Peps and Horses

[bk0004]

Just curious if anyone has experience with protocols for horses? What did you administer and did you notice any benefits/side effects?

Edit: to clarify - giving peps TO a horse. I'm not interested in pinning horse meds.

Thanks!

 

[randompersonrandom]

...are horses getting fat too? This is new information to me.

 

[Chili777]

Just curious if anyone has experience with protocols for horses? What did you administer and did you notice any benefits/side effects?

Edit: to clarify - giving peps TO a horse. I'm not interested in pinning horse meds.

Thanks!

Oh, you and @FarmgirlRebel need to talk for sure. She'll be along.

 

[bk0004]

...are horses getting fat too? This is new information to me.

I do have one fat pony! But no, not glps.

More looking at things for the performance horses. Think joint support, anti-inflammatory, promoting healing.

 

[FarmgirlRebel]

Oh, you and @FarmgirlRebel need to talk for sure. She'll be along.

I'll be back later in the evening. Right now I'm at a racetrack watching Skijoring!

Oh, you and @FarmgirlRebel need to talk for sure. She'll be along.

Iam pinning a couple horses. I'll be back to discuss later. Im at a racetrack watching skijoring!

 

[Chili777]

I'll be back later in the evening. Right now I'm at a racetrack watching Skijoring!

Iam pinning a couple horses. I'll be back to discuss later. Im at a racetrack watching skijoring!

I've seen that! It's a blast. If I was younger, I'd try it.

 

[FarmgirlRebel]

At 61 I gave it a whirl...Just slow speed lol

 

[FarmgirlRebel]

Just curious if anyone has experience with protocols for horses? What did you administer and did you notice any benefits/side effects?

Edit: to clarify - giving peps TO a horse. I'm not interested in pinning horse meds.

Thanks!

I have started a rescue mare and an older gelding here on BPC-157 and TB500.

They have only been on this for about a week...so nothing seen at this time.

While horses weigh in averaging 5x the weight of an average human, I did not 5x the dose.

I started both horses with one peptide, BPC157 and ran that starting at 500mcg everyday for 3 days and bumped up to 1mg everday... I just layered in TB500, started at 5mg 2x a week, for only a couple days now.

What I'm hoping for is both tissue and tendon support, as my older gelding has a bit of stringhalt and arthritic, but not horrible on either (I give Adequan injections during summer ride season as well)...My rescue mare came to me very thin and damaged, she is doing great, but she as well has an injury in her right hock, that I'm hoping will heal up and settle.

I'm thinking of also bringing in KPV for her as well, she is having some real issues with her gut and I think this would pair well with the BPC, but I have to do some more research on it and may just run it alone, but I haven't made up my mind.

I know a lot of performance barns are using BPC and TB...but BPC is a banned substance in some of the WADA and other sports industry, I think racing as well. Shame, because these don't have nearly the side effects on gut health that Butte has.

 

[bk0004]

I have started a rescue mare and an older gelding here on BPC-157 and TB500.

They have only been on this for about a week...so nothing seen at this time.

While horses weigh in averaging 5x the weight of an average human, I did not 5x the dose.

I started both horses with one peptide, BPC157 and ran that starting at 500mcg everyday for 3 days and bumped up to 1mg everday... I just layered in TB500, started at 5mg 2x a week, for only a couple days now.

What I'm hoping for is both tissue and tendon support, as my older gelding has a bit of stringhalt and arthritic, but not horrible on either (I give Adequan injections during summer ride season as well)...My rescue mare came to me very thin and damaged, she is doing great, but she as well has an injury in her right hock, that I'm hoping will heal up and settle.

I'm thinking of also bringing in KPV for her as well, she is having some real issues with her gut and I think this would pair well with the BPC, but I have to do some more research on it and may just run it alone, but I haven't made up my mind.

I know a lot of performance barns are using BPC and TB...but BPC is a banned substance in some of the WADA and other sports industry, I think racing as well. Shame, because these don't have nearly the side effects on gut health that Butte has.

Thanks for the info! Hopefully you see some improvement in your mare and gelding.

I have a few different horses I thought might benefit, but my main concern right now is my 16yo gelding.

He had EPM pretty bad a few years ago. It caused significant muscle atrophy and neurological symptoms. We treated him for the EPM (he stays on a maintenance dose of EPM meds now) and did physical therapy, supplements, etc and he's improved greatly but not back to 100%.

I want to give him a little more support, especially his joints. He used to get steroid and HA hock+stifle injections every 6 months, but can't tolerate the steroids anymore after the EPM.

He still events but just local right now, nothing rated at the moment. So banned substances aren't really a concern.

 

[FarmgirlRebel]

Thanks for the info! Hopefully you see some improvement in your mare and gelding.

I have a few different horses I thought might benefit, but my main concern right now is my 16yo gelding.

He had EPM pretty bad a few years ago. It caused significant muscle atrophy and neurological symptoms. We treated him for the EPM (he stays on a maintenance dose of EPM meds now) and did physical therapy, supplements, etc and he's improved greatly but not back to 100%.

I want to give him a little more support, especially his joints. He used to get steroid and HA hock+stifle injections every 6 months, but can't tolerate the steroids anymore after the EPM.

He still events but just local right now, nothing rated at the moment. So banned substances aren't really a concern.

The fact that you have been able to treat EPM for so long is wonderful. My friend's horse recently lost her battle with a very long and very expensive treatment that just failed in the end.

I look at it this way, the safety profile on BPC and TB are really good in all animal studies, I don't even know of a lethal dose for these two peptides...I figured, it can't hurt to try and just might help! I know some racing barns are using this on the off season or when a horse is pulled out of racing for rest/layup, but honestly, it's stupid that it can't be used all the time, so much safer than the NSAIDs they approve of. I think it's probably because not everyone has access and it isn't a drug that is patented, pharma runs deep in the animal world as well.