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Small, possibly meaningless update on the "scammer" shipment.

I was able to use the reference number on 17track over the weekend and the last couple days to find the following tracking info:

1/24 - Shenzhen Airport sorting warehouse, order information received.

2/2 - Shenzhen Airport sorting warehouse, entering the distribution center.

2/4 - Shenzhen Airport sorting warehouse, departing from the distribution center.

Could this be real?!
 
WeezinDaJuice said:
Small, possibly meaningless update on the "scammer" shipment.

I was able to use the reference number on 17track over the weekend and the last couple days to find the following tracking info:

1/24 - Shenzhen Airport sorting warehouse, order information received.

2/2 - Shenzhen Airport sorting warehouse, entering the distribution center.

2/4 - Shenzhen Airport sorting warehouse, departing from the distribution center.

Could this be real?!
Mine have had similar tracking details. So yes
 
CNCCurrency said:
Mine have had similar tracking details. So yes
Updates:

2/4 - SZ, Goods have arrived at the operations center, operations completed.

2/6 - SZ, the goods have been shipped out of the warehouse and are being arranged for disembarkation.

Is this beyond Customs at his point and/or will it continue to move with CNY commencing?
 
WeezinDaJuice said:
Updates:

2/4 - SZ, Goods have arrived at the operations center, operations completed.

2/6 - SZ, the goods have been shipped out of the warehouse and are being arranged for disembarkation.

Is this beyond Customs at his point and/or will it continue to move with CNY commencing?
Well, another 4 days on the clock and zero movement. 18 days in.

Did this shipment fall into a CNY black hole at an airport holding facility with no hands on deck to commence the "disembarkation" (aka putting it on a friggin flight) of my initial (possibly) China Grey shipment?

Shipment Two (non-Scammy, at this point) has no tracking (the reference# returns nada) until it lands at ONT and FedEx takes the baton. 11 days in.

Paying the extra bucks to a China supplier with a US warehouse is starting to look more attractive at this point from a piece of mind and visibility perspective.

$800+ invested (+ another $100 in Solana losses) at this point with bupkis to show for it.
 
WeezinDaJuice said:
Well, another 4 days on the clock and zero movement. 18 days in.

Did this shipment fall into a CNY black hole at an airport holding facility with no hands on deck to commence the "disembarkation" (aka putting it on a friggin flight) of my initial (possibly) China Grey shipment?

Shipment Two (non-Scammy, at this point) has no tracking (the reference# returns nada) until it lands at ONT and FedEx takes the baton. 11 days in.

Paying the extra bucks to a China supplier with a US warehouse is starting to look more attractive at this point from a piece of mind and visibility perspective.

$800+ invested (+ another $100 in Solana losses) at this point with bupkis to show for it.
Which tracking site are using?
 
CNCCurrency said:
Which tracking site are using?
17track, Packages, and Aftership.

The issue with the 2nd/"Real" shipment reference number is it begins with "DF" and nothing auto detects and a search yields nothing that works.
 
I just went through something similar. Luckily the vendor is a good communicator. Basically a day after I placed my order the vendor sent me a FexEx tracking number saying “label created” from inside the US, which made me nervous because I was very much buying from CN with no state side warehouse.

A bit over a week later after it still hadn’t moved and still said “label created” I asked the vendor what the deal was and she said it was going to take a few extra days to get on a plane due to the holiday they are having over there. Sure enough, four days later the Fed Ex tracking picked up and now the package is in my hands as of today. So 14 days door to door.
 
Nopenada said:
I just went through something similar. Luckily the vendor is a good communicator. Basically a day after I placed my order the vendor sent me a FexEx tracking number saying “label created” from inside the US, which made me nervous because I was very much buying from CN with no state side warehouse.

A bit over a week later after it still hadn’t moved and still said “label created” I asked the vendor what the deal was and she said it was going to take a few extra days to get on a plane due to the holiday they are having over there. Sure enough, four days later the Fed Ex tracking picked up and now the package is in my hands as of today. So 14 days door to door.
I’ve resigned myself to the fact that I will be lucky to see anything for another week with CNY in effect.

I’m trying not to watch the pot, but the anticipation of the boil keeps bringing me back.
 
For anyone still here for another installment of "As the Grey Churns":

Looking like tracking will come in fits and starts (probably CNY-related) based on this morning's update below.

2/7 HK, the goods have arrived at the port, waiting for flight arrangement

2/9 HK, the flight is expected to be on February 10th, the local flight is expected to arrive on February 10th

The Scammer Shipment marches on...
 
WeezinDaJuice said:
For anyone still here for another installment of "As the Grey Churns":

Looking like tracking will come in fits and starts (probably CNY-related) based on this morning's update below.

2/7 HK, the goods have arrived at the port, waiting for flight arrangement

2/9 HK, the flight is expected to be on February 10th, the local flight is expected to arrive on February 10th

The Scammer Shipment marches on...
Seems like weekly updates with outdated info:

2/11 US, flight has arrived, customs clearance

FedEx stateside tracking has not changed from "Label Created", but if "Scam Air" is truly in the US, updates should start coming without me having to translate Mandarin. 🤞
 
WeezinDaJuice said:
Seems like weekly updates with outdated info:

2/11 US, flight has arrived, customs clearance

FedEx stateside tracking has not changed from "Label Created", but if "Scam Air" is truly in the US, updates should start coming without me having to translate Mandarin. 🤞
Latest update (not good):

2/24 - We just received a notice from overseas that this package is being checked by customs; customs checks are uncontrollable, and the release time is not yet confirmed. We will continue to follow up and actively cooperate to handle this, and we will urge for a quick release. If there are any updates, we will inform you in a timely manner. We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause and appreciate your understanding!, United States

Could be the end of the line.

How many pep orders get inspected and pass through to FedEx?
 
A lot of orders being sent to ONT for fulfillment are disappearing into the black hole of US customs. There's a lot of hubbub in sellers' Telegram groups about this phenomenon. It's common enough that at least one seller is reshipping such orders. My order has be stuck in ONT for 30-something days after a customs inspection notification from the Chinese carrier and my seller has ghosted me.
 
Satnuj said:
A lot of orders being sent to ONT for fulfillment are disappearing into the black hole of US customs. There's a lot of hubbub in sellers' Telegram groups about this phenomenon. It's common enough that at least one seller is reshipping such orders. My order has be stuck in ONT for 30-something days after a customs inspection notification from the Chinese carrier and my seller has ghosted me.
I just looked at Telegram. It’s a mess! Sterility issues and a lot of people in that 30-day+ No Man’s Land. TFC Alice is not looking too good here.

Does anyone know if this is a common occurrence around Chinese New Year and should be all expect a lot more package seizures?
 
WeezinDaJuice said:
I just looked at Telegram. It’s a mess! Sterility issues and a lot of people in that 30-day+ No Man’s Land. TFC Alice is not looking too good here.

Does anyone know if this is a common occurrence around Chinese New Year and should be all expect a lot more package seizures?
I can't find the original Telegram post informing people of the failed Janoshik sterility test. It looks like it was purged. The discussion surrounding the failed test is pretty uncomfortable to watch, with many claims that a healthy body should be able to deal with a little bit of bacteria and such. Lot's of apologestists claiming everyone fails the sterility test or it's the grey, buyer beware.
 
Satnuj said:
I can't find the original Telegram post informing people of the failed Janoshik sterility test. It looks like it was purged. The discussion surrounding the failed test is pretty uncomfortable to watch, with many claims that a healthy body should be able to deal with a little bit of bacteria and such. Lot's of apologestists claiming everyone fails the sterility test or it's the grey, buyer beware.
Will filtering mitigate this? Super concerning when the focus has been about reconstituting with good (Hospira) BAC, only to find out the vial you’re dumping it into is contaminated. One step found forward, three steps back.
 
WeezinDaJuice said:
Will filtering mitigate this? Super concerning when the focus has been about reconstituting with good (Hospira) BAC, only to find out the vial you’re dumping it into is contaminated. One step found forward, three steps back.
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9143324/

This article discusses the effectiveness of filtration with PES and PVDF filters extensively, and it does so across three different contamination scenarios: microorganisms, nutrient-derived particulates, and protein-related fouling. Each section evaluates how well the two sterile filters remove or prevent contaminants from passing through.

The article’s core message is that both filters are effective at removing contaminants , but their performance depends on the type of contaminant and the specific point in the manufacturing workflow where sterile filtration is used.

Obviously, you don't have a clean room, so ymmv
 
WeezinDaJuice said:
I just looked at Telegram. It’s a mess! Sterility issues and a lot of people in that 30-day+ No Man’s Land. TFC Alice is not looking too good here.
What’s frustrating is the Telegram group is being scrubbed of any reference to failed sterility tests or even links to policy regarding product quality (including straight-up quotes), but I can’t discuss it here due to restrictions on my account on discussing that which shall not be named.
 
Nopenada said:
I just went through something similar. Luckily the vendor is a good communicator. Basically a day after I placed my order the vendor sent me a FexEx tracking number saying “label created” from inside the US, which made me nervous because I was very much buying from CN with no state side warehouse.

A bit over a week later after it still hadn’t moved and still said “label created” I asked the vendor what the deal was and she said it was going to take a few extra days to get on a plane due to the holiday they are having over there. Sure enough, four days later the Fed Ex tracking picked up and now the package is in my hands as of today. So 14 days door to door.
I'm glad to hear you received your package, going by the day you made this their Chinese New Year celebrations hadn't started yet. Not sure what holidays they are referring too?
 
WeezinDaJuice said:
Latest update (not good):

2/24 - We just received a notice from overseas that this package is being checked by customs; customs checks are uncontrollable, and the release time is not yet confirmed. We will continue to follow up and actively cooperate to handle this, and we will urge for a quick release. If there are any updates, we will inform you in a timely manner. We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause and appreciate your understanding!, United States

Could be the end of the line.

How many pep orders get inspected and pass through to FedEx?
Just to wrap this up:

1) Both were caught in the ONT Customs vortex (late Jan/mid Feb) that nothing escaped from. FedEx numbers have not changed status, but I fully expect them to expire or close out at some point.

2) I received refunds from both orders after piecing together the chats and emails. The 2nd one was straight forward but took some time. The first/Scam order turned out to be who I initially thought it was and she refunded me also, after a lot of back and forth, and karma is dealing her a serious taste of comeuppance based on her channels.

Moral of the story: This really is a crapshoot and if you’re not prepared to possibly having to take a bite of that shit sandwich then don’t pay for all the fixins…
 
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