that big of a deal really. But if she wants to get as close to 10mg as possible then she should inject 15 units instead.
 
HoopFan said:
🎵 “Tracy’s Monologue (The Mannitol Syrup Song)” 🎵
A villain-style parody aligned to the original tune - “Escape (The Piña Colada Song)”

You were mixing your peptides,

Thinking everything’s pure.

All your little GLP vials—

You believed they were sure.

You were swirling Mannitol Syrup,

Feeling proud of your blend…

But you never saw me watching,

Right behind you again.

You like that Mannitol Syrup,

And your doses just right—

But I’m the queen of the grey market,

Lurking out of your sight.

So when you’re dosing your GLPs,

Thinking nothing’s amiss…

Just remember your supplier?

Baby— Tracy runs all this.

You thought you found a vendor

Who was clean, verified.

But that “welcome note” you opened?

Yeah, I wrote it with pride.

You kept boasting reconstitution—

How precise you’ve become…

But I choose how pure your batch is,

And I choose what you get done.

Yeah, you love Mannitol Syrup,

All your vials lined up neat—

But your precious little peptides

Only move when I compete.

So when you’re tapping your syringe tip,

Trying not to pull foam…

Know your whole peptide obsession?

Tracy built it—welcome home.

You ran from “grey-market Tracy,”

Thought you slipped from my chain.

But your shipping confirmation

Led me straight to your name.

You can switch to other sellers—

Try escaping my view…

But no matter where you order,

Tracy’s fingerprints are on you.

’Cause you like Mannitol Syrup,

And pretending you’re free…

But those vials in your freezer

All came straight through me .

You can whisper about “quality,”

Claim you research each part…

But Tracy’s in your reconstitution—

Right there from the start.
Think I won't do this at karaoke... everyone's like who's Tracy and mannitol....
 
MsGizmo said:
Since there was no mention of overfill I didn't put that into my calculations. Not every batch has a significant amount of overfill and some are even underfilled.
But for someone just starting out, they shouldn't assume that it's 60.00mg. Either they're going to take too big of a dose than they're expecting and possibly feel ill, or underdose and think it's not working. Most will be fine if they take a larger dose than expected, but they may be that one that gets ill and then blames gray for causing it. That's all.
 
randompersonrandom said:
I've wondered that before; if there's a point at which it's syrupy from too much mannitol in too little water. Then I thought about injecting myself with mannitol syrup, got grossed out, and just went and did something else.

Edit: Well this is concerning. I punched in the NAD+ reconstitution that I've always seen, which is 3 ml in a 500mg vial, and it has super high risk all over the place.
That's if you banged all of it 3cc.... or 3 full diabetic syringes.
 
HoopFan said:
That tone absolutely and 100% fit your cat’s expression on profile photo! 🤣 🤣
He's my cat's cat. I got him because my actual cat needs to cuddle for hours and hours a day or he's a wreck, so I got him his own cat so I could have personal space. This was one of the rare moments where my cat's cat was NOT being petted and loved, and OH the displeasure!
 
Airborne Daddy said:
If u pinned the entire vial otherwise it's 6.9 mg for every 10 iu.... that would work for me at 20 or 25 iu....
My T60 vials from JY tested at 69.32mg (might be off on the mcg), so there's plenty even at 15mg dose.
 
I thought I wouldn’t like injecting a large number of units, but with the guesswork involved in averaging what we think is the pep content of a vial, I’d prefer to have more BAC (lower concentration) and more units so that being unit or two off poses a significantly less difference in mg than when using less BAC/higher concentration/fewer units.

I’m also using 40-ish units, which I thought would bother me, but it doesn’t at all.
 
HoopFan said:
If you saw my list of calculators I have bookmarked. lol I use them religiously.

Those weren’t answering the safety question about the actual concentration tho.
Ah. Concentration shouldn't make any difference to safety. I mean in the hospital they will inject medicine into an IV bag. We are just using less water.
 
MsGizmo said:
Ah. Concentration shouldn't make any difference to safety. I mean in the hospital they will inject medicine into an IV bag. We are just using less water.
Ever heard of Red Man's Syndrome? That's what happens when they slam Vancomycin too quickly into a patient.

They had to dial it back for me to a lighter concentration - my face turned into a giant swollen tomato.

I may have her add a little more BAC to her vial.
 
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