Var + enclo only? Am i r to the tarded?

[Meritocrat]

Thats insane actually Any high estrogen sides?

I doubt it... That weasel is not human... He scoffs at estrogen, and disdains sides. He was born with beast mode unlocked.

 

[Mr. Blonde]

We all know the Weasel is too busy munching on some grindage to worry about estrogen...

 

[Gt3294a]

Sounds reasonable to me. 10mg var raised my LDL and ApoB but my ALT, AST, and HDL were all fine. Test would be better, but enclo will work if thats what you are using. It is considered safe for both lipids and liver so it shouldn't compound any effects you get from the var. But everyone reacts different to different compounds, so stay on top of your bloodwork. I recommend taking omega-3, citrus bergamot, NAC, and milk thistle while on var. Maybe red yeast rice if your lipids go sideways. I also take glutathione to help with liver support but some people don't like it so ymmv. Overall it looks like a conservative intro cycle similar to the one I recently did. Keep us posted on your progress!

Curious. I know you must have considered it. Why didn’t you take tudca while running var?

 

[Tbagger]

Curious. I know you must have considered it. Why didn’t you take tudca while running var?

I did. I just forgot to mention it here. Soooooo many supplements, it's hard to remember them all. TMG is another good one I forgot to mention.

This is my current supplement stack.

Men’s one a day multivitamin

Protein powder 100g

Creatine 10g

Collagen peptide 15g

Calcium HMB 1000mg

DHM 350mg

Lions Mane 500mg

Omega-3 2400mg

Methylene Blue 10mg

Ashwaganda 600mg

B complex

TMG 750mg

CoQ10 400mg

L-Methylfolate 1mg

NAC 600mg

Vitamin C 1000mg

Zinc 45mg

Citrus Bergamot 1200mg

P-5-P 100mg

Magnesium Glycinate 400mg

Red yeast rice 1200mg

TUDCA 500mg

Milk Thistle 100g

D3 5000iu

DIM 300mg

 

[Mr. Blonde]

I did. I just forgot to mention it here. Soooooo many supplements, it's hard to remember them all. TMG is another good one I forgot to mention.

This is my current supplement stack. I have some really expensive piss!

Men’s one a day multivitamin

Protein powder 100g

Creatine 10g

Collagen peptide 15g

Calcium HMB 1000mg

DHM 350mg

Lions Mane 500mg

Omega-3 2400mg

Methylene Blue 10mg

Ashwaganda 600mg

B complex

TMG 750mg

CoQ10 400mg

L-Methylfolate 1mg

NAC 600mg

Vitamin C 1000mg

Zinc 45mg

Citrus Bergamot 1200mg

P-5-P 100mg

Magnesium Glycinate 400mg

Red yeast rice 1200mg

TUDCA 500mg

Milk Thistle 100g

D3 5000iu

DIM 300mg

This guy supplements.

 

[JohnDoeNo]

I did. I just forgot to mention it here. Soooooo many supplements, it's hard to remember them all. TMG is another good one I forgot to mention.

This is my current supplement stack. I have some really expensive piss!

Men’s one a day multivitamin

Protein powder 100g

Creatine 10g

Collagen peptide 15g

Calcium HMB 1000mg

DHM 350mg

Lions Mane 500mg

Omega-3 2400mg

Methylene Blue 10mg

Ashwaganda 600mg

B complex

TMG 750mg

CoQ10 400mg

L-Methylfolate 1mg

NAC 600mg

Vitamin C 1000mg

Zinc 45mg

Citrus Bergamot 1200mg

P-5-P 100mg

Magnesium Glycinate 400mg

Red yeast rice 1200mg

TUDCA 500mg

Milk Thistle 100g

D3 5000iu

DIM 300mg

Holy supplements bro

 

[5byfive]

I did. I just forgot to mention it here. Soooooo many supplements, it's hard to remember them all. TMG is another good one I forgot to mention.

This is my current supplement stack. I have some really expensive piss!

Men’s one a day multivitamin

Protein powder 100g

Creatine 10g

Collagen peptide 15g

Calcium HMB 1000mg

DHM 350mg

Lions Mane 500mg

Omega-3 2400mg

Methylene Blue 10mg

Ashwaganda 600mg

B complex

TMG 750mg

CoQ10 400mg

L-Methylfolate 1mg

NAC 600mg

Vitamin C 1000mg

Zinc 45mg

Citrus Bergamot 1200mg

P-5-P 100mg

Magnesium Glycinate 400mg

Red yeast rice 1200mg

TUDCA 500mg

Milk Thistle 100g

D3 5000iu

DIM 300mg

No need for GLPs if your stomach is so full of supplements you can't fit in any food.

 

[Tbagger]

Hahaha! I think my piss may have more money in it than my bank account.

 

[Mr. Blonde]

Would Enclo work as a PCT aswell after the cycle? Just drop anavar and continue Enclo? As ai during cycle aswell? Im new to this

Some people run enclo with it in thoughts that it might help prevent some testosterone suppression and then also pct with it after wards.

 

[Tbagger]

Update: i actually feel the strain on my liver. That is actually insane.

If you are physically feeling liver strain on 10mg var, you need to get some imaging done because you probably have some serious liver damage from something else. Get your ALT, AST, and GGT levels checked. That should have been done before hopping on orals. Also, do you drink? Alcohol and orals is a recipe for disaster!

 

[Mr. Blonde]

No, 20mg currently. I rarely drink in general and absolutely not on var. I may be drinking too little water however, could that explain it?

Definitely need to chug water while on orals. If you think you've drank enough, go ahead and slam three more glasses to be sure.

 

[Tbagger]

No, 20mg currently. I rarely drink in general and absolutely not on var. I may be drinking too little water however, could that explain it?

EDIT:

I did damage my liver pretty bad by impaling myself on my bmx at the ripe age of 9 or 10 or something. Been 12-13 years since that however. And again, i in general dont drink.

Shoot for around a gallon of water a day on any type of gear. It could be the childhood accident depending on how bad it was. But if it hasn't been an issue since then, it is unlikely. I would recommend stopping taking anything hepatoxic if you are experiencing any type of liver pain. Get your ALT, AST, and GGT checked ASAP! And get your eGFR, Creatinine, and BUN levels checked. If there is something wrong with your liver, it could also be affecting your kidneys and those don't heal themselves.