Qing Li Peptides from the scammers manipulating test results for profit at Finnrisk?

[Gypsyking]

there purity is low , means risk of endotoxins

Can you share some Coa's that prove the purity is low?

From the janoshik test results I've seen they're all around the 99%

I'll get some tests done and post the results in due time.

 

[keangkong]

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Some of their stuff r are rated poorly on fin their purity stuff falls under 98% so leaves more room for impurities

You misunderstand purity percentages if you think that have a higher purity will help you avoid impurities. The percentage refers to the percentage of molecules similar to the target peptide that are actually the exact target molecule. The percentage does not refer to the percentage of what it's the vial that is the target peptide - in actuality, the target peptide is just a small percentage of what's in the vial. Testing companies test for only a few impurities and do so only only upon request. So what the problem with receiving a peptide with a low purity percentage if the quantity of peptide is sufficient? The problem is that poor lypholization may mean your peptides will degrade faster. As to impurities, when you buy grey, the testing does not guarantee an absence of stuff. There may be all types of harmful chemicals in the vial that cannot be detected.

 

[Gypsyking]

You misunderstand purity percentages if you think that have a higher purity will help you avoid impurities. The percentage refers to the percentage of molecules similar to the target peptide that are actually the exact target molecule. The percentage does not refer to the percentage of what it's the vial that is the target peptide - in actuality, the target peptide is just a small percentage of what's in the vial. Testing companies test for only a few impurities and do so only only upon request. So what the problem with receiving a peptide with a low purity percentage if the quantity of peptide is sufficient? The problem is that poor lypholization may mean your peptides will degrade faster. As to impurities, when you buy grey, the testing does not guarantee an absence of stuff. There may be all types of harmful chemicals in the vial that cannot be detected.

I understand the difference between HPLC which is most tests, LAL Endotoxin, ICP-Ms heavy metals test.

Where I misunderstand and need clarification, if a vial is suppose to contain 10mg BPC and a HPLC actually contains 13mg at 99% does that mean the extra 3mg is potential made up of impurities / fillers / harmful chems.

Is that correct?

 

[keangkong]

I understand the difference between HPLC which is most tests, LAL Endotoxin, ICP-Ms heavy metals test.

Where I misunderstand and need clarification, if a vial is suppose to contain 10mg BPC and a HPLC actually contains 13mg at 99% does that mean the extra 3mg is potential made up of impurities / fillers / harmful chems.

Is that correct?

No. The 13 mg is 13 mg of the target peptide. Overfill is good so long as you know about it and reconstitute based upon the actual amount in the vial.

 

[Gypsyking]

Quick update

Friday 19th I paid for the order

Sunday 21st I received tracking number

Thursday 2nd I received my order

Considering I ordered on a Friday and received tracking number Sunday you would asssume it shipped Monday making it 9 days delivery to Aus.

I'll get a few vials sent for testing but they also provided their most recent janoshik testing for each product purchased.

Stella was very quick to reply and happy to answer any questions I had.

Overall experience, I'm very pleased with the outcome.

Can attach photos but not sure that's allowed here.

 

[keangkong]

Quick update

Friday 19th I paid for the order

Sunday 21st I received tracking number

Thursday 2nd I received my order

Considering I ordered on a Friday and received tracking number Sunday you would asssume it shipped Monday making it 9 days delivery to Aus.

I'll get a few vials sent for testing but they also provided their most recent janoshik testing for each product purchased.

Stella was very quick to reply and happy to answer any questions I had.

Overall experience, I'm very pleased with the outcome.

Can attach photos but not sure that's allowed here.

In general, whether allowed or not, it's a good idea not to post photos. I sympathize: I get happy when I see my peptides and I want to post photos. The danger is that customs folks may be reading. We don't want to help them.

I'm glad that you had a positive experience with this vendor.

You did receive a fair amount of ribbing based upon how you chose to make your purchase. That's probably a good thing. It will keep you skeptical. Thanks for hanging in there and continuing to post.

 

[Ted R]

I’ve bought off them several times with no real issues. The rep that I deal with is DraLene and the communication is at times miserable but have always received my order in a timely fashion.

How did your third party tests come out on what you bought? How big a group did you find to test with?

 

[bigbromx]

Test it bro

 

[BigGuy73]

How did your third party tests come out on what you bought? How big a group did you find to test with?

I never did any third party testing.

 

[miss-sanne]

Nobody knows if someone paid someone, to get good coa's on a website. Not that I know, but the scammers manipulating test results for profit at Finnrisk is questionable.

And they have some bad COA's too.

I wouldn't buy from those results.

But tell us how it goes.

 

[Gypsyking]

Nobody knows if someone paid someone, to get good coa's on a website. Not that I know, but the scammers manipulating test results for profit at Finnrisk is questionable.

And they have some bad COA's too.

I wouldn't buy from those results.

But tell us how it goes.

3 things here.

1) Check SSA results on Finnricks (well known company here and they've got plenty of trash results for simple things like not labeling their vials or less then 98%)

2) Do your due diligence, find the the company mentioned and ask for their Janoshik test results and then compare to the actual janoshik website to find out if they're legit.

3) If you're considering buying get it tested yourself or there's plenty of groups that group test.

 

[Gypsyking]

No. The 13 mg is 13 mg of the target peptide. Overfill is good so long as you know about it and reconstitute based upon the actual amount in the vial.

So how do you know the purity is low and full of endotoxins then? Are you relying on finnricks testing? Or have you done any tests yourself? Or are you simple just assuming because you have zero knowledge of the company?

Most peptides finnricks tested lose points for the simple fact they aren't labelled which is basically all Chinese peptides. Generally they're all overfilled which apparently is a good thing if known about.

This whole post has been made an absolute joke of but it seems no one's actually gone out of their way and done any real research!

Another thing. All these "vendors" you buy from that you think are safe, most of them are produced from the same factory if you haven't already figured that out. All these vendors are are a distributor.

Fed up with the know it alls. Do your own damn research before pretending you know what the f....k you're talking about.

 

[Gypsyking]

Nobody knows if someone paid someone, to get good coa's on a website. Not that I know, but the scammers manipulating test results for profit at Finnrisk is questionable.

And they have some bad COA's too.

I wouldn't buy from those results.

But tell us how it goes.

And You're on here raving about shit you know f..k all about. SSA was one of the most trusted sources.

 

[keangkong]

So how do you know the purity is low and full of endotoxins then? Are you relying on finnricks testing? Or have you done any tests yourself? Or are you simple just assuming because you have zero knowledge of the company?

Most peptides finnricks tested lose points for the simple fact they aren't labelled which is basically all Chinese peptides. Generally they're all overfilled which apparently is a good thing if known about.

This whole post has been made an absolute joke of but it seems no one's actually gone out of their way and done any real research!

Another thing. All these "vendors" you buy from that you think are safe, most of them are produced from the same factory if you haven't already figured that out. All these vendors are are a distributor.

Fed up with the know it alls. Do your own damn research before pretending you know what the f....k you're talking about.

You seem quite angry about what I said. However, your post didn't seem to address what I actually wrote. While you accuse me of having done no research, I have read posts by Peptide Tests and Janoshik explaining how to read a COA from them. Do you want me to start testing these in my own laboratory? That's a task for which I'd be wholly unqualified.

 

[Gypsyking]

You seem quite angry about what I said. However, your post didn't seem to address what I actually wrote. While you accuse me of having done no research, I have read posts by Peptide Tests and Janoshik explaining how to read a COA from them. Do you want me to start testing these in my own laboratory? That's a task for which I'd be wholly unqualified.

Maybe you've caught me on a bad day. Sorry about that. My original reply was suppose to be to vishy.

I've copped it from pillar to post about this vendor and all I asked was for anyone else experiences.

As a community, pretty piss poor behaviour.

Every single person here is taking risk buying in the grey market. Everyone quick to atttack without doing any research. Seems to be the world we live in now a days.

 

[byefatlicia]

As a community, pretty piss poor behaviour.

Every single person here is taking risk buying in the grey market. Everyone quick to atttack without doing any research.

My Pop used to say: "Why did you ask my opinion when you already made your mind up what your'e gonna do? Were you trying to get my blessing and got angry with me when I disagreed?"

You are right. None of us have done the research. I'm sorry to have given my input. I'm not a scientist. I'm not qualified.

Time to stop getting angry and just do what you want.

 

[Gypsyking]

My Pop used to say: "Why did you ask my opinion when you already made your mind up what your'e gonna do? Were you trying to get my blessing and got angry with me when I disagreed?"

You are right. None of us have done the research. I'm sorry to have given my input. I'm not a scientist. I'm not qualified.

Time to stop getting angry and just do what you want.

You've missed the point completely.

I asked for anyone else's experiences if any not a judgement on how I found the company.

I think you're right, if you haven't done any research, looked into the company and checked their testing yourself maybe keep your opinion to yourself also

 

[ZippityDooDah]

I asked for anyone else's experiences if any not a judgement on how I found the company.

How you found the company is part of other people's experiences, and people's experiences with Finnrocks tend to suggest that they are not a trustworthy source for vendor info so you really can't be upset with people trying to HELP you by suggesting you consider other avenues as a source for finding vendors.

 

[Gypsyking]

How you found the company is part of other people's experiences, and people's experiences with Finnrocks tend to suggest that they are not a trustworthy source for vendor info so you really can't be upset with people trying to HELP you by suggesting you consider other avenues as a source for finding vendors.

Can appreciate that.

 

[chmuse]

You've missed the point completely.

I asked for anyone else's experiences if any not a judgement on how I found the company.

I think you're right, if you haven't done any research, looked into the company and checked their testing yourself maybe keep your opinion to yourself also

Hey,

One of the reasons SSA was trusted is there has been EXTENSIVE testing on their product. I'd say their testing is on par with most of the bigger vendors- QSC back in the day, SRY, even Nexa. The COA's are often not posted here, since people tend to do group testing and do not want to share a test they funded to people who did not contribute. I've joined many of those tests myself; it's not uncommon for the rule to be results are not released unless something dangerous is found.

For your future reference, endotoxin testing has largely been found to be a waste of time and money. As far as I'm aware, an unsafe level has not ever been found.

Sterility is also largely a waste of time.

Mass and purity are usually done in the same test, so if you test for mass you will also receive a purity score. I'd consider doing some research into what purity means in the case of our research; it's largely a useless number used for marketing and to make us feel good. It only measures how much of the product similar to what we are testing for is actually the product. If they aren't testing for arsenic, they won't find the arsenic.

the scammers manipulating test results for profit at Finnrisk is not how I'd suggest finding a vendor in the future, but I'm glad it's worked out for you! I would search for some of the interviews Peptide Test and Janoshik have done to better understand the science behind testing, and why not all labs are equal.