Reconstitution advice

[randompersonrandom]

and they hold EXACTLy thirty vials if you carefully load them in up-and-down beside each other, fifteen to a row,

how many vials fit in one of those thermoses

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[chmuse]

oh my god, I love the idea of using a QR code that links to "Wtf this is." I might steal that from you when I get bored and feel like updating.

It's just so much easier for me to do it that way than having to search for the paper copy. Also, by saving the COA itself, if Jano ever goes down I can still look it up- I don't know if he hosts them indefinitely

 

[deleted.user.18]

I've since updated how I have things stored.

Labels look like this.

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Stashed in hydrapeaks in the freezer with a round ice pack on the top. I get the hydrapeaks from a local discount store that has the seasonal ones for $15. My stuff is terribly unorganized so I just did an inventory and have a notebook with a list of what is in each jar. So I can check my notebook to know which jar to open. I stopped printing out my COA's, instead I upload them to a private discord server where I stash all my useful info. It makes an easily searchable database of the things I have on hand.

Overkill? Probably. Fun to do? Hell yes.

Apparently common enough for a third party insert market. https://a.co/d/dNH9tGW

 

[randompersonrandom]

It's just so much easier for me to do it that way than having to search for the paper copy. Also, by saving the COA itself, if Jano ever goes down I can still look it up- I don't know if he hosts them indefinitely

I have mine saved in a Google drive, but keep a single printout in the jar (even if there were multiple tests) because oh my god, what if I lost my Google drive and all the coa's? I think I could really just write the mg on one of the labels, but so much of how and why I set up my stash is based in fear of loss.

 

[chmuse]

Apparently common enough for a third party insert market. https://a.co/d/dNH9tGW

Yes! You can find lots of indie sellers of them on Etsy too, and they'll customize them for you. The person in my signature- Starlet- is one of them. I'm sure there are a few people on the forum who make them as a hobby, too! 3D printing fun cases and inserts seems to be very popular. All sorts of cool stuff- pen holders, bac cases. Some people even make disability aids that hold things steady while you recon for unsteady or arthritic hands! I know someone made a little device that allows you to attach labels perfectly straight every time.

I have mine saved in a Google drive, but keep a single printout in the jar (even if there were multiple tests) because oh my god, what if I lost my Google drive and all the coa's? I think I could really just write the mg on one of the labels, but so much of how and why I set up my stash is based in fear of loss.

Yup, same. I'll probably save them to my laptop and my external at some point, too. But this is working for me right now, I add the COA to my discord when I buy it or when it becomes available, when I have the product I label it with the QR. I was keeping physical copies in a binder but I don't have a printer so it was getting annoying to find ways to print them out.

The template I use for my labels is basically my failsafe. If the COA is missing or something, I already have the exactly contents right on the vial itself.

 

[spyke65]

I have mine saved in a Google drive, but keep a single printout in the jar (even if there were multiple tests) because oh my god, what if I lost my Google drive and all the coa's? I think I could really just write the mg on one of the labels, but so much of how and why I set up my stash is based in fear of loss.

Yes! This is is why I keep a copy on my iCloud drive, on my local computer drive, and on my reMarkable in my Peptides folder. But now I have a new level of paranoia unlocked. Time to back them up to a thumbdrive.

 

[MisterGeorge]

There is no COA for the R10 yet but both vendor and my group are currently shipping vials in to Janoshik so expect COAs to be ready next month.

My partner and I have been using JEEP R10 the past 3 weeks, both lost 3~5kg now.

This is brilliant news!

 

[MisterGeorge]

No, you don't have to. Clinical trials had them titrate up after 4 weeks.

@MisterGeorge A COA is a test done by a lab to determine how much is in the vial and how pure it is to a reference sample. Most vendors overfill their vials, so your 10mg might end up being close to 15. It's impossible to know exactly how much is in your specific vials, so you go based on COAs and average out from there.

Vendors will send their sample to a lab for testing and will get a report back. They usually send 3 vials. But vendors tend to either lie about the results (fake the COA) or have very old tests. Which is where 3rd party testing comes in. That's where someone like you or me sends a vial or more to a lab and gets the COA themselves and share with the community.

Really helpful. Thank you

 

[MisterGeorge]

The general guidance is that a vial should be tossed out after 30 days. However, this is based on things like vials are mostly used in hospital settings and they may have pinned from that vial fifty times in a month. People who use vials at home, such as insulin, may pull from the vial multiple times a day. With the GLP medication, you are usually only pulling from the vial once a week, so you are far less likely to introduce a contaminant into the vial.

I usually go 6 weeks on a vial and then will toss it. I'm a diabetic though, and I am 55 years old with an autoimmune disease, so I am take a lot of precautions, maybe more than the average person. I have seen others post that they have gone months on the same vial and not had any problems.

I think that what is important is that you decide what your own risk tolerance is and not necessarily base it on what a bunch of randos like me say Thirty days is the general guidance. For me, 45 days is as much risk as I want to take, and although it's a little painful to throw out what is probably still good medicine, I remind myself how cheap these vials actually are.

Great advice, thank you

 

[MisterGeorge]

Also, let me save you some confusion later down the line; as soon as I buy something, I download the COA into a folder where I have my COA's. My naming convention is

batchnumber, whether it's a vendor or volunteer test, vendor, what it is, month and year I bought it, top color, and color of the thermos where I'll be keeping it in the fridge.

so this:

G2025086380vendor_GYC_KLOW80_9-25_pinktops_greenthermo

is what a batch of Klow from GYC I bought in September with pink tops looks like, and it's in a green thermos.

When it gets here, I load it into the thermos and print out all the COA's I have for it and put THAT in the thermos. (stole that part from @chmuse ) Then I label it with what's in it and I'm good. That way, when I go to recon, I've got a clear record of what it is, where it is, and how many mg I should expect are in the vial. I've ALSO got a record of which batches I have, so that if someone gets a test in where "one of GYC's t-30's tested questionable," I can see at a glance in my COA's folder if I've been impacted.

So organised. Thanks for your insight

 

[randompersonrandom]

Yes! This is is why I keep a copy on my iCloud drive, on my local computer drive, and on my reMarkable in my Peptides folder. But now I have a new level of paranoia unlocked. Time to back them up to a thumbdrive.

Look what you did, @chmuse . You got all us high-anxiety people in an arms race of paranoid spiraling.

 

[IshimaruKenta]

And here I am just sticking my vials in a drawer until I'm ready to use. But I do label my pens when I make them.

 

[IshimaruKenta]

Really helpful. Thank you

If you need or want additional help, please feel free to DM me.

 

[chmuse]

Look what you did, @chmuse . You got all us high-anxiety people in an arms race of paranoid spiraling.

I get made fun of for my anxiety over this stuff so often. I didn't mean to rub off on people!

 

[SummerX]

I get made fun of for my anxiety over this stuff so often. I didn't mean to rub off on people!

i like your new pfp, have you settled on one you like yet?

 

[randompersonrandom]

I get made fun of for my anxiety over this stuff so often. I didn't mean to rub off on people!

I will NEVER make fun of you for that. I live in a gorgeously sparkly house of glass!

 

[chmuse]

i like your new pfp, have you settled on one you like yet?

Half the fun is changing it! I think that last one actually lasted the longest, mostly because I haven't been on as much lately. On discord, both my usernames AND profile pictures get changed constantly

 

[MsGizmo]

Individual preference. A lot of what I buy is intended for long-term storage, because it's glp-'1s or things I expect to use a long time and want to protect against unavailability, so I pack three kits into a 13.5 oz food-container thermos, and pack in some silica packets at the top. The thermos is airtight and protects against any temperature swings and with the silica packets, the humidity is pretty controlled. It also makes it very easy to pull what I want without things shuffling around in the freezer; I know if I want klow, I'm looking for a green one, and both the side and the top are labelled so I can spot it quickly. And the thermoses are very compact and easy to pack together, so my space is controlled. Some of them won't be opened for years.

I got mine in a Mr. Beast lunchbox that I bought because I liked the color. One of these days I'm going to take some acetone and remove the logo. Meh. It works.

 

[randompersonrandom]

I got mine in a Mr. Beast lunchbox that I bought because I liked the color. One of these days I'm going to take some acetone and remove the logo. Meh. It works.

after this thread, I looked up Mira's stuff to see whether they really are discontinuing the ones I like (they are), ordered another two-pack just to have them because I'm sure I'll need them someday, then was poking around eBay looking for resellers of different colors before I got ahold of myself. Swear to God my inner magpie is such an ACTIVE and sneaky little bird.