Mix T60 First Batch Mistake Results - 2025A512-09

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Airborne Daddy said:
Thanks for the heads up I was still able to delete my shitalking on his thread. Odd that the amount of reta takes it to the same overfill as the straight tirz, around 66mg I think.... seems calculated but that would never be admitted. Cross contamination would have been trace and small amounts like 1 or 2mg. Anyway now we gotta worry about every vendor that sold t60 with same cap color during the same period..... They're all chysters.... even though if the reta infused were all consistently 14.something mg it would work well.
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Don't get me wrong, I love seeing you work and always find your attack flights inspiring when true fuckery is afoot! Just didn't want to see you waste a good pitchfork when most of it was already done.
 
tncc_rn said:
I wonder if old Cain has pulled his most recently sourced batch of T60 since this news came out???

Mix sold out FAST on the last batch of T60, since someone bought it all in one shot.
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His pre-order t60 shipped out yesterday for 300 down from 515 which isn't too bad for free shipping actually.
 
randompersonrandom said:
Don't get me wrong, I love seeing you work and always find your attack flights inspiring when true fuckery is afoot! Just didn't want to see you waste a good pitchfork when most of it was already done.
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I'm always waiting for zip to say u best calm tf down lol.... just when I first got here people had been burnt (qsc) or shit product (asc) etc.... and a month later everyone else would buy like that's you're problem. Meso gets one guy legitimately ripped off or someone says they tested the raws but didn't it's 20 pages an hour of mortal combat until the vendor leaves or complies..... I'm too quick to call for a group stoning cuz i hurt for the victims and its happened to me several times in less than a year. Strength in numbers!
 
Airborne Daddy said:
Cuz I don't think 30,000 come in one big 55 gallon trashbag from various sources and batches unless that vendor buys qc fails for 3 cents. How tf do they get weights so close and purity closer than pharma with absolutely no quality control? Luck i guess... Why isn't it feasible they get boxed almost in a general order they were produced. At the factory.

You think they get say t30 vials loose in metal shipping containers? Shit comes in kits from the production line. China's more automated than anyone. It's not 1000 workers with huge tubs of mixed vials that get topped off every 3 hours....

had to edit this.... did ur first ever injection 4 days ago and said you havent researched glp1s much and now you're an expert on vendor product acquisition, manufacturing, quality control and packaging.
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Flattered you took the time to get caught up on my post history! Sincerely. I'm certainly no grey market peptide expert, but after 20 years in business auditing, I know a bit about supply chains and risk management. It reminds me of the old expression: "Good, Cheap, Fast. Pick two."

I agree with you about Chinese automation—that factory is likely hitting high purity for the bulk powder. But the risk isn't the initial synthesis. The problem is the "black box" of the supply chain: the incestuous string of middlemen who handle the product along the way.

We don’t have any assurances. This latest mixup is only one example and the forums are littered with others of various proportions, from purity and content errors to outright theft of funds. We are paying an unknown entity with crypto on anonymous encrypted messaging apps for product that is basically illegal for human use… It doesn’t take a whole lot of experience to understand the risks involved. We shouldn’t lie to ourselves about it

From an absolute purist standpoint, the only 100% guarantee a 3rd-party test of 1 vial proves is that single vial's contents. The rest is risk probability. We do our best to mitigate risk to our own tolerances. But, in the end, we’re all just betting our pinky that our lighter will ignite 10 times in a row. (+10 karma if you get the reference!)

Nothing in life is sure, but fear is always overpriced.
 
deleted.user.18 said:
the only 100% guarantee a 3rd-party test of 1 vial proves is that single vial's contents.
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I will test all vials next time just to be safe.
 
juGGaKNot said:
I will test all vials next time just to be safe.
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That is the sad reality. When you test a vial, the result is only valid for that vial that was tested. There is no guarantee that what comes in the vial before or after that tested vial will be close in dose or the same chemical as it tested for.

It's probable, but not guaranteed.

"when it comes to Grey, this is the way."
 
Airborne Daddy said:
I'm always waiting for zip to say u best calm tf down lol.... just when I first got here people had been burnt (qsc) or shit product (asc) etc.... and a month later everyone else would buy like that's you're problem. Meso gets one guy legitimately ripped off or someone says they tested the raws but didn't it's 20 pages an hour of mortal combat until the vendor leaves or complies..... I'm too quick to call for a group stoning cuz i hurt for the victims and its happened to me several times in less than a year. Strength in numbers!
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I'm 100% with you on that one; I got flammed on STG for giving the group a heads up on a provider that wasn't responding. If you are ina group like Meso, where you take care of each other, the outcome has a much higher chance of being a good one...
 
Airborne Daddy said:
I'm always waiting for zip to say u best calm tf down lol.... just when I first got here people had been burnt (qsc) or shit product (asc) etc.... and a month later everyone else would buy like that's you're problem. Meso gets one guy legitimately ripped off or someone says they tested the raws but didn't it's 20 pages an hour of mortal combat until the vendor leaves or complies..... I'm too quick to call for a group stoning cuz i hurt for the victims and its happened to me several times in less than a year. Strength in numbers!
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I'll bring my rocks!
 
Benito Camela said:
I'm 100% with you on that one; I got flammed on STG for giving the group a heads up on a provider that wasn't responding. If you are ina group like Meso, where you take care of each other, the outcome has a much higher chance of being a good one...
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This is the exact reason why STG is trash. They let power get to their heads. I hope they disappear soon. They're assholes.
 
tncc_rn said:
I wonder if old Cain has pulled his most recently sourced batch of T60 since this news came out???

Mix sold out FAST on the last batch of T60, since someone bought it all in one shot.

"Yep, he pulled em..." Just looked.

Edited again....

Looked again, he's still got the pre-order T60 for sale. 🙄
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Yeah, this is my concern. I bought in to the presale and will get my kit of the T60 on Tues. I'm definitely setting it aside until I see COA come in. I've got enough of the T30 with overfill to last me a couple of months, so I'm hoping sooner rather than later Cain will have posted the COA on his batches or some opportunity to group test will come along that I can join in.
 
randompersonrandom said:
I think they know about it and broke the story before anyone else did; posted an announcement on the discord and have been contacting customers to replace or refund. (Not defending them; there's no way I'd buy from a place that had this level of carelessness this early on.) I think the only question left was "ok, but is it at all useable for people who know about it and want to see if it's any good for them?", and it looks like the answer is no because the consistency is no good.
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The chart I saw showed you are not supposed to mix two glps..What happens if they use it?
 
tncc_rn said:
That is the sad reality. When you test a vial, the result is only valid for that vial that was tested. There is no guarantee that what comes in the vial before or after that tested vial will be close in dose or the same chemical as it tested for.

It's probable, but not guaranteed.

"when it comes to Grey, this is the way."
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This has been my thought from the beginning, especially when it comes to sterility testing. Sterility testing is a waste of money imo because it only guarantees the sterility of that one vial that was tested. And it's not even real sterility testing. They're not sterile. They pass based on an "acceptable" #. That's why I will never not filter. As for the other tests like purity and mass, we can feel better about our chances when multiple vials are tested from random donors - this at least gives us a general feel for that batch, but again, not a guarantee.

P.S.

I noticed your signature. Hello from just 20 minutes south of MV 😁
 
Airborne Daddy said:
Ur good it's another source had reta mixed in with its t60....
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Whew ok! Thank you! I just hopped over to the telegrp and see there is a group test in the works for the t60. Still a noob and learning!
 
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