What do you do with peptides you don’t want?

[john_askins]

lol yeah I’m probably too lazy to do it too but I also don’t have any peptides that I could send yet since I’m just dipping my toes in.

I didn’t think about the mail fraud aspect which could actually increase the risk. All my Silk Road experience is on the receiving end so no help there. But that was a different time and a different me

You could just put the send to and return address as the destination.

 

[john_askins]

I bought a kit of NAD+ 500 because it wasn't very expensive and adding it qualified my order for free shipping. Now that it's here and I've done more research, I don't really want to use it. I hate to just toss it but it's not like I can sell in on FaceBook. LOL

Can I ask what you found out about it that you don’t want to use it?

 

[john_askins]

No one should feel bad about throwing out MOTS-C, haha. I refuse to buy a single vial of it.

What’s wrong with MOTS-c - I seem to be missing a lot here

 

[HereKittyKitty]

Mark me a label happy friend with extras.

 

[GrandmaJ]

Can I ask what you found out about it that you don’t want to use it?

It just looks like for what I need, oral supplements would have the same effects. So, I don't see a need to inject something else when I can just take NMNH. There was a pretty compelling post in the thread for the SS31 protocol that I looked into more. [archived internal link]

 

[SolidChick]

Listen anybody wanna give up some?

 

[AcadiaPeptides]

I mix them with sugar water and feed them to the ants. I'm trying to develop a super-intelligent colony. So far no luck.

 

[Calm Logic]

What’s wrong with MOTS-c - I seem to be missing a lot here

MOTS-c is notorious for lingering ISRs -- enough to be one reason it may never go to market due to "possible inability to mitigate the prevalence and/or persistence of the injection site reactions."

And:

Some researchers believe the synthetic version of this mitochondrial peptide may be recognized by the body as a "foreign" signal or a "danger molecule" (DAMP), triggering a localized immune response.

The hard lumps (induration) users report are essentially your immune system trying to "wall off" or quarantine the "danger molecules" you just introduced.

In general, the side hip area (under the love handles) seems better (or less worse) for such "spicy" peptides for subq.

Systemic/anaphylactic reactions have occurred with MOTS-c by IM, including someone I knew who had tongue and throat swelling.

KPV is sometimes used for spicy peptides and calming for the skin compared to MOTS-c. In theory, glutathione could help too. I don't know if people have tried gluta for MOTS-c.

A comparison of different peptides for ISRs, etc:

Peptide DAMP / Danger Profile Common ISR Symptoms Systemic Risk / Note Glutathione Anti-DAMP: Calms the "alarm" by reducing oxidative stress. Sharp sting/burn during injection; dissipates rapidly. Low: Standard antioxidant; well-recognized by the body. Tirzepatide Hormonal Mimic: Not a danger signal; designed for slow release. Delayed (24h) itchy red welts in ~5-10% of users. Low/GI: Primarily gastric slowing; rare anaphylaxis. NAD+ Metabolic Alarm: High extracellular levels signal cell rupture. "Heavy" limbs, nausea, chest pressure, local flushing. Vascular: Rapid shifts in ATP can cause acute "bite." MOTS-c DAMP Mimic: Body flags it as a "mitochondrial spill." Persistent hard knots (induration) and deep, delayed itch. High Immune Flare: Significant risk for sensitive users. SS-31 Membrane Fixer: Stabilizes cardiolipin to stop DAMP leaks. Immediate itchy red "hive-like" circles at the site. Moderate: High incidence of localized histamine release. KPV The Extinguisher: Shuts down NF-kB and pro-inflammatory signals. Virtually none; actually used to treat skin inflammation. Very Low: Protects against allergies and mast cell flares.

 

[Foggy-Hollow]

Just curious if you throw them away or try to find someone to give them to? DSIP has the opposite effect for me and I am up all night. Only used 1.5 vials and I’d hate to throw it away. What do you all do with your unwanted stuff?

My singles get yeeted. Between hygiene and time degradation, I’m not going to pass risks on.

I have 8 vials of T30 pucks as it has not worked for me. I’ll probably give it one more go but I have a couple of people in mind I will offer to sell to.

If that doesn’t get rid of it all might give it all to the buyer anyway. Breaking even will be easy and it is a frenemy so I don’t mind coming out slightly ahead. (I normally don’t keep frenemies around but it’s … family. And a long story involving their alcoholism and stupidity.) so at this point: selling 7 at what I bought 10 at, and they will be very happy with the deal.

BST online is a solid option IMO.

The family member brought up fight club first otherwise I wouldn’t have considered it an option.

 

[fatty33]

I often still buy single vials.

I am too nervous to mail peptides (again), so I would be stuck with them. Like with my luck, the white powder could be misdelivered to someone in law enforcement. Then they have probable cause to search my home.

I don't know how the steroid dealers don't go insanely paranoid. But a criminal mind requires thinking you won't get caught.

This is me. I worried once when my package stated it was going to arrive late.....what if someone else got it and opened it!!! I was a little freaked. But I called the post office and they got it moving again for me.

 

[Calm Logic]

This is me. I worried once when my package stated it was going to arrive late.....what if someone else got it and opened it!!! I was a little freaked. But I called the post office and they got it moving again for me.

And I've had the post office call me before because a package from Amazon got damaged, with the contents open and the mail carrier discussing the contents with me, if I still wanted it.

 

[conzopiriani]

Just curious if you throw them away or try to find someone to give them to? DSIP has the opposite effect for me and I am up all night. Only used 1.5 vials and I’d hate to throw it away. What do you all do with your unwanted stuff?

Send them to meeee.

 

[conzopiriani]

Can we do a Christmas in July Secret Santa where we all draw names and mail somebody else our MOTS-C or PT-141 or whatever we have but don't want? Yes I know it will be a shitshow and some people will sign up for free random peps with no intention of ever sending off theirs, and it will end in accusations and excuses, but at least a lot of us will be able to get rid of the NAD+ we're simply never going to use without money ever changing hands, and the Secret Santa megathread will almost certainly be a fabulous drama

"Santa baby - just fill my mailbox with lots of vials

I don't care if nothing scored well in the Surmount trials..."

 

[randompersonrandom]

"Santa baby - just fill my mailbox with lots of vials

I don't care if nothing scored well in the Surmount trials..."

you magnificent sonofabitch!