Reta耐受性或退化?

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miameow said:
It's interesting to see a lot of people chiming in with similar experiences. I'm currently on 6mg and there is absolutely zero appetite suppression, and I haven't really lost any weight during this entire journey.. though there's been some recomp since I added gh. The past month has been quite difficult as reta seems to increase my appetite - if left to my own devices, I can eat an entire cake in one sitting. My vial is fresh, m/p/e tested and filtered.

RamCummins6.7 said:
Yea i took 7mg this week and i still get full fast but i also get hungry fast, nothing like that first 4mg dose lol.

miameow said:
Same for me. I am always hungry. I had the strongest suppression at 1mg during the first couple of weeks, and it has never been the same.
How long are you staying on your current doses? I'm a firm believer in 4 weeks on a certain dose. Wait till you hit 8mg, shit happens.
 
I havent been hungry in fifteen weeks! Lmao. Literally started tracking calories (2400) on mfp because people are tantrically chanting cico at me again like they got their matching nike cortez and tracksuits. Gee thanks marshall applewhite. Lol
 
BNLFL said:
How long are you staying on your current doses? I'm a firm believer in 4 weeks on a certain dose. Wait till you hit 8mg, shit happens.
I def jumped up this week sooner than i have been. I was doing about 2 weeks or when hunger and food noise started to return which was about 2 weeks for me at 4 mg
 
I added Cagri a few months ago and have titrated up to 1.7 along with 8mg of reta and I'm still plateaued. I guess I'm not gaining, so that's sort of a win. I don't want to raise the reta because over 8 I start getting side effects. It's tough being a non responder. I'm going the warmer weather helps the calorie burn kick in when I have more to do outside.
 
RamCummins6.7 said:
这周我的确比以往更早地增加了剂量。我之前大约服用两周,或者等到饥饿感和进食反应开始恢复时再增加剂量,对我来说,4毫克剂量大约是两周。
你们很多人都想尽快增加剂量。让最后一剂药物在体内充分积累吧。
 
BNLFL said:
你们很多人都想尽快增加剂量。让最后一剂药物在体内充分积累吧。
完全正确。但我从0.5毫克逐渐增加到4毫克时,4毫克的效果立竿见影。
 
BNLFL said:
你们很多人都想尽快增加剂量。让最后一剂药物在体内充分积累吧。
我每次间隔四周。有一次间隔四周,我就在四周内待了六周,确保自己完全适应。后来间隔四周后,我又出现了一些奇怪的心率异常,于是又换回四周。说实话,我可没像赛车手那样拼命,哈哈。
 
BNLFL said:
你打算服用目前的剂量多久?我坚信某个剂量服用四周效果最佳。等你剂量达到 8 毫克的时候,情况就可能发生变化。
我服用瑞塔已经快6个月了,每个剂量都坚持四周,然后每次增加1毫克。目前是第二周,剂量是6毫克,但感觉噪音和饥饿感比服用瑞塔之前还要强烈得多。

LizzieCherry said:
我刚听了一期 Jay Campbell(MindPump #2500)的播客节目,他说服用高剂量 Reta 时会特别饿,而低剂量效果更好。https ://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/mind-pump-raw-fitness-truth/id954100822? i=1000682068795
嗯,这很有意思。谢谢分享。可惜的是,我觉得现阶段降低剂量对我来说并不是解决办法,但我很快就会换成卡格里(Cagri)。我本来打算最后再给瑞达(Reta)6毫克的剂量试试,但照这个速度下去,我最终会把冰箱、冷冻柜和食品柜里的东西都吃光。
 
LizzieCherry said:
我刚听了一期 Jay Campbell(MindPump #2500)的播客节目,他说服用高剂量 Reta 时会特别饿,而低剂量效果更好。https ://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/mind-pump-raw-fitness-truth/id954100822? i=1000682068795
完全错误。我刚服用了第二剂8毫克,结果食欲全无。跟之前2-6毫克的效果截然不同。我现在还是会吃东西,因为需要吃,而且很快就饱了。
 
根据我目前的情况来看,我的药瓶肯定已经失效了。用苯扎氯铵(BAC)复溶后的瑞达(Reta)在冰箱中妥善保存的话,大约可以保存28-30天。我的药瓶已经过了这个期限,这意味着我需要更高的剂量才能感受到微弱的效果,但这样剂量的效果却不如以前。除非你服用的是大剂量,否则大瓶装的瑞达不适合长期保存。我打算用掉我最后一瓶新的60毫克瑞达,并和妻子一起用,确保它在复溶后的28天内用完。同时,由于新药瓶的药效应该已经恢复到最佳状态,我也会降低我的剂量。之后,我将使用10-20毫克的小瓶装瑞达。
 
UPDATE

So I tossed the rest of my previous 60mg vial and reconned a my last fresh 60mg with 3ml for me and my wife to both use. I pinned 5mg last week and i felt it wayyy more than 6.5mg with the other vial. Badically got everything feeling of it back. Slowing digestion, fuller feeling, lower appetite and the loss of the food noise. My wife is also feeling the same but with some slight nausea after injection. Also still pinning every 6th day.
 
RamCummins6.7 said:
UPDATE

So I tossed the rest of my previous 60mg vial and reconned a my last fresh 60mg with 3ml for me and my wife to both use. I pinned 5mg last week and i felt it wayyy more than 6.5mg with the other vial. Badically got everything feeling of it back. Slowing digestion, fuller feeling, lower appetite and the loss of the food noise. My wife is also feeling the same but with some slight nausea after injection. Also still pinning every 6th day.
Thanks for the update. There are differences between vendors, vials, percentage of fill over and under, and some degradation. I speculate that some Reta products degrade faster than others. The last batch I used was epic good. This batch is from a different vendor and I don't get the same results. I even gained 4 pounds over two weeks on the exact same diet, zero changes.

I increased the dose 1mg. If that does not work, I will try a different vendor that I have in the freezer. And if no results there, I will go back to my original Reta source.

The good news is that I am at my goal weight so plus or minus a few pounds is a non issue. My belt is still on the tightest hole I punched.
 
I've said this about one of my vendors 2 products. R30 and R50. He usually list the manufacturer, and this stuff hits like a train, almost too much. Funny thing, doesn't affect my wife at all.
 
BNLFL said:
I've said this about one of my vendors 2 products. R30 and R50. He usually list the manufacturer, and this stuff hits like a train, almost too much. Funny thing, doesn't affect my wife at all.
My wife just started feeling and it hit her like a freight train. But it’s funny it was the second dose in with the new vial it must have crept up on her. I also had her DOAs every 6 days too. But the little to no appetite and food noise are working which great but i have to remind her to hit her protein for the day.

It’s still kicking for me too. I’m curious to try the Reta from my new batches from new vendors that had excellent reviews and COAs and see if it hits different
 
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