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I would be concerned about my clotting situation if 5 units with a 4 mm noodle causes bruising. At that rate, you should be bursting blood vessels in your eyes and getting a bloody nose every time you cough, sneeze or go to the bathroom.

Do you take anything that inhibits clotting? Not just aspirin. Vitamin E, ginger, garlic, turmeric, valerian root…….lots of herbs and supplements……. I had to stop turmeric two weeks before a minor procedure. And one week before a colonoscopy.
 
DunningKruger said:
This might sound really basic, but are you pinning in a well lit room in front of a mirror so you can see where the vasculature runs? I find that good light and a mirror improved my technique so I hit vasculature far less often. Also, depressing the plunger slowly is key.
Yes thank you. I pinch, but have my husband do it for me.
 
Grogu said:
I honestly don't notice any difference in side effects or medication efficacy when I inject in my thighs versus my stomach and vice versa. I very rarely get injection site bleeding or bruising anymore. It happened mostly in the beginning.

If I'm injecting into my stomach, I look to make sure that I'm not injecting on a stretch mark. Not sure if you have any of those. I only have those on my stomach, not my thighs. But I stay clear of those.

One thing that I've changed over time is that I really like to jab myself. I don't sit there and ponder the needle going in. I just do it. I find a little forward motion helps the needle pierce the skin a little easier leading to less pain and less injection site reactions.
Did you bleed more in any certain area? Not sure why but I feel the 10units vs 5units

Yes, unfortunately I do have stretch marks too on both my stomach & thighs

Were you nervous/not like needles before & now like doing it? What do you mean by forward motion? Thank you very much!! 🙂
 
latviantower said:
I would be concerned about my clotting situation if 5 units with a 4 mm noodle causes bruising. At that rate, you should be bursting blood vessels in your eyes and getting a bloody nose every time you cough, sneeze or go to the bathroom.

Do you take anything that inhibits clotting? Not just aspirin. Vitamin E, ginger, garlic, turmeric, valerian root…….lots of herbs and supplements……. I had to stop turmeric two weeks before a minor procedure. And one week before a colonoscopy.
My Dr did have me do a whole work up of blood. On my upper back under my shoulder I do have a black & blue for several years now that I have no idea how I got it. I wouldn't have known if my husband didn't see it. Checked for everything incl hemophilia, etc + went to Dermatologist & got a punch biopsy & still no clue. Its still there 2-3 years later.

I don't get bloody noses or blood clots in my eyes either. I have no clue, I'm always a mystery to Drs, ha ha.

Nothing at all. We eat garlic & ginger in food we make, but I'm only taking magnesium nothing else at all. Has that happened to you?
 
Sid the SeaGull said:
I'm not serious with the last comment. Perhaps think of all the kids with type 1 diabetes that shoot up regularly, if kids can do it I'm sure adults can take a small pin.

No man, bruising and bleeding isn't normal. I meant, bruising is if it's KLOW, but bleeding isn't usual. Also:

Sid the SeaGull said:
All good brudda , best to be respectful of the team that run the forum . In the past members have commented in thir home language. The moderators are very generous, however there are rules that need to be respected.

It's a pain in the arse for the moderators to translate multiple languages.

The forum is US based so easy way for us to show our respect for creating this community resource is to keep everything in English.

I glanced at the forum rules, because the only time I've seen any conversation about language preferences is when people advise the vendors not to post in Chinese for customer-reach reasons, and when a mod stops someone who's wandered into the Continental Cafe section and is bothering people who were speaking in something other than English. It was nice of you to translate, but I don't believe it's frowned on to post in Spanish.

WLBLD said:
I'm scared to do the stomach.

I tried thighs on and off at the beginning because KLOW hurt. It hurt WAY more on the thighs and I went back to lower abdomen. For anything other than klow, I don't even feel the needle go in when I go there. I AM about to pinch the back of my arm with a hair clip and do there, though, because somebody said it earlier and that sounds cool.
 
randompersonrandom said:
I AM about to pinch the back of my arm with a hair clip and do there, though, because somebody said it earlier and that sounds cool.

Update: OW, fuck!! Ok, so that sucked. First of all the HAIR CLIP hurt. And the needle did too. Man, I'm staying with the abdomen, screw that.
 
randompersonrandom said:
No man, bruising and bleeding isn't normal. I meant, bruising is if it's KLOW, but bleeding isn't usual. Also:

I glanced at the forum rules, because the only time I've seen any conversation about language preferences is when people advise the vendors not to post in Chinese for customer-reach reasons, and when a mod stops someone who's wandered into the Continental Cafe section and is bothering people who were speaking in something other than English. It was nice of your to translate, but I don't believe it's frowned on to post in Spanish.

I tried thighs on and off at the beginning because KLOW hurt. It hurt WAY more on the thighs and I went back to lower abdomen. For anything other than klow, I don't even feel the needle go in when I go there. I AM about to pinch the back of my arm with a hair clip and do there, though, because somebody said it earlier and that sounds cool.
I must have really thin skin or a lot of capillaries in my legs, ha ha. I bleed a little every time & when I did the 10 now it has a very dark bruise, but not that big.

My friends do the stomach & say it doesn't hurt them. The back of my arms are the most sensitive spot I have anywhere though. Someone can grab the back of my arms & that realllyyyy hurts anytime, so not sure I will be trying there. I hope it works great for you & no pain at all. Let us know how that goes 🙂
 
randompersonrandom said:
Update: OW, fuck!! Ok, so that sucked. First of all the HAIR CLIP hurt. And the needle did too. Man, I'm staying with the abdomen, screw that.
Sad to hear that hurt!! Hope the pain goes away fast!! I can't even imagine!! 🙁
 
WLBLD said:
Sad to hear that hurt!! Hope the pain goes away fast!! I can't even imagine!! 🙁
It was worth it for science. But yeah, abdomen (specifically the lower part, two inches to the left or right of and below the navel), the first time I ever injected, I had a long pause where I was like "Ok, I can see that the needle is in me, but I felt nothing. OMG, do I have nerve damage or something?"
 
It is really common for women to bruise more easily than men, not sure what the mechanism is. Estrogen and capillary fragility?. I had lots of bruising until I realised I needed to inject more slowly, but I was taking low dose aspirin, at least until it caused gastric ulcers that bled dropping my iron levels to not much. Does not seem to happen on clopidogrel , but I am injecting slowly now. In my experience stomach is definitely the least painful. There are studies showing minor differences in absorption rates from stomach vs thighs vs arms but in practice it does not really matter.
 
randompersonrandom said:
It was worth it for science. But yeah, abdomen (specifically the lower part, two inches to the left or right of and below the navel), the first time I ever injected, I had a long pause where I was like "Ok, I can see that the needle is in me, but I felt nothing. OMG, do I have nerve damage or something?"
This is why, Lower stomach nerve sensations are distinct from other body parts due to a reliance on the autonomic nervous system, resulting in sensations that are often diffuse, dull, and visceral rather than localized and sharp like skin sensations
 
CNCCurrency said:
This is why, Lower stomach nerve sensations are distinct from other body parts due to a reliance on the autonomic nervous system, resulting in sensations that are often diffuse, dull, and visceral rather than localized and sharp like skin sensations

My arm hurts like a BUGGER right now. Why tf did I decide to pin KLOW there for Science, of all things? This really does bring me back to the "is randompersonrandom just really bored or something?" suspicion.
 
CNCCurrency said:
This is why, Lower stomach nerve sensations are distinct from other body parts due to a reliance on the autonomic nervous system, resulting in sensations that are often diffuse, dull, and visceral rather than localized and sharp like skin sensations
Really? I never knew that. I was thinking there would have more nerves & pain?
 
randompersonrandom said:
My arm hurts like a BUGGER right now. Why tf did I decide to pin KLOW there for Science, of all things? This really does bring me back to the "is randompersonrandom just really bored or something?" suspicion.
I hope you're feeling much better today!! Do you normally have sensitivity behind your arms?
 
When I started compounded tirz the instructions gave you options and I naively assumed thigh would be least painful. Learned the hard way! Lol tummy is easiest and often don’t feel anything. I do all SQ there except anything with GHK-Cu.

Now for IM the thigh (outer third halfway above the knee - center of the quadriceps muscle) is awesome. Once you get over the urge to hyperventilate, hold your breath or pass out when plunging a 1” needle to the hilt, you realize you just feel pressure, not actual pain. There’s no residual soreness, totally unlike GLOW or KLOW SQ where my upper thigh is sore for 24 hours.
 
WLBLD said:
I hope you're feeling much better today!! Do you normally have sensitivity behind your arms?
Still surprisingly sore. And I don't actually know; I've never had an injection there before. Zero chance I hit muscle, though; not with the little clip pinching the skin, a 5mm needle, and my arms not small enough yet that I don't have fat there. It just is not at ALL a good site for me to use, apparently.
 
WLBLD said:
I hope you're feeling much better today!! Do you normally have sensitivity behind your arms?
Ever get a tattoo and it goes to the back of the arms? It'll make winch pretty good and clench the arms of the chair. That areas tender.
 
latviantower said:
When I started compounded tirz the instructions gave you options and I naively assumed thigh would be least painful. Learned the hard way! Lol tummy is easiest and often don’t feel anything. I do all SQ there except anything with GHK-Cu.

Now for IM the thigh (outer third halfway above the knee - center of the quadriceps muscle) is awesome. Once you get over the urge to hyperventilate, hold your breath or pass out when plunging a 1” needle to the hilt, you realize you just feel pressure, not actual pain. There’s no residual soreness, totally unlike GLOW or KLOW SQ where my upper thigh is sore for 24 hours.
Im going to try the belly this week. My thigh looks worse now, its not that big a bruise but bigger than before & dark. That was the 10 & plan to do that again this week, so I need to choose a better area & not look like I was beat up, ha ha

I use lidocane, then ice, then wear headphones & relax to calming music thinking of something else while he does it for me, ha ha.

1" those look much more intimidating!! Ive read such great things about GLOW KLOW GHK-cu, but not ready for anything spicy yet!!
 
randompersonrandom said:
Still surprisingly sore. And I don't actually know; I've never had an injection there before. Zero chance I hit muscle, though; not with the little clip pinching the skin, a 5mm needle, and my arms not small enough yet that I don't have fat there. It just is not at ALL a good site for me to use, apparently.
I hope its better today!! Did you get any bruising? Especially with the clip pinching. You were very brave!! 🙂
 
BNLFL said:
Ever get a tattoo and it goes to the back of the arms? It'll make winch pretty good and clench the arms of the chair. That areas tender.
No thank you!! Yes, its my most tender spot. I do have some but not there, ha ha. Hopefully it was fast & your artist was skilled!!
 
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