FlowerFairy
GLP-1 Enthusiast

I think all those are sold- I haven’t seen them in ages. Trust me, I’ve been looking.WLBLD said:For some reason the alis block the US from seeing those. Goodies is sold out too

I think all those are sold- I haven’t seen them in ages. Trust me, I’ve been looking.WLBLD said:For some reason the alis block the US from seeing those. Goodies is sold out too


OMG this! This is really hard for me, too. But my workaround is "my friend was taking Zepbound and it was working great, but then she changed jobs and her new insurance won't cover it as she's lost just enough weight for them to not Rx it. She started getting it through one of those compounding companies you see on tv and ads online, and that was cheaper and still worked. But then one of the RNs there told her she could get the product herself and mix it at home and she's doing that for much cheaper" I then answer any questions with knowledge because "my friend" has shared her entire jurney with me and talk it about when we meet up.Fordhayes said:I’m having a hard time lately when a friend or family member who struggles with their weight says how they wish they could afford the weight loss injections. Because it would cost them hundreds of dollars a month through insurance. I literally have the answer that could help them. You can do this for like $30 a month with all supplies included in that price. But I’m not breaking my promise to my wife.

Same. I am starting to deplete my stock of insulin syringes. I have 2 boxes of pen needles from late mom. I really need to look into getting an injection pen for my GHK-CU.Poobert said:My first pen is coming today thankfully! I really didn’t want to prep a needle every time I take GHK-CU
I would feel fine in such a case to tell them to explore r/tirzepatidecompound, consider telehealth, and to come back to me later if they have more questions.Fordhayes said:I’m having a hard time lately when a friend or family member who struggles with their weight says how they wish they could afford the weight loss injections. Because it would cost them hundreds of dollars a month through insurance. I literally have the answer that could help them. You can do this for like $30 a month with all supplies included in that price. But I’m not breaking my promise to my wife.
Gotta try this warm water hack!FlowerFairy said:Agree w/all of the above, but I love my Luxura over my convi. It is a great pen, though.
I would add that chia seeds in water plus drinking hot (very warm) water is more effective than other OTC constipation treatments. Hot water even works after an am movement. Drink, go on doing things, 20 minutes later, boom.
I don’t advertise my success except w/very close friends/family. And my pcp knows and has given her approval (and only notes I’m onncompounded Tirz in her notes).
Ive heard people in other countries can see them on both Alis but its blocked here in the US for some reason. I hope to find one!!FlowerFairy said:I was very lucky and got in on the “damaged” Luxuras- there was a blemish in the silver ring and they hadn’t been sold- then someone on Alibaba found a pallet of them and started selling them at a discount. Plus Goodies was selling them- that’s how I got a champagne one. I think he still sells them, but not sure.

Compounded is still hundreds a month, so it’s not really the affordability answer. If cost is the main barrier, what they actually need to be researching is the grey market. That’s where the real cost difference is.Vriende said:I would feel fine in such a case to tell them to explore r/tirzepatidecompound, consider telehealth, and to come back to me later if they have more questions.
Like always, I think it is good if people do some exploring on their own and get some good background info.

Thanks for sharing your insights. I'm very new to all this, and the social complexity is daunting (in addition to all the research, which feels overwhelming!) Personally, for now, I'm keeping this almost entirely to myself, except for a friend who shared her journey with me. While I want to be one of those people who don't care, in this instance, I feel more comfortable being private. I'll have to go through all the comments to see how others manage this and if time makes it easier to open up about.Rink123 said:A few things I wish knew before:
Research, research, research: you’re literally injecting yourself (likely w chinese research chems). Nerd out on risks vs reward and everything else.
Pens > vials: pre-load, turn the dial and go. Like holy these are so convenient. Not to mention fun. Wish someone told me to just go for the premium models ( convi is #1 imo )
Lowest effective dose is the goal: just because literature or anecdotal cycles have a certain number to titrate to, doesn’t mean you have to go that high. Find your own ceiling, especially for glp’s!
Filter. It’s like $1-2 more per reconstitution, like why wouldn’t you…?
Lastly, huge question to y’all that I’m still dealing with all the time. Who do you tell irl about your ‘research’? I didn’t expect the social complexity. Like I lean towards keeping it to myself, but have told a few people with very mixed responses. Can y’all share what your approach is here?

Please elaborate on this. How much Chia seeds, and how much water we we use?FlowerFairy said:I would add that chia seeds in water plus drinking hot (very warm) water is more effective than other OTC constipation treatments. Hot water even works after an am movement. Drink, go on doing things, 20 minutes later, boom.

I started with 2 tablespoonful, worked up to 4 over a few months in a 12-16 oz glass of warm water.Lovedog100 said:Please elaborate on this. How much Chia seeds, and how much water we we use?

I wish you luck! I would love to have more, but thus far no luck.WLBLD said:Ive heard people in other countries can see them on both Alis but its blocked here in the US for some reason. I hope to find one!!![]()

I am jealous of your friends. I would be so relieved if I had an IRL mentor type around.MakeNoPeaceWithEvil said:The only thing I disagree with in this whole thread is to use calculators. I may be alone here but I will die on this hill...LEARN THE MATH! Do not use calculators until you understand concentration, dilution, and dosing.
Biggest lesson learned is telling friends, family, and coworkers. I LOVE helping people but when friends and family hear and see the progress, they often have ZERO interest in researching and just want a vial...I have sold half of my reta at cost to good friends and coworkers, and I had to reconstitute, sell it to them, provide insulin syringes, and then coach them on what to expect...I label anything I give away as clearly RUO but it's still risky and I don't plan on doing it anymore...
Also, LEARN THE MATH! Do not use calculators until you understand concentration, dilution, and dosing.


Have you tried a VPN that would make it look like you are in another country?WLBLD said:Ive heard people in other countries can see them on both Alis but its blocked here in the US for some reason. I hope to find one!!![]()
That's luckily exactly where I first heard about gray and thus ended up here. Started off on compounded but I definitely can't afford those prices long term!Fordhayes said:Compounded is still hundreds a month, so it’s not really the affordability answer. If cost is the main barrier, what they actually need to be researching is the grey market. That’s where the real cost difference is.
I’m with you that self-directed research is valuable and necessary. But for someone truly priced out,
r/tirzepatidecompound sub isn’t going to solve their problem. Could lead them to coming across something about grey market though.

MakeNoPeaceWithEvil said:The only thing I disagree with in this whole thread is to use calculators. I may be alone here but I will die on this hill...LEARN THE MATH! Do not use calculators until you understand concentration, dilution, and dosing.
Biggest lesson learned is telling friends, family, and coworkers. I LOVE helping people but when friends and family hear and see the progress, they often have ZERO interest in researching and just want a vial...I have sold half of my reta at cost to good friends and coworkers, and I had to reconstitute, sell it to them, provide insulin syringes, and then coach them on what to expect...I label anything I give away as clearly RUO but it's still risky and I don't plan on doing it anymore...
Also, LEARN THE MATH! Do not use calculators until you understand concentration, dilution, and dosing.
I have dyscalculia via a TBI thanks to a drunk driver hitting me while I was legally on a pedestrian crossing.MakeNoPeaceWithEvil said:The only thing I disagree with in this whole thread is to use calculators. I may be alone here but I will die on this hill...LEARN THE MATH! Do not use calculators until you understand concentration, dilution, and dosing.
Biggest lesson learned is telling friends, family, and coworkers. I LOVE helping people but when friends and family hear and see the progress, they often have ZERO interest in researching and just want a vial...I have sold half of my reta at cost to good friends and coworkers, and I had to reconstitute, sell it to them, provide insulin syringes, and then coach them on what to expect...I label anything I give away as clearly RUO but it's still risky and I don't plan on doing it anymore...
Also, LEARN THE MATH! Do not use calculators until you understand concentration, dilution, and dosing.