To bring or not to bring Mounjaro on trip abroad?

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JohannesSweden77 said:
Unfortunately we don't have that here. No other option than the branded ones. Different system which usually works great because it's free over a certain amount but not these kinds of needs for some reason. They're not covered.

Ugh, that stinks. If the cost is too prohibitive, another possibility would be to obtain the Rx for Zebpound but don't fill it. I have my doctor prescribe me Zepbound so that the use is in my medical history. You could print out the Rx and travel with that and your reconstituted vials. Make the label as professional looking as possible.

If the cost is something you'd rather avoid, but not a financial constraint, then why not just throw money at the issue and be done with it. Peace of mind is priceless.

What I personally wouldn't do is stop taking tirzepatide. Not so much of any resultant weight gain in two or three weeks, I think that that would be minor, but more for the ravenous return of hunger that many describe and also this rat study, which suggests that stopping and restarting may affect subsequent weight loss.

Stopping and Restarting Certain GLP-1s to Lose Weight May Make the Drug Less Effective

Not that I'm looking at start another thread about the pros and cons of lifetime glp-1 use, since I think we've recently beaten that horse dead. But this article is a somewhat different twist and talks about cycling glp-1s and the potential for reduced effectiveness when cycling over staying on...

glp1forum.com
 
My dad brings his Gansulin pen with reconstituted Tirz with him on trips and just puts it in the original travelcase in his backpack.

No icepack, no battery pack, nothing.

Keeps it at roomtemperature for days.

When back home he puts it in the fridge again and uses it for another few weeks.

He is fine with it and the stuff still works fine.

I recommended him to keep it cool during travel but he is stubborn 🫠
 
slimmingmouse65 said:
I am going to China and chatgpt said firmly that China does not allow any peptides in checked baggage because they X-Rays everything and have the most advanced detection system. I will be there for two weeks and will have to watch my food intake. I traveled to South Korea in March and my Reta vials were in the checked baggage with bac water and syringes, no problem.

" Seizure and Detainment: China Customs heavily scrutinizes white powders and unlabelled liquids. If intercepted, your items will likely be seized, and you could face intense questioning or legal penalties for attempting to smuggle unregulated biochemical substances across the border."
Of course China doesn't allow that. If you go to China, you must buy them in China. You may only have them with you when you leave China

Also bringing back to China is not such a good idea, affter buying from China and receiving with so many difficulties in your country. ChatGPT knows what it is talking about. But you don't! 🤣 Just kidding!

Enjoy your trip
 
Grogu said:
Ugh, that stinks. If the cost is too prohibitive, another possibility would be to obtain the Rx for Zebpound but don't fill it. I have my doctor prescribe me Zepbound so that the use is in my medical history. You could print out the Rx and travel with that and your reconstituted vials. Make the label as professional looking as possible.

If the cost is something you'd rather avoid, but not a financial constraint, then why not just throw money at the issue and be done with it. Peace of mind is priceless.

What I personally wouldn't do is stop taking tirzepatide. Not so much of any resultant weight gain in two or three weeks, I think that that would be minor, but more for the ravenous return of hunger that many describe and also this rat study, which suggests that stopping and restarting may affect subsequent weight loss.

Stopping and Restarting Certain GLP-1s to Lose Weight May Make the Drug Less Effective

Not that I'm looking at start another thread about the pros and cons of lifetime glp-1 use, since I think we've recently beaten that horse dead. But this article is a somewhat different twist and talks about cycling glp-1s and the potential for reduced effectiveness when cycling over staying on...

glp1forum.com
It takes about 25 days for tirzepatide to clear the blood stream and I'll be approximately 16 days without so I don't think my body will reset and I have to start over with a worse result. Plus I'm only doing it once not several stops and starts like in that study. My doctor said that it's fine with that long of a break. I'm still leaning towards bringing a ultra expensive pen and just enjoying my vacation. No fiddling with any gray just to save a buck and have a nervous breakdown in customs. Not worth it. Money is just money. Peace of mind is priceless.
 
Damn you, chatgpt! " No, you cannot safely or easily buy gray-market peptides like retatrutide in person while traveling to China. While a massive network of chemical factories in hubs like Shenzhen and Changsha manufacture these research chemicals, they operate exclusively as online, mail-order exporters. They do not run physical, brick-and-mortar "gray market retail shops" that a tourist can walk into,"

" Hidden Physical Locations : Investigations into these exporters show they consistently list false office and factory addresses . They deliberately hide their brick-and-mortar footprint from the public to avoid local regulatory crackdowns."
 
JohannesSweden77 said:
It takes about 25 days for tirzepatide to clear the blood stream and I'll be approximately 16 days without so I don't think my body will reset and I have to start over with a worse result. Plus I'm only doing it once not several stops and starts like in that study. My doctor said that it's fine with that long of a break. I'm still leaning towards bringing a ultra expensive pen and just enjoying my vacation. No fiddling with any gray just to save a buck and have a nervous breakdown in customs. Not worth it. Money is just money. Peace of mind is priceless.

Plenty of people stop and restart for various reasons, especially for surgeries, but even the guidance for that has changed recently to less time off the medication. I don't think one stop/start is going to result in the fat rat 🤣 . I'm just paranoid and never plan on willingly missing a dose.

Yes, if the cost of the pen is inconsequential to your financial position, then just buy the pen and move on and enjoy your vacation.
 
This is from Chat GPT when I asked to compare Thailand to Western Europe as far as traveling with research peptides:

So, like many things in the grey community, the answer depends on the context. Trips to Disney or Spain, probably not so risky with grey peptides, Thailand more risky.

Thailand presents a materially greater risk than Western Europe. I would not take typical gray-market peptide vials—vendor-labeled, “research use only,” or unlabeled—into Thailand.

Thailand’s traveler exception is written for an actual patient carrying an actual medication: no more than a 30-day supply , in its original properly labeled container , accompanied by a physician’s prescription. (FDA Thailand) A gray-market vial does not fit that description cleanly, even when the peptide itself is not classified as a narcotic or psychotropic substance.

The particular pitfalls in Thailand​[archived internal link]

A vial marked only “RETA 20 mg,” “CAG 10 mg,” or “research use only” is difficult to characterize as prescribed personal medication.

An unlabeled vial or prefilled syringe is worse because you cannot reliably prove its contents.

Multiple peptides, numerous vials, BAC water and syringes together can look more like an importation kit than ordinary vacation medication.

Thailand limits ordinary personal medication to 30 days . For a longer trip, carrying 60 days of gray-market product would be especially difficult to justify under that exception. (FDA Thailand)

Thai Customs treats certain health products as restricted goods requiring authorization from the relevant agency. (Customs Thailand)

Most weight-loss peptides are not narcotics merely because they are peptides. The likely issue would be unauthorized or unidentified medicine , possible seizure, questioning, or refusal to allow entry—not automatically a narcotics prosecution. But Thailand is not where I would volunteer for that argument.

Western Europe​[archived internal link]
Western Europe is somewhat more forgiving for recognizable personal medication , but gray market remains a gray area rather than a safe harbor.

France permits quantities compatible with personal therapeutic use and may require the original valid prescription; without a prescription, its general guidance refers to limited personal-treatment quantities. (Douane Gouv) Spain states that travelers may carry personal medication but can be required to present a prescription or medical report on entry or exit. (AEMPS) Italy’s border-health authorities specifically oversee pharmaceuticals not authorized in Italy that arrive from outside the EU. (Salute)

Once inside the Schengen area, there usually is not a customs inspection every time you take a train from France to Spain or Italy. Your most important exposure is generally the first external border where you enter Europe , although inspections can still occur later. The UK is separate from both the EU and Schengen; its controlled-medication traveler policy specifically requires medicines to have been lawfully prescribed and dispensed. (GOV.UK)

My practical recommendation: use only a prescribed, pharmacy-dispensed product for Thailand. Keep it in the original packaging, carry a doctor’s letter listing the full generic name, strength, dosage, indication and amount, and stay within 30 days. For a gray-market investigational peptide such as retatrutide, cagrilintide or eloralintide, I would leave it home rather than risk Thai customs. Western Europe is less concerning in practice, but I would still avoid unlabeled or “research” vials—particularly when first entering through Italy.
 
Personally, I wouldn't bother, even if it's a non-event with airport security and customs.

It's called vacation (or holiday for many international friends) for a reason. Unless someone requires a med for critical reasons like blood sugar control, it's often easier and less stressful just to not bother. Take a break, enjoy yourself, and get back into your treatment routine when you return home.
 
During my three years of using Reta, I traveled with reta in vials and bac water, syringes to Austria, Germany, Israel, South Korea, Spain, Honduras, Mexico, Canada, Malta, Italy, and Bali. I always put my peptides in the checked baggage and had zero problems. However, for my trip to China that is coming up soon, I won't bring any peptides. They apparently have high tech x-ray machines and flag vials and meds immediately. I plan on pinning myself with 12 mg of reta instead of 10 to have a lasting effect. I am the one of the research subjects who has mind-blowing hunger pains when I take a break from Reta.
 
JohannesSweden77 said:
Like the title say. I'm going in vacation in September and I haven't decided if I should bring my glp1 medicine or not. I will be away about 18 days. I'm deciding between to pick up one of my super expensive prescriptions of mounjaro (tirz) 10mg in unopened packaging and a note from my doctor or just be without for thatv period.

I need input because I'm stuck.

Is it worth picking up a prescription for about $400 (40mg). Buying a cooling travel bag, risking the meds getting bad from the heat after about 15 hours travelling or is it just better to be without?

What side effects can I expect?

Anyone
It is best to check the particular country you are visiting and even on a cruise, you go into different countries waters so you would want to make sure that you are not violating their laws. A prescription is vefy important but you can have them labelled clearly but they need to hsve your name on it to match the prescription.
 
Well, I was on holiday last week. Was travelling from Ireland to Spain and back. As my departure day and arrival were the Reta days I didn't have to bother to travel with Glp-1, but I'm currently also on Glow and KPV. I've purchased a travelling container on Amazon. The kind of thermos bottle with an ice block inside. I had a one Convipen with loaded Glow cartridge and another cartridge with KPV. Of course pen needles and alcohol swabs too. Packed that to the hand luggage and was a little bit nervous on the security check. In Dublin, after scan they mark my suitcase for check and the container with peps was the reason. Custom took it out and said something wrong with your water bottle....so I said it's not a bottle, but a container for medication with an ice bottle inside. She asked what medication and I said Glp...she didn’t open that and said alright, and it was it. Travelling back, the container caught attention of a the custom on security again. But I wasn't stressed, cuz had an empty pen then with no cartridges, I used during the stay. And again they asked me about a bottle and I said the same story it's for medication and has an ice block inside. Custom opened the container this time, took a look on the block (which wasn't frozen this time) and again said ok, you can go.

Conclusion is, that the next time I will probably travell with that other medical case from Amazon, but the smaller one, which looks like a pencil case. Think the bottle with ice block catches too much unnecessary attention on the security checkout.
 
Hi. I've flown UK to Turkey and back 6 times with an insulin cooler I bought on Ama§on. The type with a pen sharp holder in the lid along with an ice pack. Never been checked. Once had 4 pens of retail tirz as trips are for a few months.

I'm worried about my next trip with reconstituted gray in vials though, so bit sure what's the best option is.
 
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