My lotion recipe

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DunningKruger said:
Everything inflames me, so I keep it simple with just tallow, distilled water, and lye. I love it, except when I have rendered the tallow at too high of a temperature and it smells like dead cow. 😆

THAT was why I mostly stopped working with lard; you heat it up and it smells like pork. Then it cools down, and it was like I could STILL smell the pork. I was half sure that I was imagining it, but I switched to palm anyway. 😀

DjJoshua said:
Yes. I have seen this soap made on youtube. maybe ill just get a bar and test it out first. Thank you for the info 🙂

That's a great idea for multiple reasons; the smell is so distinctive that you'd definitely want to smell it for the first time before committing to soaping with it. I didn't love it for like the first year or so, though the rosemary mint fragrance does do something really amazing to it. I've got two girlfriends who will BEG for a bar when they run out and loved it on first sniff, though.
 
randompersonrandom said:
I haven't bought mass-producted lotion or moisturizer in decades, or have any interest in doing so. Most of it, even the "good" stuff is made with mostly soybean or safflower or sunflower or some cheap, shitty oil and a drop of argan or jojoba or some specialty oil in it so they can put "Argan oil!" or something on the label.

This came up in a convo elsewhere here about trying to prevent loose skin. My lotion does not prevent loose skin, because no lotion can do that and the ones that say they can are lying. It DOES, however, moisturize very well and goes on silky and not greasy. I don't and will never sell it, because in the US, lotion is considered a "cosmetic" and is subject to FDA oversight, and no thank you to all that.

I learned lotion crafting mostly from Oh The Things We'll Make, Humblebee and Me, Swifty Crafty Monkey, and Brambleberry. (Google them). Most of the crunchy-girl blogs use a double boiler, but I use the microwave. I'm not going to rewrite the how-to of lotion crafting just to give my recipe, but wholesalesuppliesplus (where I get a LOT of my stuff) has a decent "how to make lotion page here:

https://www.wholesalesuppliesplus.com/education/how-to-make/lotions-from-scratch.aspx

I don't mess with "heat and hold", because it's not really necessary for me; basic sanitary practices and a preservative do me fine. I mix up my lotion as I need it, and make about a month at a time.

My lotion recipe ingredients and where I usually get them are:

65% Distilled Water (anywhere)

20% nice oil, your choice of any combination. I favor moringa, macadamia nut, and jojoba, argan from wholesalesuppliesplus, sometimes rosehip, sometimes emu oil from Montana Emu Ranch (no more than 10% of the total oil for that one), sometimes avocado oil out of the cupboard, just experiment with what you like.

4% vegetable glycerine, amazon

4% BTMS-25, wholesalesuppliesplus

1% BTMS-50, wholesalesuppliesplus (if you don't feel like getting both, you can just do 5 of the 25 but I like a little of the 50)

1% fragrance or essential oil. I get both from wholesalesuppliesplus. This month is "Cashmere Woods and Tonka Bean," an old favorite, but you can use whatever you like.

3% protein or aminos. Silk peptides are fine, plant keratin is my usual. At some point, I might try 1% of it being reconned ghk.

1% Jeequat ndcs (I like it because it makes my eyelashes noticeably thicker. It's optional, if you don't want to go look for it, add another 1% of btms-25. I get mine at Windy City Soap in Canada)

0.25% DL-panthenol (you can leave it out if you want, it's the vitamin in Pantene. I get mine at wholesalesuppliesplus)

0.75% Optiphen plus (do not leave this out. Just don't. Your lotion will get bacteria and be gross.)

Everything by weight. If you do 100g of this, it makes about 3.5 oz. Use a scale that weights a tenth of a gram, the little drug-dealer or jewelry scales on amazon work fine.

In one container:

The oil, the btms 25 and 50.

In the other container:

The water, the DL Panthenol, the protein or aminos, the jeequat, and the glycerine

Alternate heating both containers in the microwave in ten seconds bursts (for the oil one) and twenty seconds bursts (for the water one). Check temps with your thermometer as you go. Try to get both of them to 165-175 at the same time. Try not to overheat the water one. Try HARD not to overheat the oil one.

When they're both at the right temp or higher, give the water one a quick stir and dump it in the oil one. Give THAT a quick stir, and make sure it's still over 165. If it's not, pop it back in the microwave in ten seconds bursts, quick stir and check, repeat til it's at 165. Then hit it with your mixer for 40-50 seconds or until it turns white (maybe beige, if your aminos are beige).

Make sure your temp has dropped below 175, and as long as it has, add the optiphen and the fragrance. Hit it again with the mixer, around a minute, maybe less. If you're new, wait about ten minutes before pouring it into the container to make sure it's not separating. If it is, then you got your heat wrong; let it cool all the way and THEN mix again; it won't be perfect but it'll be useable. If the emulsion is stable and not separating, pour it into your container and let it cool before you put the lid on.

I think if you mix in ghk, which I haven't done yet cause I just go the idea last night from @desinr-gal , you probably shouldn't add that til after you're done microwaving; I don't actually know how a copper peptide would act in the microwave. Maybe fine, maybe not, but I will not be chancing it.

It'll thicken when it cools all the way and gets a few hours to set. Use it and then reflect on how you are free from the clutches of expensive body care vendors forever and the price of good lotion is no longer the price of YOUR good lotion, and yours isn't full of silicone and soybean oil.
A sous vide might help in your heating method.
 
fukuz said:
A sous vide might help in your heating method.
I would say DEFINITELY if you're heat-and-holding after you add something that may or may not behave predictably, like a copper peptide or something. For everyday mixup, a microwave really is fine and very quick.
 
randompersonrandom said:
I haven't bought mass-producted lotion or moisturizer in decades, or have any interest in doing so. Most of it, even the "good" stuff is made with mostly soybean or safflower or sunflower or some cheap, shitty oil and a drop of argan or jojoba or some specialty oil in it so they can put "Argan oil!" or something on the label.

This came up in a convo elsewhere here about trying to prevent loose skin. My lotion does not prevent loose skin, because no lotion can do that and the ones that say they can are lying. It DOES, however, moisturize very well and goes on silky and not greasy. I don't and will never sell it, because in the US, lotion is considered a "cosmetic" and is subject to FDA oversight, and no thank you to all that.

I learned lotion crafting mostly from Oh The Things We'll Make, Humblebee and Me, Swifty Crafty Monkey, and Brambleberry. (Google them). Most of the crunchy-girl blogs use a double boiler, but I use the microwave. I'm not going to rewrite the how-to of lotion crafting just to give my recipe, but wholesalesuppliesplus (where I get a LOT of my stuff) has a decent "how to make lotion page here:

https://www.wholesalesuppliesplus.com/education/how-to-make/lotions-from-scratch.aspx

I don't mess with "heat and hold", because it's not really necessary for me; basic sanitary practices and a preservative do me fine. I mix up my lotion as I need it, and make about a month at a time.

My lotion recipe ingredients and where I usually get them are:

65% Distilled Water (anywhere)

20% nice oil, your choice of any combination. I favor moringa, macadamia nut, and jojoba, argan from wholesalesuppliesplus, sometimes rosehip, sometimes emu oil from Montana Emu Ranch (no more than 10% of the total oil for that one), sometimes avocado oil out of the cupboard, just experiment with what you like.

4% vegetable glycerine, amazon

4% BTMS-25, wholesalesuppliesplus

1% BTMS-50, wholesalesuppliesplus (if you don't feel like getting both, you can just do 5 of the 25 but I like a little of the 50)

1% fragrance or essential oil. I get both from wholesalesuppliesplus. This month is "Cashmere Woods and Tonka Bean," an old favorite, but you can use whatever you like.

3% protein or aminos. Silk peptides are fine, plant keratin is my usual. At some point, I might try 1% of it being reconned ghk.

1% Jeequat ndcs (I like it because it makes my eyelashes noticeably thicker. It's optional, if you don't want to go look for it, add another 1% of btms-25. I get mine at Windy City Soap in Canada)

0.25% DL-panthenol (you can leave it out if you want, it's the vitamin in Pantene. I get mine at wholesalesuppliesplus)

0.75% Optiphen plus (do not leave this out. Just don't. Your lotion will get bacteria and be gross.)

Everything by weight. If you do 100g of this, it makes about 3.5 oz. Use a scale that weights a tenth of a gram, the little drug-dealer or jewelry scales on amazon work fine.

In one container:

The oil, the btms 25 and 50.

In the other container:

The water, the DL Panthenol, the protein or aminos, the jeequat, and the glycerine

Alternate heating both containers in the microwave in ten seconds bursts (for the oil one) and twenty seconds bursts (for the water one). Check temps with your thermometer as you go. Try to get both of them to 165-175 at the same time. Try not to overheat the water one. Try HARD not to overheat the oil one.

When they're both at the right temp or higher, give the water one a quick stir and dump it in the oil one. Give THAT a quick stir, and make sure it's still over 165. If it's not, pop it back in the microwave in ten seconds bursts, quick stir and check, repeat til it's at 165. Then hit it with your mixer for 40-50 seconds or until it turns white (maybe beige, if your aminos are beige).

Make sure your temp has dropped below 175, and as long as it has, add the optiphen and the fragrance. Hit it again with the mixer, around a minute, maybe less. If you're new, wait about ten minutes before pouring it into the container to make sure it's not separating. If it is, then you got your heat wrong; let it cool all the way and THEN mix again; it won't be perfect but it'll be useable. If the emulsion is stable and not separating, pour it into your container and let it cool before you put the lid on.

I think if you mix in ghk, which I haven't done yet cause I just go the idea last night from @desinr-gal , you probably shouldn't add that til after you're done microwaving; I don't actually know how a copper peptide would act in the microwave. Maybe fine, maybe not, but I will not be chancing it.

It'll thicken when it cools all the way and gets a few hours to set. Use it and then reflect on how you are free from the clutches of expensive body care vendors forever and the price of good lotion is no longer the price of YOUR good lotion, and yours isn't full of silicone and soybean oil.
Super cool, thanks for sharing your knowledge! I have plastered my body in lotion every day since I was 14...I would love to try making my own 💕
 
whimsps said:
Super cool, thanks for sharing your knowledge! I have plastered my body in lotion every day since I was 14...I would love to try making my own 💕
My dearest friend, the person I love more than anyone else who is not immediate family, the load-bearing central structure of my life, just caught herself a case of the cancer. She'll be ok, it's thyroid and the weak kind, but we're getting ready for her to be out of commission. I had our most considerate colleague in a three-way video chat interviewing her about her favorite things (so we can make up a tip sheet to hand people who come to one of us asking what they can do to support her or cheer her up), and she mentioned smelly lotions. I had a BIG old pause, and asked "I don't currently make your lotion. Why??" (I make all her soap and roast all of her coffee, and lotion is one of those things that's on offer for anyone I love who wants it). She said "I don't know. It never came up." You better believe I was on the internet THAT VERY NIGHT getting gluten free silk aminos and scents she'd like and stocking up on argan oil while I'm at it.
 
HereKittyKitty said:
You're a wonderful friend.
I'm actually not, and she IS. 😀 Which is exactly why she will never buy soap, coffee, or (now) lotion on MY watch. When people comment on it, she says "I am generously compensated for my love" which makes me lol.
 
randompersonrandom said:
My dearest friend, the person I love more than anyone else who is not immediate family, the load-bearing central structure of my life, just caught herself a case of the cancer. She'll be ok, it's thyroid and the weak kind, but we're getting ready for her to be out of commission. I had our most considerate colleague in a three-way video chat interviewing her about her favorite things (so we can make up a tip sheet to hand people who come to one of us asking what they can do to support her or cheer her up), and she mentioned smelly lotions. I had a BIG old pause, and asked "I don't currently make your lotion. Why??" (I make all her soap and roast all of her coffee, and lotion is one of those things that's on offer for anyone I love who wants it). She said "I don't know. It never came up." You better believe I was on the internet THAT VERY NIGHT getting gluten free silk aminos and scents she'd like and stocking up on argan oil while I'm at it.
You might want to use more natural scents for her especially while shes fighting it. Some are disrupters & known to cause these evil things.

For your specialty ingredients you also don't always have to heat those (depending on the emulsifier you're using). Especially if you use a stick blender (love those things). Used to make big batches!! 🙂
 
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