R60 Reconstitution

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Is it safe to recon R60 with 1ml so each 10 units = 6mg? This is my wife's dose and I'm trying to keep it simple for her. Unless it is common for people to add another unit or two and that extra milligram would be way too much. Or would the dose hit the blood stream and not dilute quickly enough and cause a nauseous or other side effect.

I plan on using the R60 when my R40 runs out, so I am not worried about the efficacy of the bottle being in the fridge for an excessive amount of time. I take 8mg. So we'd be going through a bottle in less than 5 weeks.

Or should I just go 3ml. Then 30units would be 6mg. 40units would be 8mg. BAC water is relatively cheap and I have u100 syringes.
 
There's no concern about hitting the bloodstream too fast. You and she will be injecting into subcutaneous fat, from where the medicine will be slowly absorbed into the blood.

I personally like to add a little more BAC just to allow for more accurate dosing. A measurement of 20 units is going to be more accurate than 10. To avoid confusion, I print little tables for myself, showing the number of units that correspond to a given dose. For example:

1.5mg: 5 units

3mg: 10 units

4.5mg: 15 units

6mg: 20 units

...

I keep that little sheet taped to the inside lid of my injection kit.
 
PAPoots said:
I plan on using the R60 when my R40 runs out, so I am not worried about the efficacy of the bottle being in the fridge for an excessive amount of time. I take 8mg. So we'd be going through a bottle in less than 5 weeks.
Thats your answer.. Together you will need 14mg per week. so a 60mg vial will last you 4 weeks. Hence, a 1ml Recon is best.
 
PAPoots said:
Is it safe to recon R60 with 1ml so each 10 units = 6mg? This is my wife's dose and I'm trying to keep it simple for her. Unless it is common for people to add another unit or two and that extra milligram would be way too much. Or would the dose hit the blood stream and not dilute quickly enough and cause a nauseous or other side effect.

I plan on using the R60 when my R40 runs out, so I am not worried about the efficacy of the bottle being in the fridge for an excessive amount of time. I take 8mg. So we'd be going through a bottle in less than 5 weeks.

Or should I just go 3ml. Then 30units would be 6mg. 40units would be 8mg. BAC water is relatively cheap and I have u100 syringes.
Max official dose is 12mg. In the trials, the pens hold 0.5ml, which makes solubility at 24mg/mL. I wouldn't go much beyond that.
 
FartfulCodger said:
Why's that? Just to save BAC?
absolutely not... It's a 60mg vial. The dude and dudette are using 8mg and 6mg per week, respectively, so that's a 14mg per week requirement. Hence in a month, that's 56mg. Therefore, 1ml in a 60mg vial will leave only 4mg remaining with low injection volume. If they have no sides, then lower injection volume should be optimal, right?
 
Do 2 vials at 3ml BAC at 3ml each. Roughly 30 units/3mg for her, 10 shots. You'll pin 40 units/4mg approx 7 shots. Check the vial volume and adjust accordingly. I just did similar with two R50.
 
Smiter said:
Could that be due to the restriction of the pen itself or the actual solubility of the compound?
It could, but we don't know. Seems like the safe thing to do is to copy Lilly.
 
Smiter said:
absolutely not... It's a 60mg vial. The dude and dudette are using 8mg and 6mg per week, respectively, so that's a 14mg per week requirement. Hence in a month, that's 56mg. Therefore, 1ml in a 60mg vial will leave only 4mg remaining with low injection volume. If they have no sides, then lower injection volume should be optimal, right?
The shot amount doesn't change with less/more BAC. It has do with concentrations.
 
I recall reading somewhere that Reta solubility is 20 mg/ml H2O. If correct, 60mg will not all dissolve in 1ml BA water. I would use 3ml for R60.
 
Bioexplorer said:
I recall reading somewhere that Reta solubility is 20 mg/ml H2O. If correct, 60mg will not all dissolve in 1ml BA water. I would use 3ml for R60.
Aah, then that settles it. You will need 3ml minimum
 
Bioexplorer said:
I recall reading somewhere that Reta solubility is 20 mg/ml H2O. If correct, 60mg will not all dissolve in 1ml BA water. I would use 3ml for R60.
i came here to say this sort of thing. 1ml will not dissolve 60mg of any peptide that i am aware of. even with 3ml its going to take a bit of stirring and agitating to remove the floaters
 
I use 3ml with reta and for our tirz go with 2ml, that makes the tirz concentration 30mg per ml and its a lot less to shoot.

IMHO unless you know exactly how much actual reta is in your 60mg vial you could over or underdose yourself. The fill isnt perfect on any of these and wirh a 60mg concentration... personally, lol no thanks.
 
Gr33dyOctopus said:
I use 3ml with reta and for our tirz go with 2ml, that makes the tirz concentration 30mg per ml and its a lot less to shoot.

IMHO unless you know exactly how much actual reta is in your 60mg vial you could over or underdose yourself. The fill isnt perfect on any of these and wirh a 60mg concentration... personally, lol no thanks.
If there is a concern of incorrect dosage, then it makes sense to reconstitute with more BAC to minimize the variance in a single pin-shot.
 
I think 3ml make the most sense. Thanks for the feedback. The volume for a 6 or 8mg shot doesn't matter much. I can see where the more concentrated it is that it might not dilute as well. Glow is the only thing that I have ever pinned that I wish I could dilute more without buying a bigger vial and transferring solutions.

I have a mouse jiggler I use to mix up my stuff. I lay the bottle on its side and it let it roll for a few minutes.
 
In general I reconstitute Reta at 30mg/ml which gets my 9mg in a .3ml syringe, which is one of my typical targets.

There can be issues with higher concentrations like precipitation, ISR, degradation, etc. At least short term, 140mg will dissolve in 1ml.

Bioexplorer said:
I recall reading somewhere that Reta solubility is 20 mg/ml H2O. If correct, 60mg will not all dissolve in 1ml BA water. I would use 3ml for R60.
This isn’t a thing.
 
CoPilot had an interesting response.

Does 60 mg in 3 mL (20 mg/mL) fit the known solubility envelope? ​[archived internal link]
Yes — based on:

A. GLP‑1 analog solubility ranges ​[archived internal link]
20 mg/mL is within the typical solubility range for long‑chain GLP‑1 peptides.

B. Compounding pharmacy disclosures ​[archived internal link]
Several U.S. 503A/503B pharmacies list retatrutide solubility limits between:

15–25 mg/mL (internal stability data)

These are not published in journals, but they are real-world compounding constraints.

C. Community reports ​[archived internal link]
Multiple independent users report:

1 mL cannot dissolve 60 mg

2 mL sometimes dissolves but is slow

3 mL dissolves reliably

This matches expected peptide behavior.

D. No clinical or chemical evidence contradicts 20 mg/mL ​[archived internal link]
 
PAPoots said:
CoPilot had an interesting response.

Does 60 mg in 3 mL (20 mg/mL) fit the known solubility envelope? ​
Yes — based on:

A. GLP‑1 analog solubility ranges ​
20 mg/mL is within the typical solubility range for long‑chain GLP‑1 peptides.

B. Compounding pharmacy disclosures ​
Several U.S. 503A/503B pharmacies list retatrutide solubility limits between:

15–25 mg/mL (internal stability data)

These are not published in journals, but they are real-world compounding constraints.

C. Community reports ​
Multiple independent users report:

1 mL cannot dissolve 60 mg

2 mL sometimes dissolves but is slow

3 mL dissolves reliably

This matches expected peptide behavior.

D. No clinical or chemical evidence contradicts 20 mg/mL ​
🤣🤣🤣 AI hallucinations on peptides. Use at your own risk.
 
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