No tirz detected in Uther T60

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Calm Logic said:
Likely the nail in the coffin for Krause. I will post 3P test results when available for Uther T60. Sample(s) are being sent out now by at least one GB. And I will look for results from the last month or so.
From this particular batch, do you know? ZE60-0118? I did a lot of searching but wasn't able to find a testing group for it.
 
Someone over on Peppys has already insinuated that I deliberately sent in the wrong thing. People really really want Krause to be wrong. All you researchers are not acting very scientific, I gotta say. 😂😂😂 I'm just a fat lady who tried to get insurance to cover zepbound and now I am buying peptides on weird websites and sending them out for testing that may not even be able to be trusted. What the hell am I doing here, lol.
 
peppystrings80 said:
Someone over on Peppys has already insinuated that I deliberately sent in the wrong thing. People really really want Krause to be wrong. All you researchers are not acting very scientific, I gotta say. 😂😂😂 I'm just a fat lady who tried to get insurance to cover zepbound and now I am buying peptides on weird websites and sending them out for testing that may not even be able to be trusted. What the hell am I doing here, lol.
I think you have to take that with a grain (or more) of salt. There are many Uther fans, but I think that was for the old Uther and not the new Uther, and things have changed. Your efforts are appreciated.
 
Chili777 said:
I think you have to take that with a grain (or more) of salt. There are many Uther fans, but I think that was for the old Uther and not the new Uther, and things have changed. Your efforts are appreciated.
If "new Uther" turns out to be shady I will be very disappointed. I've ordered from "old Uther" a couple of times and had good experiences with them. I was considering placing an order for some of the stuff on their price list that's hard to find. There's talk of them working on sourcing eloralintide, which would be interesting.

I never bought GLPs from them since their prices were not great, but they do have a large selection of other peps on the March price list. The lack of updates on the list may be a reflection of the changes underway.
 
yeddie said:
If "new Uther" turns out to be shady I will be very disappointed. I've ordered from "old Uther" a couple of times and had good experiences with them. I was considering placing an order for some of the stuff on their price list that's hard to find. There's talk of them working on sourcing eloralintide, which would be interesting.

I never bought GLPs from them since their prices were not great, but they do have a large selection of other peps on the March price list. The lack of updates on the list may be a reflection of the changes underway.
The fact that their January NAD endo test raised alarm, and that Enzo said they was moving to more expensive base materials to address it, coupled with the fact that the March batch had an almost equally high endo test, makes me question what exactly is going on there. There are also rumors that Enzo sold the company and that he's out of the picture for daily operations. I don't know.

I would stay away from Elora until testing vendors have confirmed that they can detect the cyclic ring to confirm it was synthesized correctly. It's the only GLP1 to date with that ring, and both Jano and Uzorak haven't confirmed they can yet. If they can't manufacture it correctly, you have a bunch of amino acids that may have an unknown effect on the receptors they are meant to act upon. There are a few CN manufacturers that provide raws to BP and are capable of proper manufacture, but whether Uther has secured one of them is an open question.
 
peppystrings80 said:
Someone over on Peppys has already insinuated that I deliberately sent in the wrong thing. People really really want Krause to be wrong. All you researchers are not acting very scientific, I gotta say. 😂😂😂

Send me a vial and I can tell you within few days if it is at least a GLP, haha. Besides a lot of appetite suppression, 8+ mg of tirz or reta would be horrible diarrhea for me. No placebo/nocebo can do some of the GI sides.

If it truly is zero tirz, the most likely scenario may be that you got reta instead. But the lab in question is the worst lab to take seriously. To quote someone on TG: "Krause is notoriously shite."
 
Calm Logic said:
Send me a vial and I can tell you within few days if it is at least a GLP, haha. Besides a lot of appetite suppression, 8+ mg of tirz or reta would be horrible diarrhea for me. No placebo/nocebo can do some of the GI sides.

If it truly is zero tirz, the most likely scenario may be that you got reta instead. But the lab in question is the worst lab to take seriously. To quote someone on TG: "Krause is notoriously shite."
I know. It's honestly very hard to know what to think. I've got my next sample packed up and ready to go off to Freedom, who can hopefully put this to rest once and for all. But I'll update if I get more information from Krause or F.i.n....n..rick (let's see if this one gets through)
 
The only recent 3P results I have found are below.

No batch number yet for this T60 from Uther (cropping of the image was by the GB group):

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For comparison, almost all of Uther's vendor results:

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So I see now your batch was from January/February, vendor tested on January 28th:

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Any issues that far back would likely have been detected by the community by now. But I will post if I find anything from that batch or time period.

The most recent Uther vendor results:

https://verify.janoshik.com/tests/133977-tir60mg_ZE600322_QH4X2MBN2ZBJ (done same day as 3P test, April 7th; within range of 3P testing)

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Janoshik Analytical

(most recent; slightly less overfill; done on April 20th)

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So for April, the vendor results were close to those 3P results from April 7th.
 

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Only tangentially related, but I sent a 10mg vial of Cagrilintide to Finn….rick and they sent it to Krause. Krause says that the mass in the tested vial was 2.55mg.

I pinned .5mg from this batch a couple of weeks ago and it was tough to eat calories the next three day, no interest in food. Had to force myself.

I’m like, okay, this is why everyone says they suck.

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Grogu said:
Only tangentially related, but I sent a 10mg vial of Cagrilintide to Finn….rick and they sent it to Krause. Krause says that the mass in the tested vial was 2.55mg.

I pinned .5mg from this batch a couple of weeks ago and it was tough to eat calories the next three day, no interest in food. Had to force myself.

I’m like, okay, this is why everyone says they suck.

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I'm sorry, but unless you have another lab result, I don't think how it made you feel is a very good judge of it's effectiveness. Again, a bunch of researchers not being very scientific.
 
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