你在reta期间使用的饮食方法是什么?

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longestyards said:
I’m actually the same without drugs.

yeah exactly, just normal diet but a deficit. Hope it feels good on deficit cause normally for me, after two weeks on deficit I simply break.
Yes, you don't feel the deficit with GLPs, in fact, typically quite the opposite - that's one of the things that makes them so revolutionary and, well, kick ass 😀
 
longestyards said:
Interesting. But wouldn’t low carb actually make your blood sugar a bit too low and cause you to have maybe possibly feint or something?
Commonly reported in forums, I've also heard one of the reta agonists (Glucagon?) needs carbs to work.
 
longestyards said:
I’m actually the same without drugs.

yeah exactly, just normal diet but a deficit. Hope it feels good on deficit cause normally for me, after two weeks on deficit I simply break.
Oh, for me I usually break the diet in 2-4 hours, so you are very good ! ;-)
 
longestyards said:
yeah exactly, just normal diet but a deficit. Hope it feels good on deficit cause normally for me, after two weeks on deficit I simply break.
That is the inherent struggle. If your weight loss strategy in the past has been "calorie restriction" and your challenge has been "willpower" then a GLP (reta or otherwise) will generally lead to weight loss with no intentional dietary changes whatsoever. If that's your approach, you may be overthinking things by asking for a particular dietary protocol. Whatever you do while on a GLP is likely to "work."

The whole point to different "diets" in general is that by changing what they're restricting (e.g. restricting food types rather than "calories") it's a different tension one is fighting. When one is restricting "calories" (but eating the same modern foods around us) one is constantly trying to balance just the right low level of hunger in a way where they can sustain the behavior. If one is instead restricting "carbs" (as an example), then one is no longer fighting hunger, but now is fighting carb-cravings. Different people will find different fights easier and harder to maintain and may select a particular diet or switch between diets partially based on allowing one craving to be fulfilled at the expense of another.
 
After experimenting with fasting low carb keto for years I have to say switching to a low fat higher carb diet has been a game changer for me and has been working great with Reta. This guy Zane Griggs has really good content and can explain how it works better then I can. I'm fairly active and my workouts and sleep are a lot better with this diet. Just thought I'd share since it helped me a lot.

View: https://youtube.com/shorts/OuDKNqoiar0?si=tKeMzhIxozdFVEmU
 
longestyards said:
What is WPI? Does husk really work? I have like a kiloof it I’ve never used.
WPI is whey protein isolate . Comes as a powder you can mix with a glass of water . Or if you grab the unflavoured WPI you can mix with soup or in other cooking to boost the protein content.

With Reta it's the simplest way to reach your protein levels . Whist keeping control of calories .

Psyllium husk , can be added to cereals or many other foods , or simply add to water and drink before it turns to a jelly like consistency. Low calorie and high soluble fibre , which helps with such high protein levels .

Hopefully that helps 🙂
 
Habibibi said:
Be careful fasting on retatrutide, and be careful about keto diets. There is a warning on later trials to participants about keto diets and possible low blood sugar.
What do they say? Low blood sugar as in you will faint or something? Thank for the heads up I will check this out.

yrrdead said:
Wow, this thread is a bit much. Optimization trap.

GLP1's make reducing calories a breeze and you want to make it as difficult as possible. I would never tell anyone to do any of these things.

Track what you eat, track your weight. Run a deficit. Take your shots.

No need to build a better mousetrap. You are literally injecting the best mousetrap ever invented and you want to "improve" it....... Don't feel guilty for it being easy. It isn't cheating , this isn't a moral question in the first place.
Hey, i understand what you're saying. But this is my first time and I had no idea on what to expect, so I figured i could prepare by asking to see what actually works for people. But like many people already stated, reta will reduce your apetite so you'll end up eating "clean". The thing is i eat "clean" already, i just eat tons of it... I live in norway so eating clean and unprocessed food daily is pretty normal and expected.

miss-sanne said:
I eat everything, just not so much, but a lot of protein, some healthy fats and complex carbs.

I don't care for electrolyte drinks, I don't think, it's needed.

I had a problem with sugar cravings on 8 mg, geez it was hell. I couldn't stay away from the sugar, but still losing weight. (I just don't eat a lot).

Down to 6 mg again, and sugar cravings gone again.

There is no need to be on a 'special diet' on reta, reta will do her job, yes I think it's a woman, it's a Kinder chicken embryo surprise. ;-) ( but get your protein. )
I guess sugar isnt so bad as long as you're on a deficit. I noticed that my leanest years was when I ate just a buncha carbs and sugar...

WholesomeApril said:
I didn’t follow any specific diet. I just ate less and naturally gravitated to healthier food choices. I did focus on eating more protein and drinking electrolytes.
Did you even calorie count? A lot of people are saying just like you, but do ya'll calorie count or what?? And if you do, how much deficit should i aim for?

cygnus said:
High protein and fiber emphasis, less worried about the carb/fat ratio as I'm keeping calories at a ceiling which is producing fat loss.
How much deficit do you go for? What would you recommend?

tendency said:
Yes, you don't feel the deficit with GLPs, in fact, typically quite the opposite - that's one of the things that makes them so revolutionary and, well, kick ass 😀
Insane... I CANT WAIT!!!

RomanNumeral said:
After experimenting with fasting low carb keto for years I have to say switching to a low fat higher carb diet has been a game changer for me and has been working great with Reta. This guy Zane Griggs has really good content and can explain how it works better then I can. I'm fairly active and my workouts and sleep are a lot better with this diet. Just thought I'd share since it helped me a lot.

View: https://youtube.com/shorts/OuDKNqoiar0?si=tKeMzhIxozdFVEmU
Thanks for the input, i will check it out and probably keep my high carb low fat "healthy" diet. But of course, on some kind of deficit.

Sid the SeaGull said:
WPI is whey protein isolate . Comes as a powder you can mix with a glass of water . Or if you grab the unflavoured WPI you can mix with soup or in other cooking to boost the protein content.

With Reta it's the simplest way to reach your protein levels . Whist keeping control of calories .

Psyllium husk , can be added to cereals or many other foods , or simply add to water and drink before it turns to a jelly like consistency. Low calorie and high soluble fibre , which helps with such high protein levels .

Hopefully that helps 🙂
Thanks for the tip of drinking husk with water just. i can do that. i haaaate adding weird stuff to my food as the consistency and taste always changes... but just putting shit into water and drink it? thats fine.
 
longestyards said:
What do they say? Low blood sugar as in you will faint or something? Thank for the heads up I will check this out.

Hey, i understand what you're saying. But this is my first time and I had no idea on what to expect, so I figured i could prepare by asking to see what actually works for people. But like many people already stated, reta will reduce your apetite so you'll end up eating "clean". The thing is i eat "clean" already, i just eat tons of it... I live in norway so eating clean and unprocessed food daily is pretty normal and expected.

I guess sugar isnt so bad as long as you're on a deficit. I noticed that my leanest years was when I ate just a buncha carbs and sugar...

Did you even calorie count? A lot of people are saying just like you, but do ya'll calorie count or what?? And if you do, how much deficit should i aim for?

How much deficit do you go for? What would you recommend?

Insane... I CANT WAIT!!!

Thanks for the input, i will check it out and probably keep my high carb low fat "healthy" diet. But of course, on some kind of deficit.

Thanks for the tip of drinking husk with water just. i can do that. i haaaate adding weird stuff to my food as the consistency and taste always changes... but just putting shit into water and drink it? thats fine.
No worries, just on the WPI and soup , I forgot to mention, hot drinks and soup work best with pea or soy protein rather than WPI , it can get a bit cottage cheese like when hot , works for some soups, not others. Pea and soy unflavoured is good . As is bovine peptides unflavoured, which really help with joint recovery over time .
 
Protein, Exercise (min 20 mins cardio x 3-4 weekly) and 20 mins resistance training daily, and carbs when your body tells you it's time to have carbs! lol...
 
longestyards said:
What do they say? Low blood sugar as in you will faint or something? Thank for the heads up I will check this out.

Correction, the new warning is actually for increased risk of ketoacidosis due to poor food intake, not necessarily for doing a keto diet. The risk increases if you fast, drink too much alcohol, or not enough water. This new risk was added to later trials, and is rare.
 
Habibibi said:
Correction, the new warning is actually for increased risk of ketoacidosis due to poor food intake, not necessarily for doing a keto diet. The risk increases if you fast, drink too much alcohol, or not enough water. This new risk was added to later trials, and is rare.
SGLT-2 inhibitors also have this risk in very rare conditions. It makes no sense whatsoever (based on our understanding of how these hormones work), but yet it exists. I take it to mean that we just haven't mapped out our hormonal responses and how they handle edge cases in certain ways just yet (and perhaps never will).

Combine that with poorly informed doctors who were trained in medical school to fear ketone production (a natural thing that actually happens in most healthy people overnight) because at very high levels, it's an indication of ketoacidosis and you get weird FUD.
 
My current diet which is everyday basically the same, the only thing that changes is the type of soup for variety:

Wake up 3hours minimum fasting

First Meal: 2 Chicken Thighs, 2 Egg, 1 Whole pepper, 4 Strands asparagus, Mushrooms (All cooked in George Forman for the use of no oil)

3 hours after 1st Meal: 150g Blackberries, Honey, yogurt

Second Meal 3 hours after snack: 500g Soup

This has been working wonders for my body, reduced swelling in legs, weight loss. ability to just to more!
 
Habibibi said:
Correction, the new warning is actually for increased risk of ketoacidosis due to poor food intake, not necessarily for doing a keto diet. The risk increases if you fast, drink too much alcohol, or not enough water. This new risk was added to later trials, and is rare.
Very interesting so it mean i should not be fasting 3 days every two weeks??

Beardboost said:
My current diet which is everyday basically the same, the only thing that changes is the type of soup for variety:

Wake up 3hours minimum fasting

First Meal: 2 Chicken Thighs, 2 chicken embryo, 1 Whole pepper, 4 Strands asparagus, Mushrooms (All cooked in George Forman for the use of no oil)

3 hours after 1st Meal: 150g Blackberries, Honey, yogurt

Second Meal 3 hours after snack: 500g Soup

This has been working wonders for my body, reduced swelling in legs, weight loss. ability to just to more!
thanks this sounds nice actually
 
longestyards said:
Very interesting so it mean i should not be fasting 3 days every two weeks??

thanks this sounds nice actually
If you're a type 1 diabetic or a type 2 who currently takes insulin and/or sulfonylureas then I would avoid fasting. LOL

Fasting is probably unnecessary when taking a GLP, but it's not like NDKA is vastly different from other edge case things that can go horribly wrong. Plenty of GLP hyper-responders are engaging in fasting-like behavior for days at a time (unintentionally). I can't say how many, but I personally know someone (so it can't be that rare). We're lucky in that we can control dosing to account for hyper-response, but those on brand name using the standard injectors are forced to stick to set level injections and among those there will be people (like my friend) who simply can't eat for multiple days in a row due to extreme discomfort.
 
tubby said:
If you're a type 1 diabetic or a type 2 who currently takes insulin and/or sulfonylureas then I would avoid fasting. LOL

Fasting is probably unnecessary when taking a GLP, but it's not like NDKA is vastly different from other edge case things that can go horribly wrong. Plenty of GLP hyper-responders are engaging in fasting-like behavior for days at a time (unintentionally). I can't say how many, but I personally know someone (so it can't be that rare). We're lucky in that we can control dosing to account for hyper-response, but those on brand name using the standard injectors are forced to stick to set level injections and among those there will be people (like my friend) who simply can't eat for multiple days in a row due to extreme discomfort.
Damn that’s insane. Yeah we’re lucky to have control over dosage. I’ve started with 0.5 mg so it probably won’t suppress my appetite wildly yet. But I’d figure I’ll try fasting 3 days from tomorrow (I injected 0.5 today). I figure the first day of fast is fine so it’s not important if Reta has started to affect me. But for me the second and third day are usually hell. So if it feels fine this time I’ll know it works.
 
Beardboost said:
My current diet which is everyday basically the same, the only thing that changes is the type of soup for variety:

Wake up 3hours minimum fasting

First Meal: 2 Chicken Thighs, 2 chicken embryo, 1 Whole pepper, 4 Strands asparagus, Mushrooms (All cooked in George Forman for the use of no oil)

3 hours after 1st Meal: 150g Blackberries, Honey, yogurt

Second Meal 3 hours after snack: 500g Soup

This has been working wonders for my body, reduced swelling in legs, weight loss. ability to just to more!
有意思。所以,第一顿饭基本上就是早餐?我现在吃不下两个鸡腿了。我家鸡肉都是用空气炸锅做的。其他肉类大多用烤架烤。昨天,我用颗粒燃料烤炉/烟熏炉烤了两排BB肋排。我吃了两根。
 
BNLFL said:
有意思。所以,第一顿饭基本上就是早餐?我现在吃不下两个鸡腿了。我家鸡肉都是用空气炸锅做的。其他肉类大多用烤架烤。昨天,我用颗粒燃料烤炉/烟熏炉烤了两排BB肋排。我吃了两根。
在英国,鸡腿肉个头不大,两块去骨鸡腿肉只有250克,搭配Triz和Reta的营养补充剂很容易消化。而且,禁食16小时后,我的肚子空空的。Triz帮助我控制禁食,同时又能摄入所需的热量。这个计划很适合我的身体,但可能不适合其他人。
 
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