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Smiter said:
Yes...my previous Var cycle. I ended up with acne on my head..Then did PCT with anastrazole. Then tamoxifen. yeah dont do TRT yet. We will do it together...fight till the end. Now I am doing Var with anastrazole amidst the cycle.
Nice, I got enclo and tamoxifen
 
Mr. Blonde said:
Nice, I got enclo and tamoxifen
Then all you need is anastrazole, and you can do the JCVD booty shake a la Kickboxer.

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miameow said:
If your sole purpose is just getting summer ready, the last thing I would consider is thyroid meds. You can try low dose reta, test, gh (or tesa), mots c; there are so many other safer and more effective options.

I have been on and off t4 and t3 and it's not something you just hop on to get shredded when you are otherwise healthy.
I take 60mg daily of Selenomethionine. My thyroid levels were normal but I am trying to optimize, I been on it for little over 3 weeks so far so good. In the beginning I was cautious if I should because levels were normal so after couple days I stopped and did notice a mood change. I continued the medication again after a few days. I feel better on it.

Also my DHEA levels were low so I started a low dose 15mg every other day, that lasted about a week because of irritability and mood. I no longer take that
 
Mr. Blonde said:
Nice, I got enclo and tamoxifen
I second what Smiter says. Grab an AI. When I ran Enclo, it doubled my T but gave me high E2 symptoms.

I didnt need a Rx AI tho, i was able to get buy with Arimistane from Hi-Tech Pharmaceuticals. 25mg 2x daily literally reduced my E2 levels to baseline. Heres a chart if you are interested of how it worked for me: [archived internal link]
 
wildweasel said:
I second what Smiter says. Grab an AI. When I ran Enclo, it doubled my T but gave me high E2 symptoms.

I didnt need a Rx AI tho, i was able to get buy with Arimistane from Hi-Tech Pharmaceuticals. 25mg 2x daily literally reduced my E2 levels to baseline. Heres a chart if you are interested of how it worked for me: [archived internal link]
I would use both Anastrazole and Tamoxifen to attack the estrogen skanks from different directions. One prevents the conversion of other hormones into estro, and the other competes for the attention of receptors. A double whammy if you will, mainly to prevent sides from all soy-boy entourage members.
 
You guys are very knowledgeable. I appreciate all the advice. I'm not a bodybuilder so don't really want to pin compounds. Just a little oral only anavar (with ancillaries) like once a year before summer. Maybe 6-8 weeks.
 
Mr. Blonde said:
You guys are very knowledgeable. I appreciate all the advice. I'm not a bodybuilder so don't really want to pin compounds. Just a little oral only anavar (with ancillaries) like once a year before summer. Maybe 6-8 weeks.
Errr...you see, dude...those are all orals.
 
Mr. Blonde said:
I know. I was complementing the recommendations for my oral only cycle.
Ah okay, just remember.. You get newb gains only once in your life, so the choice is yours. I am so against IM shots..I just cant stand pain. But somatomedin and MGF's are certainly mega-complementary to Var.
 
Smiter said:
Ah okay, just remember.. You get newb gains only once in your life, so the choice is yours. I am so against IM shots..I just cant stand pain. But somatomedin and MGF's are certainly mega-complementary to Var.
Never messed with mgfs. Tell me more!
 
Mr. Blonde said:
Never messed with mgfs. Tell me more!
IGF-1 aka Somatomedin is the biggest driver of muscle growth but it is a competitor for insulin's effect on glucose. MGF is the spliced part that drives growth. PEG-MGF is the long lasting version of it that can boost muscle growth consistently and aid in weight/fat loss. you can pin it subq on the stomach- no pain..no effect on endogenous hormones
 
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