Mystery peptide with high endotoxin results

[Lovedog100]

I had to Google endotoxin to understand what you are talking about. As a bacteria, would BAC water be strong enough to kill it?

Endotoxins are lipopolysaccharides (LPS) forming the outer membrane of Gram-negative bacteria (e.g., E. coli , Salmonella), acting as a structural, protective barrier. Released upon bacterial lysis, they cause fever, septic shock, inflammation, and sepsis by inducing massive immune responses, specifically via Lipid A.

Key Aspects of Endotoxin:

Location: Found in the outer membrane of Gram-negative bacteria.

Functions: Provides structural integrity, protects against host defenses, and maintains bacterial viability.

Structure: Composed of three parts: Lipid A (toxic component), core polysaccharide, and O-antigen.

Immune Response: Triggers innate immunity by activating macrophages to release inflammatory mediators like TNFα.

Diseases/Symptoms: Causes severe fever, inflammation, septic shock, and diarrhea.

Detection: Tested using Limulus Amebocyte Lysate (LAL) assays, which use horseshoe crab blood to detect minute amounts.

 

[Habibibi]

I had to Google endotoxin to understand what you are talking about. As a bacteria, would BAC water be strong enough to kill it?

Endotoxins are lipopolysaccharides (LPS) forming the outer membrane of Gram-negative bacteria (e.g., E. coli , Salmonella), acting as a structural, protective barrier. Released upon bacterial lysis, they cause fever, septic shock, inflammation, and sepsis by inducing massive immune responses, specifically via Lipid A .

Key Aspects of Endotoxin:

Location: Found in the outer membrane of Gram-negative bacteria.

Functions: Provides structural integrity, protects against host defenses, and maintains bacterial viability.

Structure: Composed of three parts: Lipid A (toxic component), core polysaccharide, and O-antigen.

Immune Response: Triggers innate immunity by activating macrophages to release inflammatory mediators like TNFα .

Diseases/Symptoms: Causes severe fever, inflammation, septic shock, and diarrhea.

Detection: Tested using Limulus Amebocyte Lysate (LAL) assays, which use horseshoe crab blood to detect minute amounts.

Bac water doesn't kill them

 

[CNCCurrency]

I had to Google endotoxin to understand what you are talking about. As a bacteria, would BAC water be strong enough to kill it?

Endotoxins are lipopolysaccharides (LPS) forming the outer membrane of Gram-negative bacteria (e.g., E. coli , Salmonella), acting as a structural, protective barrier. Released upon bacterial lysis, they cause fever, septic shock, inflammation, and sepsis by inducing massive immune responses, specifically via Lipid A .

Key Aspects of Endotoxin:

Location: Found in the outer membrane of Gram-negative bacteria.

Functions: Provides structural integrity, protects against host defenses, and maintains bacterial viability.

Structure: Composed of three parts: Lipid A (toxic component), core polysaccharide, and O-antigen.

Immune Response: Triggers innate immunity by activating macrophages to release inflammatory mediators like TNFα .

Diseases/Symptoms: Causes severe fever, inflammation, septic shock, and diarrhea.

Detection: Tested using Limulus Amebocyte Lysate (LAL) assays, which use horseshoe crab blood to detect minute amounts.

Your body can handle 5iu per kilo per hour.

 

[Grogu]

I had to Google endotoxin to understand what you are talking about. As a bacteria, would BAC water be strong enough to kill it?

Endotoxins are fragments of bacterial cell walls, not living organisms, because they are already 'dead,' they cannot be killed by bacteriostatic water, which in any case does not kill live bacteria but merely inhibits their growth; the threat endotoxins pose is not infection but rather a potentially severe immune reaction that can occur even when no live bacteria are present.

 

[Grogu]

Looks like we may have a new endotoxin level winner, at over 1000 EU/vial. Estimate provided is probably low

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At this point, I think all we know is that the EUs are above 100 EUs, but agree, the estimate is probably low if it works the same way as other Jano tests have worked. I was in a group that the EU<10 test reported an EU value of around 11, with the comment that the value was outside the assay's validated range. On the EU>10 test the results indicated that EUs were around 78. So, this 1,350.5 could be substantially higher (if it works the same way).

 

[catrix]

Its JEEP btw

 

[agussie]

Its JEEP btw

they were my next test buy but after the whole batch number mixup/mislabel thing, i think i'll let some of you guys bleed off their supply. I've also noticed a lack of even vendor coa's from them on some stuff lately.

 

[Chili777]

Its JEEP btw

I haven't seen any mention on STG that the retest for >1000 EU was completed. How did you confirm this?

 

[catrix]

I haven't seen any mention on STG that the retest for >1000 EU was completed. How did you confirm this?

Someone posted the Jano Test in another TG group

 

[Mr.Tired]

Someone posted the Jano Test in another TG group

Which peptide? I've got a lot of JP stuff and would like to know what to put off using until we have more information.

 

[catrix]

Which peptide? I've got a lot of JP stuff and would like to know what to put off using until we have more information.

Triz

 

[littledragon25]

Triz

I'd be interested to know who posted this on a mystery TG group, since the full COA hasn't been posted to the test group yet and has only been seen by myself and the test lead, so they've obviously faked one... And I would like to ban whoever is faking results with LS's name on.

 

[Jone5y87!]

Hey Fellow members, after some advice please

Received my order yesterday, super quick and really well packaged, very informative and quick responses however i have no batch numbers to corroborate with the seen COA's.

the response i got back was people identify batches by bottle caps ?

So my question is there any tests or data that i can look for to ensure these have been tested ?

this is the last piece of the puzzle for me.

Thanks you all really appreciate the help and guidance

 

[Habibibi]

Hey Fellow members, after some advice please

Received my order yesterday, super quick and really well packaged, very informative and quick responses however i have no batch numbers to corroborate with the seen COA's.

the response i got back was people identify batches by bottle caps ?

So my question is there any tests or data that i can look for to ensure these have been tested ?

this is the last piece of the puzzle for me.

Thanks you all really appreciate the help and guidance

Who's your vendor? Get on their telegram or discord channel to see if there's been third party tests for your products.

 

[Chili777]

I'd be interested to know who posted this on a mystery TG group, since the full COA hasn't been posted to the test group yet and has only been seen by myself and the test lead, so they've obviously faked one... And I would like to ban whoever is faking results with LS's name on.

That's the problem when this kind of thing goes viral - the unfounded rumors start flying. I don't believe anyone except littledragon or juggaknot when it comes to this issue. You shouldn't either.

 

[Jone5y87!]

Who's your vendor? Get on their telegram or discord channel to see if there's been third party tests for your products.

They show me the coas from September but they have batch numbers on them my products don’t so they don’t marry up if that’s makes sense

 

[CNCCurrency]

They show me the coas from September but they have batch numbers on them my products don’t so they don’t marry up if that’s makes sense

Is that a British term, marry up? Translation match?

 

[peppystrings80]

On a Telegram forum for one of the vendors who are on this forum, I was ridiculed for sending out my peptides for endotoxins testing. "What a waste of money" I was told. Well, it was worth it to me.

I've sent some of mine out for endo testing as well. I bought some things before I was really aware of endotoxin exposure risk, it's cheaper to send out a vial for testing than to try and replace the whole kits with better tested ones. Have a feeling everything will come back fine, but it's for my peace of mind. Still way cheaper than Lilly.

 

[Grogu]

Is that a British term, marry up? Translation match?

Tie up, tally, match up, reconcile, etc. in the US.

Although in the US where most marriages are not good matches, perhaps it applies to these kits

 

[Jone5y87!]

Is that a British term, marry up? Translation match?

They don’t match up. I was expecting there to be a batch number on my kit that match’s the cos they have