SS-31 + MOTs-C vs NAD+

[bogardbilla]

NAD+ IM injections have been a game changer for me, however.

So how does one inject NAD+ IM? Is it like directly into your thigh muscle or something?

 

[tendency]

So how does one inject NAD+ IM? Is it like directly into your thigh muscle or something?

Yes, for me. I have next to no fat on my legs (they're kinda like the back of you hand fat wise) so it's very easy for me to do IM to the upper outside quad. I use a 30g needle.

 

[bogardbilla]

Yes, for me. I have next to no fat on my legs (they're kinda like the back of you hand fat wise) so it's very easy for me to do IM to the upper outside quad. I use a 30g needle.

Do you flex the muscle so you know where to pin? I'm gonna try it for my next pin.

 

[tendency]

Do you flex the muscle so you know where to pin? I'm gonna try it for my next pin.

No, you don't want to flex the muscle as you're injecting. Keep it soft and jiggly. I inject about 2/3 of the way up the quad towards the outside of the muscle.

I'm sure there are a number of good YT vids on how to IM to the quad.

 

[Slogger]

Yes, for me. I have next to no fat on my legs (they're kinda like the back of you hand fat wise) so it's very easy for me to do IM to the upper outside quad. I use a 30g needle.

I would consider pinning upper outside quad but I am a runner (see ‘Slogger’ username) and I’m concerned pinning 3 times a week would maybe be a problem. I’ll do more research and watch some YouTube vids too. I have done upper buttock and that was fine so there’s that.

 

[tendency]

I would consider pinning upper outside quad but I am a runner (see ‘Slogger’ username) and I’m concerned pinning 3 times a week would maybe be a problem. I’ll do more research and watch some YouTube vids too. I have done upper buttock and that was fine so there’s that.

Should be fine, at least that's been my experience. I was a serious bicyclist for many years and used to pin IM a couple times/week and never had any quad issues.

 

[HereKittyKitty]

I cannot IM. No way. Absolutely not. SC with a baby needle is stressful enough.

 

[PinKushn]

So how does one inject NAD+ IM? Is it like directly into your thigh muscle or something?

This uses an oil but the idea is the same. Also I learned a trick that if you cough at the the same time as insertion you don't feel a thing. Thigh IM Injection

 

[randompersonrandom]

I cannot IM. No way. Absolutely not. SC with a baby needle is stressful enough.

Same. No IM, no IV, no internasal. subq, fine, I feel like the damage I could potentially do to myself there is limited, but the risks for anything else seem beyond what I'm comfortable with.

 

[HereKittyKitty]

Same. No IM, no IV, no internasal. subq, fine, I feel like the damage I could potentially do to myself there is limited, but the risks for anything else seem beyond what I'm comfortable with.

100% this. And if there's damage to do, I'll somehow manage to get it done.

 

[Dmac12]

Do any of you notice having more dreams when taking RETA? I hope this doesn't last long because they are not always pleasant dreams, and I remember them too long.

Lol I wasn't attributing to reta but definitely dreaming more. Lol it was a recurring dream with a cat lazing around infront of a bear until I almost got caught. It got caught a couple of nights a go and nothing since. Can't remember the last dream I had that I remember. Anyway probably not Reta related but who knows

 

[RetaScrub]

Pretty much the same. MOTSc areas needed to be alternated due it ISRs. I mainly used glute area for MOTSc and 1/2 pin. The ISRs weren’t too bad for me. Small welts and some itchiness. And yes..SubQ.

Does it seem like your research subject experienced lasting benefits after completing the protocol, or was it a sharp return to pre-protocol baseline?

 

[Itankstuff]

I just did MOTS-C alone and it feels very similar to my Vyvanse, but more wakeful and clear. I have SS-31 but didn't use it. I also didn't stack with NAD+.

 

[HereKittyKitty]

I just did MOTS-C alone and it feels very similar to my Vyvanse, but more wakeful and clear. I have SS-31 but didn't use it. I also didn't stack with NAD+.

I don't know what Vyvanse is or how it makes a person feel... Help?

 

[Nopenada]

I don't know what Vyvanse is or how it makes a person feel... Help?

It is a stimulant ADHD medication. Makes the user with ADHD slightly more energetic but also more calm and able to focus with less distractibility.

Not everyone taking MOTS-C (or any other pep for that matter) will get the same thing out of it.

 

[HereKittyKitty]

Thank you.

 

[Gigachad]

Boutta run SS 31+ MOTS C soon

Fingers crossed

Also new research suggests SS-31 doesn't need to be run prior to running MOTS C and both can be run together simultaneously.

 

[VegetableIce]

Do any of you notice having more dreams when taking RETA? I hope this doesn't last long because they are not always pleasant dreams, and I remember them too long.

I do experience this, my dreams are way more vivid than before. But not in a bad way tbh.

 

[Fait88]

First time i will be dosing SS-31, planning to take 2mg daily for 4 weeks while taking 50mg NAD+ for 6 days.

On the 5th week, ill switch SS-31 to Mots-c 10mg 3x per week? Would this be a good protocol to follow?

I have been taking NAD+ already previously.

Asked GPT to make an infograph with that.

 

[darminayd]

74 year old male. My research is to follow the 14 week mitochondria protocol for molecular repair and enhancement. After that, my research will be 6 weeks on followed by 3 weeks off for a few cycles of GLOW. This will benefit cellular repair and enhancement. Molecular first followed by cellular.

I'm guessing you're almost finished or about to.

Any news to share? I'm 46 and after reading your opinions maybe I'll leave this protocol for when I get older, but it's interesting to know there can be something to restore some vitality (though I'm quite vivid myself, so I don't feel the need really).