Using your name when ordering

[birdwhacker]

The government knows everything you say, buy, and do. If they decide to go after you, they will find your crime illegally, then build a case against you.

https://www.amazon.com/Three-Felonies-Day-Target-Innocent/dp/1594035229/ref=asc_df_1594035229?tag=bingshoppinga-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=80333278396878&hvnetw=o&hvqmt=e&hvbmt=be&hvdev=m&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=89501&hvtargid=pla-4583932758392044&psc=1

Kind of ironic that you sent a link with full tracking analytics to say this.

You can circumcise those in the future, like this:

https://www.amazon.com/Three-Felonies-Day-Target-Innocent/dp/1594035229

everything with "ref" or "source" or "tag" is tracking

 

[usmccruchy]

And if it's just peptides, don't worry about it. If you are ordering kits of steroids, then time to talk to your spiritual advisor anyway.

my only supplier of oils kits got shut down which i found by a fluke.... I'm lonely trying to find another

 

[5byfive]

There are a lot of imagined risks here, but what are the real risks? The real risks, as I understand them, are losing Global Entry/TSA Precheck vs increased chance of confiscation/not being able to get your package.

If you ship to your real address, no matter what name you use, and it gets seized, from what I have seen reported from people that this happened to, you risk losing Global Entry/Precheck for everyone in the household. You can theorize about other consequences, but this seems to be the only practical consequence that has been reported. You are too small a fish and the 'crime', if it even really is one, just isnt worth anyone's time to follow-up on. Unless you are importing large scale amounts of product for resale, the chances of anyone coming after you are basically zero. So if you don't care about known traveler programs, just use real info.

If you use a fake name, it doesn't matter for losing access to those programs becuse they seem to disqualify the entire household, but it may make it more likely for them to flag your package. If you are worried about Global Access and still want to order from China, a different name and address (work for instance) would likely protect you from this but again may make it more likely for your package to be flagged. Also, if it wasn't successfully delivered, you wouldn't be able to pick it up from a local hub. So basically bigger chance of losing your stuff.

I have ordered from China, but it was my first order and I didn't realize the risk to my known traveler status. Going forward, I'm sticking to US shipping. I have to be more patient, wait for things to be in stock, and potentially deal with more vendors, but it seems like the safest way to go based on my acceptable level of risk.

 

[mamallama]

So, if I have pre-check and my husband is waiting on an appointment to get pre-check, how many think it would be a red flag if I recently received an order shipped from China with my real name and address? I've been thinking of placing a second order for further lab research. Would it be wise to consider domestic shipping at this point?

 

[Volkswagen57]

And if it's just peptides, don't worry about it. If you are ordering kits of steroids, then time to talk to your spiritual advisor anyway.

No issues with AAS for me

 

[5byfive]

So, if I have pre-check and my husband is waiting on an appointment to get pre-check, how many think it would be a red flag if I recently received an order shipped from China with my real name and address? I've been thinking of placing a second order for further lab research. Would it be wise to consider domestic shipping at this point?

The only possible issue would be if you had an order confiscated. There is no issue legally importing anything from out of the country. Just losing Precheck is an open question. From what people have reported, if you have a package confiscated, they will yank your Global Entry which will also cause you to lose Preckeck. I don't know if you only have Precheck and not Global Entry if a confiscation will cause you to lose Precheck. I haven't seen that discussed. Personally, I value my Precheck a lot, and my wife would kill me if we lost it, so I have moved to US shipping. You have to be more patient and wait for someone you trust to have what you want in stock, but I feel like its safer.

 

[domin8brix]

I use my real name but my work address so I can sign for stuff and not have it left on my porch in 90 degree heat for 9 hours.

 

[FarmgirlRebel]

I always use my name, but I'm also not ordering anything illegal.

My local post office lady, which serves a small village of about 40 houses and some outlying farms, is a peptide user, so we sit and chat about peptides and talk about sending peps to labs for analysis.

 

[IronCircuit]

It does matter, and it matters way more for ordering gray market and even more when ordering black market.

Use the name of a person who regularly receives mail at the address you are shipping to. ESPECIALLY if your order is legally questionable.

Hopefully others have explained that peptides aren't a big deal. Once you start getting into schedule 3/4 that's when you should potentially look into best practices.

What about HGH, considering it's federally illegal but not a scheduled drug?

 

[birdwhacker]

What about HGH, considering it's federally illegal but not a scheduled drug?

I wouldn't worry about it unless you're buying distribution amounts. As I understand it, when border patrol seizes peptides they actually flag it as HGH to make the seize look legal.

Still, illegal or not, slap your legal name on it. Denial is the defense if something arises, next to ignoring the issue entirely. There's no way to prove that you ordered it just because your name is on it. Of course, you don't want to have to run that defense, but that's how it is.

 

[Calm Logic]

Tesa is not as regulated as HGH, including at the state level. So safer legally and medically with tesa. (Tesa is a prescription medication though, so less grey than some other GH secretagogues.)

 

[Brandon556]

Pro tip: use the name of a previous resident if your worried about it.

No ones coming after you for peptides or even other substances if its for personal use. It will just be confiscated. Now if your ordering large amounts and distributing it thats a different story.

 

[Tattoo85]

I've used my real name for everything I've ever ordered over the last 15+ years, and I've ordered more than just grey market peptides lol. Anybody can ship a package to you, doesn't mean you ordered it.

 

[Texan509]

I hate the idea of the CCP getting my name and address, but they probably already got me in some database.

 

[JimGainz]

All joke aside ... If the package is held by USPS with your real name for pickup, what, if any, answer is recommended if they ask questions about it?

Also, same goes for anyone who uses Zelle, bank wire or PayPal. (I know people use crypto, but I'm framing this along side the USPS questioning). I feel that the vendors who accept these form of payment must have a backstop story for the banks like "medical supplies" and that the buyers' resposnes should match. Correct?

 

[Calm Logic]

Pro tip: use the name of a previous resident if your worried about it.

A USPS package being forwarded to the previous resident should be a bigger concern. Standard/free forwarding is one year, but they can pay for longer than that.

 

[LongevitybroTX]

All joke aside ... If the package is held by USPS with your real name for pickup, what, if any, answer is recommended if they ask questions about it?

Also, same goes for anyone who uses Zelle, bank wire or PayPal. (I know people use crypto, but I'm framing this along side the USPS questioning). I feel that the vendors who accept these form of payment must have a backstop story for the banks like "medical supplies" and that the buyers' resposnes should match. Correct?

It's not going to get held, and no one is goign to ask you any questions. If it got tagged, it wouldn't make it past customs.

 

[lastresort]

I hate the idea of the CCP getting my name and address, but they probably already got me in some database.

As an immigrant in the US, the US government literally knows almost anything about me than they usually would of an American citizen...my middle school, high school, my home countrty's home address, my education history , my tiny amount of revolving debt (!), every single address I lived in the US, my grandparents who never lived in the US, my summer vacation address, etc etc...

 

[skaylife]

Hi, so it might be a weird question, but I'm really worried about safety - do you use your actual name when providing the address to your vendor? Or not?

Best thing you can do is booking a vacation for a few days together with placing your order. Then tell your neighbours that you will place an order but won't be at home for a few days. Ask if you can give their name and adress for delivery? A good neighbour won't ever refuse such an innocent request, right?

 

[UnripeLadel]

Your address is more sensitive information than your name anyway.