Thoughts on HGH

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Timfok said:
You’re too young. You won’t notice the benefits and likely won’t have the patience to see or feel them as hgh is a slow burn.

is it a slow burn? The secretogues affect me immdiately... why is hgh a slow burn?

I am 45, I have been using CJC IPA. My main motivation was sleep, and it has helped with that. But Its helped in the gym. It gives my muscles way more volume... but I really badly want recomp and max fat loss as I am stalling like crazy

thinking about moving over to hgh
 
Nabster said:
is it a slow burn? The secretogues affect me immdiately... why is hgh a slow burn?

I am 45, I have been using CJC IPA. My main motivation was sleep, and it has helped with that. But Its helped in the gym. It gives my muscles way more volume... but I really badly want recomp and max fat loss as I am stalling like crazy

thinking about moving over to hgh
What's your thoughts on CJC/IPA i am about to start any tips?
 
IronPaw. said:
I have reduced it to 1.2IU twice a day, is this still to high?
Do you have labs? Anyone can post numbers.. go by your labs. Igf/z score, lipids, A1C, fasting insulin, cmp..

I like staying around the 2.0 z. Current labs look great. Started at 2iu, went up to 6iu in bulk. Currently coasting at 4iu daily. Give it 4-6 weeks when titrating and rerun your igf/z to see where you’re at. I run my bg/fbg morning and nightly. A cgm or any gm off Amazon works.
 
Ricey said:
What's your thoughts on CJC/IPA i am about to start any tips?

The main thing I would say is, try to tritate since that will help mitigate water retention. Water retention will make you look puffier unfortunately, especially the face, but it does fade after a few weeks

The other thing is, i had to get to quite a high dose for it to really help with my sleep. Currently at about 400mcg of each and sleep is much better than it used to be. Taking it at night before sleeping works well for me, you need like 30 mins for the flush to fade

Real good for the gym, definitely more muscular than I used to be with the exact same work outs

I am toying with jumping on HGH. Supposedly its much more effective... but more sides... not sure about it though. I would like more fat loss
 
MrBMG said:
Do you have labs? Anyone can post numbers.. go by your labs. Igf/z score, lipids, A1C, fasting insulin, cmp..

I like staying around the 2.0 z. Current labs look great. Started at 2iu, went up to 6iu in bulk. Currently coasting at 4iu daily. Give it 4-6 weeks when titrating and rerun your igf/z to see where you’re at. I run my bg/fbg morning and nightly. A cgm or any gm off Amazon works.
I have only done 1 IGF-1 test so far, it was just to test if the HGH working at all and not fake, so on advice for a friend took a much higher does just before. Test results for IGF-1 45.6 will get more done soon.

My glucose levels were great 3.7 so not concerned about them, but i will still look at getting a cgm anyway.

Thank you for your post it is greatly appreciated, i have currently returned to 2mg of HGH twice a day, just before bed at least 2 hours fasted and then first thing in the morning and not eating till 10am. Seems to be working, but a cgm would help confirm glucose levels.
 
Nabster said:
The main thing I would say is, try to tritate since that will help mitigate water retention. Water retention will make you look puffier unfortunately, especially the face, but it does fade after a few weeks

The other thing is, i had to get to quite a high dose for it to really help with my sleep. Currently at about 400mcg of each and sleep is much better than it used to be. Taking it at night before sleeping works well for me, you need like 30 mins for the flush to fade

Real good for the gym, definitely more muscular than I used to be with the exact same work outs

I am toying with jumping on HGH. Supposedly its much more effective... but more sides... not sure about it though. I would like more fat loss
Thank you will start low and build up. Currently starting to bulk, running enclo and Cialis and titrating off Reta. Will keep you posted. Should be receiving it today 🙂
 
I'm 42, my IGF-1 was at 315 with a Z-score of 1.9 after five weeks on Tesa and IPA. Unfortunately I didn't get a baseline before the secretagogues. I'll retest after I finish the cycle on 4/9. I have some HGH on the way, but seems like I responded pretty well to the secretagogues.
 
All these people fear mongering in ur replies just don’t know much.. I would say lower the doses a bit and don’t expect much “bonemass” from hgh lol I doubt tha at 18 your sutures are open. Stop looking at doses start looking at blood testing and results. Id always say for HGH start at 2 iu and titrate up, do a blood test every month or so to see what dosage is best for you and have ancillaries on hand. Don’t use them immediately but track ur blood sugar and blood pressure, good luck man 🙏 (and stay away from TikTok for a lil while)
 
lessthanhalf said:
Also long term use at those doses could definitely cause acromegaly, and I assume you do not want an extra large nose, thick brow ridges and extra large jaw and thick coarser skin and bigger hands etc etc.

posted this before the previous post
Acromegaly is something that happens over YEARS lol and by the way this kids talking I think a thick brow ridge and jaw is kind of the goal
 
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