Overweight TRT Considerations

[msyntakz]

I'll have my ~8 week labs for the increase Monday week.

Following you, as I'm keen to hear your changes with that dose increase. I know our biology is all unique, but still interesting to see other people's experiences.

 

[Smiter]

That can't be surprising to you? I'm also injecting SQ.

I get soreness in my quads doing IM, even with a 29g.

Buddy, dont even get me started on that. All my gear-life, I had to deal with IM, and Fvck it to hell is what I will say. Even last year, one last shot gave me such a painful lump on the arse that I ended up inventing some new curse words. If subQ is legit in terms of effects, I need to know everything. I will research the fvck out of it, even more than the deep dive I did in the Mitrokhin archives case.

 

[woundcarping]

Buddy, dont even get me started on that. All my gear-life, I had to deal with IM, and Fvck it to hell is what I will say. Even last year, one last shot gave me such a painful lump on the arse that I ended up inventing some new curse words. If subQ is legit in terms of effects, I need to know everything. I will research the fvck out of it, even more than the deep dive I did in the Mitrokhin archives case.

In 2021 I stopped doing TRT after 3 weeks of doing IM because of the soreness and needle anxiety.

I've injected SQ since mid January. 8 week labs for test came back fantastic everything test related except my DHT was low. Went from 120mg/week to 180mg/week to see if I can get the DHT up without having to donate.

SQ's main limitation is injection volume. I do 3x/week splits for my dosing which works fine for me. You wouldn't want to inject blast volume SQ, is my guess.

 

[Smiter]

In 2021 I stopped doing TRT after 3 weeks of doing IM because of the soreness and needle anxiety.

I've injected SQ since mid January. 8 week labs for test came back fantastic everything test related except my DHT was low. Went from 120mg/week to 180mg/week to see if I can get the DHT up without having to donate.

SQ's main limitation is injection volume. I do 3x/week splits for my dosing which works fine for me. You wouldn't want to inject blast volume SQ, is my guess.

That sounds sweet, now all I need to know is syringe and needle size and the shot location you guys use.

 

[woundcarping]

That sounds sweet, now all I need to know is syringe and needle size and the shot location you guys use.

1/2" 29g for drawing and pinning... just like anything SQ, you just need SQ fat. I normally put it in my abdomen, easy access, plenty of SQ to inject into, and a large area to rotate.

 

[msyntakz]

That sounds sweet, now all I need to know is syringe and needle size and the shot location you guys use.

I plan on rotating between delts, quads, glutes and abdomen. Not that the muscle groups matter SubQ, but just more sites to rotate, since I am also using my peptides in my abdomen. So far, both delt shots were painless.

 

[aicarisprettycool 57917]

It never hurts for a man to know his testosterone levels. I have learned from my mistake from listening to a gym bro. He talked me into taking his "low maintenance dose" of testosterone. A month into it my son demanded that I get tested to see if I really needed it. It took a few more weeks to notice that I was screaming at other drivers on the road. I was thinking roid rage, I should get checked. I tested at 1800 ng/dl which is 800 more than an athlete a third of my age. I hadn't had a shot for a week at that point. Two weeks later I was down to 1300, then three weeks after that it was 224. My body had quit making it's own testosterone and I was way low.

Since then I've watched it slowly go back up as my body started making it's own again. I'm mid-range for a man my age today. I should have had the information before I started. Your needs are probably different than mine, however having test results first helps in making the right decision.

Yeah, bodybuilder low maintenance is about 300 to 350mg lol, definitely were on roids for a bit. Nothing wrong with being a bit above 1000 though, so long as your hemacrit and BP are fine.

 

[sfkid]

If SubQ is not working for me after the first 8-10 weeks, and levels are crazy lower than expected, I will try IM and look for a difference.

Don't do quad injections, those are the most painful. Inject in ass or delt. I've recently switched to delt injection from glute and use a 1/2 inch needle and no issues.

 

[PAPoots]

Don't do quad injections, those are the most painful. Inject in ass or delt. I've recently switched to delt injection from glute and use a 1/2 inch needle and no issues.

Hell yeah they are, and I get way more bleeders there also.

 

[TacoLifter420]

I get lumps from sub q, switched to IM ventral glute injections instead. 27 gauge syringe, and no pain or soreness. I rotate side to side on an EOD schedule. Way better for me.

 

[woundcarping]

I get lumps, often, but they’re not visible and not problematic for me. They help me keep track of where I should stick next.

 

[Moonshine72]

I'm 39, 40 next month. Started Tirz in December at 282lb, switched to Reta in January, currently 235lb.

I had a Dx of low T back in 2021 but didn't comply with sticking the drinking straw in my thigh for IM injections.

You can test your hormones without seeing a doctor using a place like Fitomics (who I use) for discount labs that you can take to a TRT provider (which can be online, I use TRTNation). Without knowing your levels, it's hard to offer advice. More fat will convert more to estrogen, but that's not a reason to not do it, IMO.

If you have low T, being on TRT will help preserve lean mass as you drop weight... not to mention the typical benefits of having in range test levels.

I took 40mg 3x weekly for the first 8 weeks, labs came back with everything being good except my DHT. I bumped my dose to 60mg 3x weekly and will retest next month if not before. I'm expecting my hematocrit to be elevated and require corrective action.

The main thing that stuck out to me in your post was the low dose of both Reta and Tirz. Typically low doses are more commonly touted as effective by the smaller portion of the population.

I'm a little late to this conversation, but I’m entering my 7th week on 50 mg of testosterone 2x a week. I’m also using TRTNation, but unfortunately I live in the over regulated hell of NY State and can’t use any cost-saving labs at all (to my knowledge). I'm a 40-year-old/6'1"/290-pound chunky monkey with an endomorph/meso frame.

 

[sfkid]

I'm a little late to this conversation, but I’m entering my 7th week on 50 mg of testosterone 2x a week. I’m also using TRTNation, but unfortunately I live in the over regulated hell of NY State and can’t use any cost-saving labs at all (to my knowledge). I'm a 40-year-old/6'1"/290-pound chunky monkey with an endomorph/meso frame.

Quest Diagnostics has offices in NYC. Goodlabs uses quest. Best place I've found for labs.

 

[woundcarping]

I'm a little late to this conversation, but I’m entering my 7th week on 50 mg of testosterone 2x a week. I’m also using TRTNation, but unfortunately I live in the over regulated hell of NY State and can’t use any cost-saving labs at all (to my knowledge). I'm a 40-year-old/6'1"/290-pound chunky monkey with an endomorph/meso frame.

I donated blood yesterday after labs last week showed elevated hematocrit from raising my dose. I cut the increase in half and will continue monitoring.

 

[Justatechdude]

My brother I wish you luck. TRT definitely helps you even if you’re fat. I was fat when I started. I started TRT and Sema at the same time 2.5 years ago. I am 6’3 and was 269lbs 30% body fat when I started. My weight now fluctuates between 220-230 and my body fat is 15-18%. I bet I could have healthy natural T levels now that I’m not fat and also when I started this health journey I got diagnosed with sleep apnea and I use my cpap every night. Untreated Sleep apnea lowers T. Don’t be afraid to go grey for testosterone more like UGL.

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“I’m sorry I am responding to a months old response”. I’ll do better looking at dates next time.

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I don’t think UGL is actually grey. Pretty sure it’s a lot darker than that. I mean I’m still considering it but isn’t it categorically different in consequences if your shipment gets inspected?

Also I’ve done months of research and studying bloodwork and all the hormonal systems involved. And I still would prefer and a Doc to review labs, so at least someone with more medical expertise can help me interpret results. Self managing TRT is a bit higher risk profile (right?)

Don’t get me wrong I’ve got bookmarks for potential future orders.

 

[JimGainz]

I'm a little late to this conversation, but I’m entering my 7th week on 50 mg of testosterone 2x a week. I’m also using TRTNation, but unfortunately I live in the over regulated hell of NY State and can’t use any cost-saving labs at all (to my knowledge). I'm a 40-year-old/6'1"/290-pound chunky monkey with an endomorph/meso frame.

That first two months is awesome. I think half of it is psychological (the relief/satisfaction of finally being on it) and the other half physiological (your body still producing while TRT is poured on top). As your body's production winds down, the honeymoon period also winds down. Keeping a journal helps you remember what you felt like before starting so you don't somehow believe it's no longer working at 6 mos. Many guys expect that honeymoon high to be permanent and then, when things level out and they feel just normal, they begin to think "this is expensive" and/or "this routine is inconvenient" and they quit.

 

[Mr. Blonde]

SubQ TRT? Really? Explain. Don't skimp on details. Free yourself. Let it all flow out. Oh btw. There is one thing- What test esters are you taking? That's of the utmost importance to know.

Not just the ester, but the carrier oil matters for sub q. Some test is suspended in grapeseed oil, cotton oil, and mct oil. I think mct might be the smoothest for sub q but might want to fact check as I am not on trt.

 

[msyntakz]

Quest Diagnostics has offices in NYC. Goodlabs uses quest. Best place I've found for labs.

When getting testing through Goodlabs, which labs are you most commonly getting? Do you do the "Men's" panel, or a la carte selections of specific tests?

 

[sfkid]

When getting testing through Goodlabs, which labs are you most commonly getting? Do you do the "Men's" panel, or a la carte selections of specific tests?

I do ala carte. I dont really care for all the markers in their pre-canned tests. Oh and 20% off code if you want: XPKNDZ

 

[Such1943]

When getting testing through Goodlabs, which labs are you most commonly getting? Do you do the "Men's" panel, or a la carte selections of specific tests?

This is what I order from Goodlabs:

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