Test, HGH, Var cycle

[wildweasel]

After losing just over 100lbs last year, my goal this year is to get shredded. I'm currently sitting at 205lbs at approx. 17% bodyfat. I started TRT about 2 months ago and am currently taking 150mg/wk. I am also switching from Tesa/Ipa to HGH when my shipment comes in next month. I went in to my doc to get some bloodwork today and we started talking about my goals and optimization which lead to him writing me a script for a 6 week cycle of 10mg Anavar. So my current plan is to run a 6 week cycle of 6mg/wk Reta (my maintenance dose), 250mg/wk test-c, 4iu/day HGH, and 10mg/day Anavar. Then return to my normal cruise of 150mg test and maybe stay with 1-2iu HGH. This will be my first foray into AAS and was wondering if you guys had any opinions? I'm 42m and my labs are pretty spot on. I was going to ask in MESO but they are ruthless there and will pretty much just tell me I'm wasting my money on a weak cycle, push for increasing everything, and to throw tren in the mix lol.

It’s a good cycle for your first one. Keep hgh low don’t go over 2 yet.

A good addition for you might be proviron. It’s not strongly anabolic at all, but it occupies much of your shbg, leaving most with much for free t

for people in your profile who are heavier, weight and untrained you’re going to likely have lower free testosterone (which has testosterone that can actually have a positive effect on your body) than others. Proviron will help you maximize free t

Little to no sides from proviron, it doesn’t hurt your liver, kidneys or raise blood pressure or hurt, lipids or anything

 

[wildweasel]

I'm only at 12% bf and still seem to aromatize like crazy. I've been looking at Primo, but there has been a raws shortage for almost a year now and like 90% of what is out there is actually Mast or EQ. What little real primo that can be found is usually highly underdosed.

No problems getting primo on my ended, tested my last batch via jano

 

[Rezwalker]

Starting My var cycle next week !

Started trt last March( now at 200mg weekly)

Hgh 2 weeks ago at 2ui daily

im at 9% Bf

Goal are palpable and in sight !!!!!!

 

[sfkid]

No problems getting primo on my ended, tested my last batch via jano

You in the moode to share the source

 

[Tbagger]

2 weeks into my 12 week bulk cycle. Gains a lot of water weight and I’m sure a little lean mass. So far 10 lbs up. Pumps are good and I’m lifting a bit heavier. Overall feel ung pretty good! Not really liking the softer look but it comes with the territory. Sleep is still my biggest problem area and is holding me back. I’m yrying to work on that though. I’m gonna finish out this bulk, then gaintain through the holidays. After that I’ll get hitting a hard cut before my Hawaiian wedding this spring.

Test-c 400mg

NPP 200mg

Mast 200mg

Reta 2mg

Hgh 3iu daily

 

[Throttle883]

I am taking both NAC and TUDCA along with milk thistle and glutathione.

Maybe I missed it… I apologize if I did. Are you taking any statins or Ezetimibe for LDL? Meso (Ghoul) wants it 40. I’m game. I’m currently at 117. I started Rosuvastatin.

What has glutathione done for you?

Any other real noticeable issues with 10mg Anavar during this cycle?

I’ve had a liver ultrasound (all good), just had pet stress scan yesterday, all my bloods, and just rechecked my prostate. I’m waiting on results.

I’m not starting anything until it’s all perfect.

.75 TRT

2iu GH

3.5 Tirz

1 Reta

You look great BTW… proud for you!

 

[Tbagger]

Maybe add omega 3? I have prescription grade Omega 3

Yeah, I take plenty. This is my current support supplement stack. So all the shit that’s not AAS or Peptides.

Tadalafil 5mg

Men’s one a day multivitamin

Protein powder 50g-100g

Creatine 5g-10g

Collagen peptide 10g-15g

Calcium HMB 1000mg (muscle protection)

DHM 350mg (liver support)

Lions Mane 500mg (cognition support)

Omega-3 2400mg (everything)

Methylene Blue 10mg (cognition)

Ashwaganda 600mg (cortisol reduction)

B complex (metabolic health)

TMG 750mg (cardiovascular support)

CoQ10 400mg (organ health)

L-Methylfolate 1mg (cellular health)

NAC 600mg (liver/kidney health)

Vitamin C 1000mg (everything)

Zinc 45mg (metabolic support)

Citrus Bergamot 1200mg (lipid support)

P-5-P 100mg (prolactin reduction)

Magnesium Glycinate 400mg (stress/sleep)

Red yeast rice 1200mg (lipid support)

TUDCA 500mg (liver support)

Milk Thistle 100g (liver support)

D3 5000iu (skeletal support)

DIM 300mg (e2 reduction)

Mucuna Pririens 1000mg (prolactin reduction)

Taurine 2g-4g (muscle support)

Potassium 2.5g (muscle and bone support)

Ubiquinol 100mg (heart and cardio)

Niacin 1g (lipid support)

My piss has more money in it than my bank account!

 

[sfkid]

I have become an unstoppable machine in the bedroom on this stack. My poor wife needs a break! I think the addition of mast helps with the mental sides. Mast is pretty well known as a happy compound and I have to agree. I feel amazing both physically and mentally.

Only thing I'm not liking is the softer look from the extra fluid retention and probably a couple % of BF. But I'm going on a steep cut directly after this bulk. I'm shooting for around 215lbs at 10% by the end of September. End goal is 225 at 10 but I think that's a few bulk/cut cycles away.

And yeah, I test for prolactin on all my tests because it's cheap and a good thing to keep an eye on. I'm getting a mid cycle draw at the end of the week to see where I'm at on everything. If your interested, this is my normal lab order.

Thanks for additional info. Forgot to ask how's your e2 holding up? Are you taking an AI?

 

[Tbagger]

So 6 weeks in had to drop the NPP. It’s fuckin my head up. It’s making me super emotional and fucking with my relationship. I get easily hurt and sad over every little thing, I’m suspicious of infidelity with my fiancé even though she has never given me any reason to mistrust her. I’m having panic attacks over everything. It’s crazy! I know it’s the drugs but that knowledge still doesn’t help me pull out of it. So I dropped it and it should be mostly out of my system in a week or so. But since I’m only 1/2 way through my bulk, I bumped up the test to 500 and mast to 350. Also completely dropped the Reta because eating 4000 calories a day is HARD! Gains are slow because of my inability to eat enough and shitty sleep. But slow is better than nothing. 6 more weeks until I cut and I never thought I’d look forward to dieting but I’m sick of stuffing myself!

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[Tbagger]

400 test 300npp 200 mast. It was going great until week 5. Then my girl and I got in an unrelated argument. It only lasted a couple hours but sent me into a spiral. I’ve been trying to keep it together but have been driving my girl crazy with how easily my feeling are getting hurt and my constant need for emotional support. I must be sensitive to 19NOR’s because I feel like I’m turning into a whiny little bitch lol. My E2 is 76 and my prolactin is 35. So nothing crazy, especially with mast helping mitigate the E2 sides. I think I’ll skip the 19NOR’s in the future and stick to mast, primo, and EQ.

 

[lastresort]

400 test 300npp 200 mast. It was going great until week 5. Then my girl and I got in an unrelated argument. It only lasted a couple hours but sent me into a spiral. I’ve been trying to keep it together but have been driving my girl crazy with how easily my feeling are getting hurt and my constant need for emotional support. I must be sensitive to 19NOR’s because I feel like I’m turning into a whiny little bitch lol. My E2 is 76 and my prolactin is 35. So nothing crazy, especially with mast helping mitigate the E2 sides. I think I’ll skip the 19NOR’s in the future and stick to mast, primo, and EQ.

why aren't you taking more AI? I m taking 0.5mg anastrozole every 3 day for my T (700mg/week) Propionate. It's been working well so far.

 

[Tbagger]

why aren't you taking more AI? I m taking 0.5mg anastrozole every 3 day for my T (700mg/week) Propionate. It's been working well so far.

Because I can normally handle up to around 100 E2 and the combination of my E2 side resilience and Mast makes me think think it's more of a 19NOR problem than just an E2 issue. I prefer to run higher E2 than most people because it is amazing at building muscle, even better than test. I can blast test with the best of them and feel nothing but superhuman. This is my first cycle of Nandralone (and probably my last) and this is the first time I've experienced this kind of mental side,. Also 19NOR's are well known for their mental side effects because it's one of the few compounds that crosses the blood brain barrier.

 

[sfkid]

I prefer to run higher E2 than most peo

Ahmen , I run at 80 and I love it.

Every noob what's to jump on AI as soon as it climbs above some stated number.

If you have no side effects no need for any AI....

 

[Tbagger]

Ahmen , I run at 80 and I love it.

Every noob what's to jump on AI as soon as it climbs above some stated number.

If you have no side effects no need for any AI....

Yeah, I have no idea why people start popping AI's like chicklet's when their E2 even slightly elevates.

 

[Skidude]

Yeah, I have no idea why people start popping AI's like chicklet's when their E2 even slightly elevates.

I bought Anastrozole when I bought my first oils. But have never used any of it.

My fear on E2 is: growing a Sydney Sweeney rack.. well and the sides that seem to come with it.

I chose to do multiple doses per week while using ethanoate, hoping to avoid E2 spikes.

I also waited until I was at normal BMI to start, in hopes of minimizing my chances of E2 issues.

So far I have been lucky, or at least believe that is the case. I should probably start a thread on some of my concerns, you guys have a wealth of knowledge and my personal research is likely lacking.

 

[Tbagger]

I bought Anastrozole when I bought my first oils. But have never used any of it.

My fear on E2 is: growing a Sydney Sweeney rack.. well and the sides that seem to come with it.

I chose to do multiple doses per week while using ethanoate, hoping to avoid E2 spikes.

I also waited until I was at normal BMI to start, in hopes of minimizing my chances of E2 issues.

So far I have been lucky, or at least believe that is the case. I should probably start a thread on some of my concerns, you guys have a wealth of knowledge and my personal research is likely lacking.

Sounds like you are on top of things and doing it smartly. Gyno is usually the top concern for most guys, but IMO lipids and hematocrit is much more of a concern while taking AAS's (including TRT) because gyno wont kill you. Always have any ancillaries you might possibly need on hand but only use them if needed. Taking multiple pins a week is always advisable. I prefer daily pins to keep the most stable levels, especially important when on a blast, but it's not always a viable option for people.

 

[Gt3294a]

Because I can normally handle up to around 100 E2 and the combination of my E2 side resilience and Mast makes me think think it's more of a 19NOR problem than just an E2 issue. I prefer to run higher E2 than most people because it is amazing at building muscle, even better than test. I can blast test with the best of them and feel nothing but superhuman. This is my first cycle of Nandralone (and probably my last) and this is the first time I've experienced this kind of mental side,. Also 19NOR's are well known for their mental side effects because it's one of the few compounds that crosses the blood brain barrier.

I love deca. But I feel like everybody that has done for many years, eventually gets some issue with it. Mine was both mental and the little guy. But still love it (that took like 6 weeks to resolve). The e2 comments are dead on. I have Armidex, aromasin, novadex, and caber (some say could take to fix deca issue but debatable), and have only taken low (like .125 Armidex) for a few weeks here and there. The old adage is treat e2 symptoms, not the numbers. I only have 2 cents, so there it is.

 

[Tbagger]

I love deca. But I feel like everybody that has done for many years, eventually gets some issue with it. Mine was both mental and the little guy. But still love it (that took like 6 weeks to resolve). The e2 comments are dead on. I have Armidex, aromasin, novadex, and caber (some say could take to fix deca issue but debatable), and have only taken low (like .125 Armidex) for a few weeks here and there. The old adage is treat e2 symptoms, not the numbers. I only have 2 cents, so there it is.

I was expecting some ED issues but my libido skyrocketed and I had no performance issues. Only thing I experienced was that it became very hard to finish, to the point that I would usually give up after an hour or so. I was not expecting that, but as far as AAS sides go, impressive bedroom performance isn't really on my things to be concerned about. lmao

 

[lastresort]

Because I can normally handle up to around 100 E2 and the combination of my E2 side resilience and Mast makes me think think it's more of a 19NOR problem than just an E2 issue. I prefer to run higher E2 than most people because it is amazing at building muscle, even better than test. I can blast test with the best of them and feel nothing but superhuman. This is my first cycle of Nandralone (and probably my last) and this is the first time I've experienced this kind of mental side,. Also 19NOR's are well known for their mental side effects because it's one of the few compounds that crosses the blood brain barrier.

Maybe cabergoline?

 

[Tbagger]

Maybe cabergoline?

That is for emergency use only. My prolactin wasn't very high and taking caber will fuck you up. It's a dopamine receptor agonist, so a big problem is that coming off of it can cause severe mental sides including depression and suicidal thoughts/desires. It's not a ancillary med to take unless you absolutely need to tank your prolactin fast.