Selank + Semax--nasal? Effects?

[Chucky]

Wow, so sorry to hear that, but glad you're still with us. Talk about scary.

If you need that level of brain support I would consider Epitalon first. Check it out and see what you think. Epitalon is like tuning up the engine and Semax is like stepping on the gas. I ran a 20-day cycle of Epitalon, via IN, before Semax because of TBIs and I can feel the improvement.

https://pep-pedia.org/peptides/epitalon

Edit: and you might want to take a look at cerebrolysin also. There is a thread here where it's being discussed and several of us have it on order. I'm just not sure how far down the rabbit hole you want to go

Thanks for the info, I'll definitely have a look into it. Anything to improve the ol grey matter in the long run.

I've also been trying to find somewhere which supplies adamax peptide, but keep coming up short.

 

[yrrdead]

Thanks for the info, I'll definitely have a look into it. Anything to improve the ol grey matter in the long run.

I've also been trying to find somewhere which supplies adamax peptide, but keep coming up short.

I saw it on QYC's price list. No idea if they actually have it or not.

 

[miss-sanne]

I'm considering on trying Semax due to having a cardiac arrest back in September. I was unresponsive for about 14 minutes. As a result I forget things really quickly. Especially when I got back to work this year, I struggled a bit with staying focused and being able to do things on the fly. From what I've read, it'll help with improving my memory and cognitive function.

I'm so sorry to hear that ! I saw you was suggested Epitalon, I started that a few days ago, because of ADD brain. Will be interesting to see.

Let us know how it all works for you, when you have researched it.

 

[john_askins]

Have any of you used these in tandem for the afternoon slump (i.e. i'm fine all day and as soon as 3pm rolls around I can barely keep my eyes open)?

 

[Chili777]

During my Semax cycle, I primarily used it in the morning, but occasionally in the early afternoon to get over the hump. I seem to respond to it very well, so I could still feel it even later at night. If it doesn't effect you quite that much it would be a good choice for early-mid afternoon.

 

[miss-sanne]

When I do Semax in the morning and around 1 pm, I seem to have more energy later in the day.

If I use in the afternoon, it interfers with my sleep and keep me up.

 

[Rhaast]

When I do Semax in the morning and around 1 pm, I seem to have more energy later in the day.

If I use in the afternoon, it interfers with my sleep and keep me up.

This would make sense, Russia was literally designing it so that they could make soldiers that could run on no or minimal sleep and still focus.

 

[Chili777]

Thanks for the info, I'll definitely have a look into it. Anything to improve the ol grey matter in the long run.

I've also been trying to find somewhere which supplies adamax peptide, but keep coming up short.

If you've read about Adamax you know it's the high octane version of Semax. It has a full adamantine group added to NA Semax instead of amine chain. Semax is like 87 octane, NA Semax is 89 and Adamax is like 93. You might try NA Semax first and see how you like it and it also might be easier to find. I might try it at some point, but I also don't want to feel like being launched in space at 67 YO, so I'm on the fence. Some folks here swear by it tho, so there is that.

 

[DjJoshua]

Я спробував. Семакс не дав жодного ефекту. Дозування Селанка 500 мкг

1-2 рази на день давав дуже хороший заспокійливий ефект, особливо натщесерце.

Ефект хороший протягом тижня, потім ефект нульовий.

тобі потрібно зробити перерву на місяць-два, щоб знову щось відчути

Це дуже корисна інформація, дякую.

 

[Hotdaddy444]

Quick update @Chili777: did my first cycle of Semax / Selank using your instructions and couldn’t be happier. I noticed results in brain clarity, recall, and finding words immediately. I did notice that if I tried to double dose in 1 day I’d get a bit glittery, so kept it to 1x per day. I’m about 3 weeks off cycle now and have only lost my words once or twice. Not sure how long the results will last. Thank you so much for holding my hand and making me feel confident.

 

[Chili777]

Quick update @Chili777 : did my first cycle of Semax / Selank using your instructions and couldn’t be happier. I noticed results in brain clarity, recall, and finding words immediately. I did notice that if I tried to double dose in 1 day I’d get a bit glittery, so kept it to 1x per day. I’m about 3 weeks off cycle now and have only lost my words once or twice. Not sure how long the results will last. Thank you so much for holding my hand and making me feel confident.

Fantastic. That's great news! I notice the same thing when I double dose, even though I like it, it keeps me up a bit at night. I've been off for 30 days also, and I got some NA Semax so I'll be doing it all over again soon. For Semax, 20 days on/20 days off is a common protocol, but no more than 30 days on is recommended, due to BDNF sensor overload. With Selank, you can go longer, but a one week break is recommended every 30 days. Another tool for our toolkits!

 

[Hotdaddy444]

What does the NA version offer?

 

[Chili777]

What does the NA version offer?

Higher bioavailability and longer lasting and more Semax goodness. https://pep-pedia.org/peptides/na-semax-amidate

 

[attcbf]

Higher bioavailability and longer lasting and more Semax goodness. https://pep-pedia.org/peptides/na-semax-amidate

Have you started using the NA Semax? Have not yet reconstited mine. Did you use the same protocol re: preparing it as with the regular Semax? Are the effects any different from your prior cycle?

 

[Chili777]

Have you started using the NA Semax? Have not yet reconstited mine. Did you use the same protocol re: preparing it as with the regular Semax? Are the effects any different from your prior cycle?

I have been using it the last week or so, although I've been using it via subq. I wanted to compare them. For IN, I would use the exact same protocol and dosage. The N-Acetyl chain makes it more bioavailable and extends the effects but doesn't make it that much stronger. It's not like 2X. The Pep-pedia even says NA could have a higher dosage, but I find 1 mg works for both. I've been testing 800 mcg-1mg via SQ with NA and find it works well. Good luck.

NA Semax Amidate - Dosing, Side Effects, Stacking & Research | Pep-Pedia

N-Acetyl Semax Amidate is an enhanced and stabilized version of the Russian nootropic peptide Semax. Through acetylation and amidation modifications, it achi...

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[Derbyshire]

Higher bioavailability and longer lasting and more Semax goodness. https://pep-pedia.org/peptides/na-semax-amidate

Hello Chilli, firstly, a lot of your posts are very informative and I gain a lot of information from them so thank you. I know that vendors should not be advertised so not asking for that. I have used a couple from this sites vendor section and all has been positive. None though have N-Acetyl Semax Amidate and N-Acetyl selank Amidate. Did the vendor section suppliers aid in this for you?

 

[Chili777]

Hello Chilli, firstly, a lot of your posts are very informative and I gain a lot of information from them so thank you. I know that vendors should not be advertised so not asking for that. I have used a couple from this sites vendor section and all has been positive. None though have N-Acetyl Semax Amidate and N-Acetyl selank Amidate. Did the vendor section suppliers aid in this for you?

Thank you for that! The vendors with longer product lists tend to have NA Semax and NA Selank. They also may have Adamax, which is also known as NA Semax Adamantane and is even stronger and long lasting, but it slightly harder to find. I have not personally used any of the vendors listed in the forum. If you've gone through all the product lists available here, I would suggest that you search at STG in sources and testing on TG or search the Janoshik site and see what tests there are for the NA versions. Hope that helps.

 

[Derbyshire]

Thank you for that! The vendors with longer product lists tend to have NA Semax and NA Selank. They also may have Adamax, which is also known as NA Semax Adamantane and is even stronger and long lasting, but it slightly harder to find. I have not personally used any of the vendors listed in the forum. If you've gone through all the product lists available here, I would suggest that you search at STG in sources and testing on TG or search the Janoshik site and see what tests there are for the NA versions. Hope that helps.

Thank you for this, I will start my searching. Also looking for Adamax, NA Selanka and NA Epitalon Amidate.

 

[Derbyshire]

Thank you for this, I will start my searching. Also looking for Adamax, NA Selanka and NA Epitalon Amidate.

Quick up date and hope to save time for others. Of all vendors listed here, over 75% have replied back which is very positive, down side, none stock, NA Selank amidate, NA Semax amidate or N-Acetyl Epitalon Amidate. But reading more in other threads gave my direction to find what I needed. Next to keep researching them and their feedback. Thanks again Chill!

 

[yrrdead]

Thank you for that! The vendors with longer product lists tend to have NA Semax and NA Selank. They also may have Adamax, which is also known as NA Semax Adamantane and is even stronger and long lasting, but it slightly harder to find. I have not personally used any of the vendors listed in the forum. If you've gone through all the product lists available here, I would suggest that you search at STG in sources and testing on TG or search the Janoshik site and see what tests there are for the NA versions. Hope that helps.

I've seen single vials on https://maresearchchems.net/product/adamax/ . Expensive though since its single vials but us based for whatever thats worth (less if you are in the UK).