DNP = Do Not Partake
What do you guys think about DNP?
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One of the many reasons it is considered to be an exceptionally dangerous drug, is that it has a low therapeutic index , in that the difference between an effective dose and a lethal dose is small. This makes accidental overdoses with hyperthermia, renal failure and brain damage that are effectively untreatable significantly more likely and why it has caused so many deaths. You are also trusting your life on the dosing accuracy of an unlicensened pill manufacturer, and pill dosing from china is fairly notoriously inaccurate. Dosing accuracy and consistency takes experience and good equipment to get the fillers and active ingredients mixed homogenously, rather than bunched up so one pill is different to another. One pill with double the labelled dose might be all it takes to tip over the edge into hyperthermia, due to that low therapeutic index.
I am not a huge fan of a lot of the less tested peptides , but the worst of them , even the ones with zero human testing are likely safer than DNP.
For fat loss combining reta, trt, hgh, cagrilintide together is fairly likely to work for even the most extreme obesity, not that I am recommending doing that or saying it is safe, but it is almost certainly safer than DNP at any dose.
Even bam 15 is likely to be a safer option than DNP, at least it did not kill the rats they tested it on.
I am not a huge fan of a lot of the less tested peptides , but the worst of them , even the ones with zero human testing are likely safer than DNP.
For fat loss combining reta, trt, hgh, cagrilintide together is fairly likely to work for even the most extreme obesity, not that I am recommending doing that or saying it is safe, but it is almost certainly safer than DNP at any dose.
Even bam 15 is likely to be a safer option than DNP, at least it did not kill the rats they tested it on.
Man, everything you just typed is true. Now let me disagree with you.lessthanhalf said:
Yes, I am having a hard time thinking of a PED stack that is more dangerous than DNP. You really need to know what you're doing. For harm reduction purposes only, I provide the following tips:
DNP is flammable. Test your DNP by lighting it on fire and comparing it to a YouTube video of the same, make sure it burns right.
Also, weigh it. Buy a mg scale, calibrate it, learn to use it because it will save your life. DOSE YOUR OWN CAPSULES but only if you are competent. Incompetent people should not use DNP ever.
So yes DNP is dangerous, but damn does it work SO WELL. It cooks off fat faster than any other compound, it is the nuclear option.
Yes, I've used it, but only to experiment. I personally choose not to use DNP because it hurts gym performance. I care more about hitting my sets/reps than accelerating fat loss. Also the sweat is disgusting. I do not want people to see the side effects of any drug I'm taking.
Blasting reta and hgh is WAY WAY better for you in the long term. 99% of people who want to use DNP want it for the wrong reasons. The ONLY legit use case I see for DNP is a professional bodybuilder who needs to hit weight in less than a week due to unforseen events or an emergency and EVEN THEN as a last resort.
It reminds me, what ever happened to Bam15? When I first read about it last summer, it seemed to have a lot of buzz and I got excited about it and paid an exorbitant amount for a few pills. I was a noob at the time and everything was exciting to me and was running like 6 different peps at the same time, so I'm not sure it made any difference. Anyway, the buzz seems to have died down and I don't see it mentioned much anymore. Any new info that I'm missing?
makes some sense if you're planning on working in the arctic for a bit. otherwise i'd think noKalinser said:Planning to run 200mg for a week then
400mg-600mg
what would you say about it, any experience with it?
That was probably promoted by Scammer Williams...I mean, Hunter Williams. Make sure to use his discount code guys!grizpat said:
Like others have said, I would not touch it. The therapeutic window is very narrow. There isnt a large safety gap between therapeutic doses and doses that can give you permanent damage. All for what? Peptides can get you there with a much larger safety window.
Just don’t.
Just don’t.
By Jove, I think you're right. I was listening to his podcast a lot when I first started. Curses! Jokes on him though, because I never used his code. I went grey market instead (still overpriced though). Ha, take that, scammer!Mr. Blonde said:
I think the funniest thing about Williams is that he claims to try all the peptides himself. There's no way he's on 20 different peps at the same time and still be able to isolate the effects of each one like he claims.
Haha, agreed. I listened to him once when I first found grey market. It only took one time to realize that this dude was a grifter. There are so many of these dudes. I think it's good that people are introduced to them that way they understand the scam and the scammers' tricks of the trade.grizpat said:
I would, and have, rather take the advice from people on this forum. It may be anecdotal experiences, but they are REAL experiences.
I mean how many times have you seen Airborne daddy, miss-sane, gr33dyoctopus, or other senior members offer their advice followed by a personalized discount code...
Looks like the guy died. He never came back.
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