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[Pete369]

I started TRT about 5 years ago, so I did my research on injection methods, supplies, site rotation, dosage etc then. I started sourcing HCG grey back then, around the time it was reclassified as a biological and US compound pharmacies had to get licensing and it was hard to find.

That was my first peptide I needed to reconstitute, store, learn how to purchase overseas in the lowdown etc.

In regards to peptides, I cycle my interests. One season it may be bodybuilding, another season stocks and investing, another season esoteric and spiritualism etc… and tend to nerd out when I do.

Last fall peptides came up and someone at my gym was ordering from well known domestic suppliers so I followed suit. As I learned about more compounds, efficacy, dosage, stacks etc. it became quite clear that it wasn’t economically feasible to pursue this with the current setup.

On Reddit I noticed someone saying they were making bank ordering in bulk and setting up a resell website. So naturally, I thought if they could get it cheap, so could I. I also like puzzles and mysteries, so I paid attention to what people said between the lines and dug through as many communities, videos, and sellers as I could find to aggregate the best data to take a poke. I also read as many scam posts as I could find, endotoxin warnings, community members holding people accountable etc.

 

[laansasa]

So, then, what does your research say? Which ones of these are worth doing? Can some be combined into single shots? Or is mixing peptides not a thing?

I am pinning 500mcg CJC with 500mcg DSIP at night (and getting incredible sleep). I am also pinning 500mcg MotsC, and 500mcg KPV in the morning (for inflamation and energy) plus 400mcg TB500 in the morning as well.

My doses are low because I am a hyper responder.

I stopped Kisspeptin because I didn't feel it did much. I also have a freezer full of other peps I plan to cycle (GHK-Cu, BPC, 5amino, SS31).

I stack them in the same syringe but some you cannot (GLPs you have to pin alone).

I attached a document that explains stacking and mixing of peps do's and don'ts. Take a look at it - it's a good read.

 

[tcpnomad]

I stack them in the same syringe

So - how does this work? You incrementally draw from different vials into the same syringe? Reuse the same needle, or a new one for each vial?

I attached a document

This is great! Thanks.

 

[laansasa]

So - how does this work? You incrementally draw from different vials into the same syringe? Reuse the same needle, or a new one for each vial?

This is great! Thanks.

You're welcome. I pull the units I need from 1 vial, then go to the next vial and pull with the same syringe. Because the vials have vacuum, they can pull your syringe fluid into the vial. To avoid this, I pull some air into the syringe before I go to the second vial (in case it pulls, it only pulls air).This prevents the first peptide from being sucked into the second vial and getting mixed. Hold the vial upside down, too - so the air you sucked into the syringe is at the top. Once you have both peps in your syringe, keep the needle pointing up to expel the air so you can pin.

I hope that makes sense.

 

[tcpnomad]

then go to the next vial and pull with the same syringe

Is this is not an issue? Having dipped that needle into the first peptide, does it not contaminate the second one if you reuse the needle? Is that how people usually do it?

 

[laansasa]

Is this is not an issue? Having dipped that needle into the first peptide, does it not contaminate the second one if you reuse the needle? Is that how people usually do it?

You can clean the needle with an alcohol wipe. I do it that way and have seen others do it, too. It may not be the best way but I am definitely not pinning so many times. You can do each one separately if that makes you more comfortable, but I think it's fine. Pens might also be an option since they are more convenient and you only use a new needle for each pin (not a whole syringe).

 

[amosmylove]

Big hint:

Check the date on the stuff you're reading.

Yesterday's news lines today's birdcage.

I still get likes from stuff I said almost 7 months ago.

Remember, God kills a kitten every time you wake up a zombie thread.

Well the feral cat problem is a real thing....

 

[BNLFL]

I stack them in the same syringe but some you cannot (GLPs you have to pin alone).

Doesn't that dull the needle? Because that blows when I put the needle in the stopper more than once.

 

[laansasa]

Doesn't that dull the needle? Because that blows when I put the needle in the stopper more than once.

It does dull it. I use 27G so they hold up better and then I don't gently pin, I kind of stab myself.

 

[BNLFL]

It does dull it. I use 27G so they hold up better and then I don't gently pin, I kind of stab myself.

Ah, that for sure makes a difference. My 31g dull going into a stopper twice.

 

[JoonyO]

I do like the Pep-pedia site...HOWEVER a quick read on Tirz shows me a couple of things that I believe have been debunked so I can't take it as gospel-just as a reference. Here's a couple things on Tirz: "NEVER shake vigorously as this destroys the protein" ( I believe Jano dispelled this as BS ) and "store at correct temperature ( 2-8*C ), protected from light NEVER FREEZE..." I believe we've now learned reconstituted CAN BE FROZEN and keep it's viability.

Also a question as I'm not certain that I'm remembering THIS properly: Can't unreconned/lypholized Tirz simply be STORED out of light and heat? I mean NOT necessary to refrigerate, no?

 

[JoonyO]

You're welcome. I pull the units I need from 1 vial, then go to the next vial and pull with the same syringe. Because the vials have vacuum, they can pull your syringe fluid into the vial. To avoid this, I pull some air into the syringe before I go to the second vial (in case it pulls, it only pulls air).This prevents the first peptide from being sucked into the second vial and getting mixed. Hold the vial upside down, too - so the air you sucked into the syringe is at the top. Once you have both peps in your syringe, keep the needle pointing up to expel the air so you can pin.

I hope that makes sense.

I'm definitely going to try/attempt this-putting air in the syringe to prevent what's already in it being sucked into the next vial. Great tip...if it works!

 

[laansasa]

I'm definitely going to try/attempt this-putting air in the syringe to prevent what's already in it being sucked into the next vial. Great tip...if it works!

Lol, it works for me. Let me know if it works for you!

 

[Kadeeglp123]

What I wanted to say was I've read about that peptides are not as delicate as one may think, we try not to foam up the peptides, we try to enter the bac slowly so they're feeling safe and slowly absorbing the liquid, we try to swirl, sometimes those little guys suck up the liquid to quick, but it's not gonna kill them too much of any degree that Jano showed no harm it's done shaking your peps,

 

[endlrls 44972]

Normally when I want to learn something new on a topic I know there is a community to find. Whether its couponing, CC points, or this community. I try to find where the communities are talking outside of TT/IG. Sometimes Ill start with Reddit/YT comments. Once I find the forums or groups that have a lot of info. I work on learning the language, acronyms list. There's always some kind of beginner files. Readdddd a lot. Use search bar, then I go back and read again because most of the time what Im looking for is right there. I just dont realize it because I havent made the correlation yet. It is overwhelming at first. Sometimes I take some days as a break to not get overloaded with info.

This is the way... "Rabbit Hole" research

 

[BNLFL]

Best practice is not to shake it to hard or squirt BAC/AA on them ( ... No, I'm not gonna link the same image twice )

Don't be paranoid, but also don't be wreckless.

That's been proven false by Peter from Janoshik.

 

[lessthanhalf]

Just reading through any post that looks vaguely interesting or somewhat related to what you are doing is a good way to gradually pick up information by osmosis, this has the advantage of getting you to come across information that you did not know, you did not know. It is otherwise pretty hard to work out where there are things you should know but don't. And there is a search on this forum.

Chatgpt is excellent for specific questions, if you want more accurate to the actual science answers, the easiest way is just use scholar / research mode. In default mode, it can tend to agree with whatever you say and present information from forums as fact, when it is more often anecdotal, and emphasise coherent stories over scientific accuracy. Obviously it is not going to recommend using peptides never tested on humans in that mode.

 

[Kadeeglp123]

This is the way... "Rabbit Hole" research

Rabbit Hole research turns into one Hell of a Rat Race at times!

Jumping from hole to hole getting deeper inside, it's awesome that we can get into such research and so much info powered by AI , Science, the Mind and all started on these Fat Bodies we once made us feel inadequate, now we have trimmed up, found friends and groups of people with our same interest who love becoming a scientist in our studies and journeys! it's pretty darn cool I got to say!!

 

[endlrls 44972]

Rabbit Hole research turns into one Hell of a Rat Race at times!

Jumping from hole to hole getting deeper inside, it's awesome that we can get into such research and so much info powered by AI , Science, the Mind and all started on these Fat Bodies we once made us feel inadequate, now we have trimmed up, found friends and groups of people with our same interest who love becoming a scientist in our studies and journeys! it's pretty darn cool I got to say!!

Agreed! I have many "conversations with George" (what I call google AI) about hypotheticals.....as well as conversations and discussions with my sister (on Tirz and Reta) and what we find out and share. A support group I think is ideal (like this group as well).

What a time to be alive! (pardon the cheesy quote).

 

[Kadeeglp123]

That was what I was gonna say, it was on the tip of my tongue

Agreed! I have many "conversations with George" (what I call google AI) about hypotheticals.....as well as conversations and discussions with my sister (on Tirz and Reta) and what we find out and share. A support group I think is ideal (like this group as well).

What a time to be alive! (pardon the cheesy quote).