Well, fuck peptide test

[geoguy78]

they had like a whole 300 individual 4mm .22 filters and everyone acts like there was some massive conspiracy to corner the market. I'm sure he's made 100s of dollars on them.

To me it seemed like he started selling some individual ones after a conversation a handful of people were having on discord, so that people didn't have to spend a ton of money to buy them in bulk, but what do i know.

The pep community thrives on drama...

 

[noteablequotable]

they had like a whole 300 individual 4mm .22 filters and everyone acts like there was some massive conspiracy to corner the market. I'm sure he's made 100s of dollars on them.

To me it seemed like he started selling some individual ones after a conversation a handful of people were having on discord, so that people didn't have to spend a ton of money to buy them in bulk, but what do i know.

I don't know that it's nearly as significant as some of the other stuff happening right now, but that's not quite the story. They have an exclusive contract on the 4mm so you can't buy them from the source now, and they were making promotional content about how the 4mm were superior to the 13mm because you'd lose more Peptide with the 13mm.

Again, not that bad in the grand scheme of things for Peptide drama. I think what really got people upset was the way he yelled at people who were upset about it.

 

[GLP69]

I don't know that it's nearly as significant as some of the other stuff happening right now, but that's not quite the story. They have an exclusive contract on the 4mm so you can't buy them from the source now, and they were making promotional content about how the 4mm were superior to the 13mm because you'd lose more Peptide with the 13mm.

Again, not that bad in the grand scheme of things for Peptide drama. I think what really got people upset was the way he yelled at people who were upset about it.

Well, the 4mm were already impossible to get from the beginning if I remember. I remember back and forth about the 4mm/13mm, but I don't remember him yelling at people lol. but I wasn't paying terribly close attention to be honest. I can't imagine there being a lot to gain from cornering the market on such an obscure item though. He'd have done a lot better pushing the sterility testing rather than a $1.50 item that was perceived to make it irrelevant.

 

[fetefille]

they had like a whole 300 individual 4mm .22 filters and everyone acts like there was some massive conspiracy to corner the market. I'm sure he's made 100s of dollars on them.

To me it seemed like he started selling some individual ones after a conversation a handful of people were having on discord, so that people didn't have to spend a ton of money to buy them in bulk, but what do i know.

Ahhh, got it. He has his fave filters, the 4mm Tisch and considers others generic.

I had a brief exchange with him wherein he acknowledged that different filters from different manufacturers have different “hold back” amounts. That means that my generic Cobetter 13mm don’t necessarily hold back as much as Tisch 13mm.

But maaaannn, some weird ass m-fer on Reddit could not get that through his little pea brain. He was stuck on stupid, I had to just leave him be.

 

[nccane]

He clarified what happened in his server. 2 emails. One got bcc'd. One didn't.

 

[Doxyisfoxy]

Surely they have more than 300 customers though? I say this because I’ve been checking my email compulsively all week for anything from them, waiting for some COAs and I’m a little said that I 1. Haven’t gotten results yet and 2. Didn’t get this email either apparently. Aren’t I enough? /s

 

[fetefille]

The pep community thrives on drama...

Lololol who are you telling? And it’s about to ramp right tf back up

 

[Chizikitide-1977]

they had like a whole 300 individual 4mm .22 filters and everyone acts like there was some massive conspiracy to corner the market. I'm sure he's made 100s of dollars on them.

To me it seemed like he started selling some individual ones after a conversation a handful of people were having on discord, so that people didn't have to spend a ton of money to buy them in bulk, but what do i know.

Nope!

He has an exclusive contract with Tisch scientific to sell 4mm filters. No one else is legally allowed to sell them. This was proven on Peppys, receipts were shown. The thread isn't hard to find.

And 4mm filters are damn near impossible to find. A few months ago, I started the thread below:

[archived internal link]

Syringe Filter Recommendations

Sep 5, 2024

Do folks have recommendations on where to buy syringe filters? I’m looking for sterile filters so .22 um or less.

I’ve noticed a lot of people don’t like Amazon syringes and BAC water. Do people have similar hang ups with syringe filters from Amazon? Obviously if there are concerns about the sterilization of the filters on Amazon that would defeat the purpose.

Unfortunately I don’t see a lot of sterile filters available on the reputable medical supply companies people recommended for syringes. Maybe I'm looking in the wrong places.

Any insight is greatly appreciated. Thanks.

Chizikitide-1977

Replies: 24

Forum: Public Square

See posts from Dustycotton for Tisch 4mm filters direct from the manufacturer. This was literally the ONLY place to buy them anyone in the community knew of. And the link now goes dead.

And this also is a major conflict of interest with his filtering impact studies. His conclusions funnel the community into a product that is near impossible to find That he sells. Furthermore his conclusions from that study have been refuted. Many have reported much lower losses from 13mm filters.

The amount of money he is making off them is irrelevant. Someone in a scientific lab needs to be be objective and free from commercial influences. The whole episode should at least give people pause on that front. Alot of people are justifiably concerned with his actions, and I think it is wildly unfair to dismiss these concerns as drama stirring.

 

[fetefille]

Nope!

He has an exclusive contract with Tisch scientific to sell 4mm filters. No one else is legally allowed to sell them. This was proven on Peppys, receipts were shown. The thread isn't hard to find.

And 4mm filters are damn near impossible to find. A few months ago, I started the thread below:

Syringe Filter Recommendations

Sep 5, 2024

Do folks have recommendations on where to buy syringe filters? I’m looking for sterile filters so .22 um or less.

I’ve noticed a lot of people don’t like Amazon syringes and BAC water. Do people have similar hang ups with syringe filters from Amazon? Obviously if there are concerns about the sterilization of the filters on Amazon that would defeat the purpose.

Unfortunately I don’t see a lot of sterile filters available on the reputable medical supply companies people recommended for syringes. Maybe I'm looking in the wrong places.

Any insight is greatly appreciated. Thanks.

Chizikitide-1977

Replies: 24

Forum: Public Square

See posts from Dustycotton for Tisch 4mm filters direct from the manufacturer. This was literally the ONLY place to buy them anyone in the community knew of. And the link now goes dead.

And this also is a major conflict of interest with his filtering impact studies. His conclusions funnel the community into a product that is near impossible to find That he sells. Furthermore his conclusions from that study have been refuted. Many have reported much lower losses from 13mm filters.

The amount of money he is making off them is irrelevant. Someone in a scientific lab needs to be be objective and free from commercial influences. The whole episode should at least give people pause on that front. Alot of people are justifiably concerned with his actions, and I think it is wildly unfair to dismiss these concerns as drama stirring.

The only reason I can shrug it off is I could see he only tested one brand of filter, so those results were for those filters. As I looked at other filters, their numbers were different, so asked him on Reddit and he said yea, the numbers aren’t going to be the same across the board.

Sure, he added something like, why buy generic? but I buy generic bc I’m just a poor girl from the dusty flatlands of America. (cue swell of god bless America)

 

[exploitedworkerbee]

I don't know that it's nearly as significant as some of the other stuff happening right now, but that's not quite the story. They have an exclusive contract on the 4mm so you can't buy them from the source now, and they were making promotional content about how the 4mm were superior to the 13mm because you'd lose more Peptide with the 13mm.

Again, not that bad in the grand scheme of things for Peptide drama. I think what really got people upset was the way he yelled at people who were upset about it.

My gripe is that they use this “we are here because we want to help the community” marketing bullshit and then make moves like that that actually limit access to filters by setting up a de facto monopoly. If they want to be dickish business guys then they shouldn’t masquerade as community servants.

 

[Chizikitide-1977]

The only reason I can shrug it off is I could see he only tested one brand of filter, so those results were for those filters. As I looked at other filters, their numbers were different, so asked him on Reddit and he said yea, the numbers aren’t going to be the same across the board.

Sure, he added something like, why buy generic? but I buy generic bc I’m just a poor girl from the dusty flatlands of America. (cue swell of god bless America)

He's also said the Cobetter filters are prone to bursting. I'll dig it up in a bit.

I have the Cobetters as well and I've tested the limits. They are quite durable, and the membrane holds up really well. I don’t buy it.

 

[Chizikitide-1977]

Found it

avoid the cheap Cobetter filter, they can burst easier than the quality filters. It’s no fun to end up with a whole vial of peptide sprayed all over your counter.

https://www.reddit.com/r/tirzepatidehelp/comments/1fv8umt/comment/lqbxbpl

 

[fetefille]

He's also said the Cobetter filters are prone to bursting. I'll dig it up in a bit.

I have the Cobetters as well and I've tested the limits. They are quite durable, and the membrane holds up really well. I don’t buy it.

I think I remember reading that. I’m sure I could make any filter burst under the right amount of pressure. I did it on purpose a couple of times so I could see/feel/hear what that was like. I learned that as long as I pre-wet my filter, everything flows smoothly.

 

[noteablequotable]

My gripe is that they use this “we are here because we want to help the community” marketing bullshit and then make moves like that that actually limit access to filters by setting up a de facto monopoly. If they want to be dickish business guys then they shouldn’t masquerade as community servants.

And I didn't like that he was promoting product he had exclusive rights to as the best option without telling us he might have other reasons for making that claim.

 

[Chizikitide-1977]

And I didn't like that he was promoting product he had exclusive rights to as the best option without telling us he might have other reasons for making that claim.

Yes!

This stuff makes it hard to differentiate between the sound scientific conclusions and the sales pitches. Once that line has been blurred, trust is compromised. And trust is absolutely critical for a lab. Much more so than a vendor.

 

[stickfigure]

I got a bcc, fwiw. And I have a burner email too, just in case.

Same here, I am on BCC

 

[beefsteak]

This whole community is full of mfers shilling their 3d printed shitboxes and flipping garbage for $0.23 profit. I don't know what the deal is honestly.

 

[geoguy78]

This whole community is full of mfers shilling their 3d printed shitboxes and flipping garbage for $0.23 profit. I don't know what the deal is honestly.

You just described it perfectly

 

[Peevee]

This whole community is full of mfers shilling their 3d printed shitboxes and flipping garbage for $0.23 profit. I don't know what the deal is honestly.

I don’t get it either. I don’t need a box to store my shit or a sticker for my pens or any of this kitschy shit

 

[AndyPanda]

I just wanted to clarify if this was another 'we gave a stranger your name and address' situation. Email is still bad; you can get a lot of information on someone from their email.

Yea you can. A basic open source information search is all it takes.