TRT and metabolic problems

[Redz]

bro 200mg its not to much? next monday will receave the last bloodwork that Dr ask and ill se if i will be on TRT because the clomid works very well, i dont feel nothing diferente, even no morning woods.

Not sure if it’s because I’ve used steroids for many years but I need the higher dosing to be at upper normal level. I feel great on 225mg/week.

 

[Goonwise]

ohh this, actually here in chile T Drs are very expensive, im trying for first time but it not some that can i maintain in time, now i ask for a T in the knowest Hindi web to try if can clear customs because even here the T its expensive in a no clienical sites.

The enclo by India pharma are majorly clomids.

 

[Turbo-Farmer]

bro 200mg its not to much? next monday will receave the last bloodwork that Dr ask and ill se if i will be on TRT because the clomid works very well, i dont feel nothing diferente, even no morning woods.

It takes a few weeds at an elevated level for you to start to feel better

 

[Humble_Searcher]

These are the labs that I order. I strongly believe that these markers should be closely monitored while taking any anabolic/androgenic compounds, including testosterone. I'm a little extra OCD and get them drawn every 4-6 weeks but most people on TRT can get away with every 3-6 months after their dosage is dialed in. You should get them checked more frequently as you dial in your dosage and definitely more often if you play with any other anabolics.

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Wow the prices are unbelievable good.

 

[AndresX24]

The enclo by India pharma are majorly clomids.

yep because i ask for enclo and receave comid citrate.

 

[AndresX24]

I'm about 3-4 weeks into trt. Dr says 200mg Im every 14 days. I switched it to 20mg eod. I can already tell it's better. 200mg at once was a little to much for me. Erections so frequent and hard, called in sick to work, to stay home with the wife. But I was out of gas at about day 7-8. Followed by a week of fealing worse than before trt. More often the better, once your dialed in, then try less frequent dosing, if you want

hahaha amen i want that problem!!! its kind sad be on this feelings about sexualy nothing motivate you even thinkng that im not strong enought, good for you that find you sweet spot.

 

[UPresearcher]

Thanks! Will be curious how the next numbers turn out. Besides labs, do you feel any better? Energy, mood, etc?

I haven't noticed an extreme difference, but I've done really well recovering from workouts while cycling off of the BPC/TB/GHKcu I was using to help heal up oral surgery for an old infection. I was surprised to see the increase I did over those first 7 weeks and think time will tell how lasting my results are once I test my numbers again. One question I'll be asking myself is if Kisspeptin is worth the twice daily pins to achieve the increase I'm seeing vs just taking T a few times a week.

 

[MFGamesta]

My levels were at mid 200's and my primary still won't prescribe trt so I went with the the clinics and got my levels to the 900-1100. Luckily for me SD and libido was never an issue for me regardless of my test levels and I suspect that I've had low test levels since my 20s.

Now I pretty much know how to dose and do bloodwork and I know where to find good test so im ditching the clinic too.

I switched PCP because my Dr didn't think I had low T because he was only looking at total T. I called many doctors in my plan to see which ones were pro trt and found a great doctor.

 

[Goonwise]

yep because i ask for enclo and receave comid citrate.

Clomids have higher risks of side affects.

 

[AndresX24]

Clomids have higher risks of side affects.

yeah i know, so far no side effects yet, but i will start TRT soon wo ill stop taking it.

 

[AndresX24]

UPDATEEEEEEEE

Good afternoon guys:

I have to say I’m a bit disappointed in my doctor; he diagnosed me with secondary hypogonadism and hyporeninemic hypertension. It turns out that, in order to prescribe the testosterone and give me the dosage protocol, the doctor requires an annual fee that I can't afford. My plan was to use the testosterone he prescribed and go in for check-ups every three months with the tests he ordered, but that’s not going to happen now.

So, I am asking for your guidance and wisdom.

What should I do? How much should I inject, what blood tests should I get, and when should I have them done after the injection?

any advice its wellcome.

 

[Tbagger]

UPDATEEEEEEEE

Good afternoon guys:

I have to say I’m a bit disappointed in my doctor; he diagnosed me with secondary hypogonadism and hyporeninemic hypertension. It turns out that, in order to prescribe the testosterone and give me the dosage protocol, the doctor requires an annual fee that I can't afford. My plan was to use the testosterone he prescribed and go in for check-ups every three months with the tests he ordered, but that’s not going to happen now.

So, I am asking for your guidance and wisdom.

What should I do? How much should I inject, what blood tests should I get, and when should I have them done after the injection?

any advice its wellcome.

I would self administer if I was in your shoes. Well I do now anyways even though I have a prescription because it's cheap and easy. How much will depend on you. Everyone is different, aromatize differently, different blood thickness, lipids, etc. I would start at 100mg a week split into as many pins as you can reliably take, and then get labs and adjust dosage every 6 weeks until you are dialed in. As for blood tests, this is what I order, but I am also taking other shit so you might not need IGF1 or prolactin, but it's never a bad idea to see where those are at anyways.

 

[AndresX24]

I would self administer if I was in your shoes. Well I do now anyways even though I have a prescription because it's cheap and easy. How much will depend on you. Everyone is different, aromatize differently, different blood thickness, lipids, etc. I would start at 100mg a week split into as many pins as you can reliably take, and then get labs and adjust dosage every 6 weeks until you are dialed in. As for blood tests, this is what I order, but I am also taking other shit so you might not need IGF1 or prolactin, but it's never a bad idea to see where those are at anyways.

hello Tbagger, how hoy know what its the dose correct? you need to feel something or yous your bloodwork have to some valiues?

in my case im using reta and cjc/ipa too but my igf was not hight as expected for it.

 

[Tbagger]

Start low and get bloodwork done at every step as you titrate up/down. Stay at each titration for a minimum of 6 weeks before pulling bloods. Try to avoid going far into the superphysiological range. But finding your perfect dose is a combination of bloodwork and feels. You also want to find a dose that allows you to take your shots at an interval you can maintain and not have to use an AI or other meds to mitigate any sides. You will always want to blast more because the more you take the better you feel, but stick to a manageable dose that is at top of range rather than trying to achieve the best feeling as possible. Test is highly anabolic/androgenic and going overboard will have long term health problems.

 

[AndresX24]

Start low and get bloodwork done at every step as you titrate up/down. Stay at each titration for a minimum of 6 weeks before pulling bloods. Try to avoid going far into the superphysiological range. But finding your perfect dose is a combination of bloodwork and feels. You also want to find a dose that allows you to take your shots at an interval you can maintain and not have to use an AI or other meds to mitigate any sides. You will always want to blast more because the more you take the better you feel, but stick to a manageable dose that is at top of range rather than trying to achieve the best feeling as possible. Test is highly anabolic/androgenic and going overboard will have long term health problems.

when you say to range, some say that its 800, another are 1200. what was your experience? i must go to blood work every 6 weeks until? and then?

 

[Skidude]

when you say to range, some say that its 800, another are 1200. what was your experience? i must go to blood work every 6 weeks until? and then?

I am looking forward to @Tbagger 's response, he definitely seems to be more of an expert.

I will say for me, I tried to maximize my good benefits by minimizing my bad sides..

So when I saw hematocrit going up I adjusted downwards.

Some have to adjust as a result of estradiol, or they take an AI, I did not need or want to take AIs. Luckily I do not aromatize very easily.

The main thing is to stay exactly the same between bloods so you know how to adjust, it took me a while to dial it in.

Currently 875Total/20.6Free 17Estradiol IGF233 with 1.7Z

 

[AndresX24]

Well guyss, another big update,

i went a new Dr this morning and give sustaplex from XT labs, he injectet me a whole ML and on monday ill start doing it subq EOD 10ui.

in a month ill need blood work just of T and T free, no hetocrit o lipid yet.

 

[Tbagger]

when you say to range, some say that its 800, another are 1200. what was your experience? i must go to blood work every 6 weeks until? and then?

I base it off on around 1000 total test. I feel best at around 1100-1200 and keep cruise there with 150mg week split into daily pins due to my high aromatization. If I were to do 2 or 3 pins a week, I would probably drop my dose a bit to minimize e2 sides. It's all just a balancing act of your hormones. I do recommend bloodwork every 6 weeks while dialing in your dose. After that, I recommend at least 2 times a year to check on things. Test is a highly anabolic/androgenic compound and your body can all of the sudden decide to spike an enzyme or your E2 and lipids can shoot up all of the sudden even after years.

 

[AndresX24]

I base it off on around 1000 total test. I feel best at around 1100-1200 and keep cruise there with 150mg week split into daily pins due to my high aromatization. If I were to do 2 or 3 pins a week, I would probably drop my dose a bit to minimize e2 sides. It's all just a balancing act of your hormones. I do recommend bloodwork every 6 weeks while dialing in your dose. After that, I recommend at least 2 times a year to check on things. Test is a highly anabolic/androgenic compound and your body can all of the sudden decide to spike an enzyme or your E2 and lipids can shoot up all of the sudden even after years.

thank you for the advice, how you manage the blimp that formed in the injection site? i have a ball in belly, i just pin 0.14ml...

 

[lastresort]

I have been doing T propionate blast (so yeah a bit off topic) instead of T cypionate because so far, T propionate caused a lot less moon face bloating than T cypionate. I am also taking 0.5mg of anastrozole every 3 days.