Making my own blend of CJC/ IPA

[dirtyharry]

Anyone have any experiance making their own blend using seperate vials? I've been taking 150mcg(ish) of both IPA and CJC in the morning and at night. Its kind of annoying having to slowly get a small amount of each into the same syringe.

My idea:

Get 10mg Vial of CJC and 10mg Vial of IPA. Reconstitute one of them with 2ml of BAC water. Next, draw that 2ml solution into a syringe and reconstitute the other vial with that same 2ml solution (containing the other peptide). Finally, add the last 1.4ml of BAC water.

The one combined vial would then contain 10mg of IPA, 10mg of CJC, and 3.4ml of BAC water. This means when I draw my syringe to 5.1 units it would deliver 150mcg of each peptide. Also, I know the vials are only 3ml, but I saw that they can actually hold slightly more than 3ml.

 

[Calm Logic]

For some, including myself, using pens would make a lot more sense, avoiding the uncertainty of mixing. If you have to use a mix, I would just buy it already mixed, assuming that is less worse.

Another option is to use 6-mm syringes, which have a similar comfort/length to pen needles. Not as convenient as pens, but I inject four peptides (separately) in one sitting using them.

CJC and ipa are already concerning for immune reactions, so creating aggregates from mixing them is even less ideal than usual. Having a couple EpiPens or Neffy sprays is already a good idea, no matter what.

BTW, reta that was mixed with tesa/ipa in a vial:

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[dirtyharry]

For some, including myself, using pens would make a lot more sense, avoiding the uncertainty of mixing. If you have to use a mix, I would just buy it already mixed, assuming that is less worse.

CJC and ipa are already concerning for immune reactions, so creating aggregates from mixing them is not ideal.

BTW:

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I wasnt aware of there being immue reactions with these two. I've been drawing them into the same syringe for a few weeks now with no issue. Checked out that thread and a chart that was linked within it, says IPA & CJC are good to go. I suppose giving more oppertunity for endotoxins to exist would be a concern.

May just send it tbh.

 

[joseblo]

I've made my own blend of IPA/CJC, but I added 3ml to each vial, then tested those two vials in separate 6unit shots (opposite sides to check for any response), and then when they both looked good, warmed up the vials from the fridge over night and split those 1.5ml+1.5ml into two new vials. One vial stays in the fridge, and the other was filtered into a 3ml cartridge. For the COAs I had, I ended up with 0.24|0.19 mg of CJC|IPA in a 12unit shot. Going deeper/IM reduces immune response, but having Neffy/Epi around is a VERY good idea "just in case" and taking an antihistamine if you have ANY response is a good idea.

Personally, for regular use I wouldn't recommend going below 10units per pin, just because I don't expect better than 1unit of accuracy out of either a pen or syringe. Frankly, I don't expect the COAs to be better than 10% either.

Also, I waited on filtering the second vial, because if anything goes wrong in a few weeks (aggregation, growth, etc) I want to catch it and toss it (or filter it if it's invisible) before I inject.

 

[Calm Logic]

I wasnt aware of there being immue reactions with these two. I've been drawing them into the same syringe for a few weeks now with no issue. Checked out that thread and a chart that was linked within it, says IPA & CJC are good to go. I suppose giving more oppertunity for endotoxins to exist would be a concern.

May just send it tbh.

Anecdotally, like at Reddit, there are more reports of systemic immune reactions with those two (at least combined) than anything else other than maybe MOTS-c.

 

[dirtyharry]

I've made my own blend of IPA/CJC, but I added 3ml to each vial, then tested those two vials in separate 6unit shots (opposite sides to check for any response), and then when they both looked good, warmed up the vials from the fridge over night and split those 1.5ml+1.5ml into two new vials. One vial stays in the fridge, and the other was filtered into a 3ml cartridge. For the COAs I had, I ended up with 0.24|0.19 mg of CJC|IPA in a 12unit shot. Going deeper/IM reduces immune response, but having Neffy/Epi around is a VERY good idea "just in case" and taking an antihistamine if you have ANY response is a good idea.

Personally, for regular use I wouldn't recommend going below 10units per pin, just because I don't expect better than 1unit of accuracy out of either a pen or syringe. Frankly, I don't expect the COAs to be better than 10% either.

Also, I waited on filtering the second vial, because if anything goes wrong (aggregation, growth, etc) I want to catch it and toss it (or filter it if it's invisible) before I inject.

The only response I've ever really gotten from these two was the face flushing (which I strangely kinda like), body warmth, and slight irritation at injection site. All of this goes away completely within about 7 minutes.

 

[joseblo]

The only response I've ever really gotten from these two was the face flushing (which I strangely kinda like), body warmth, and slight irritation at injection site. All of this goes away completely within about 7 minutes.

I didn't get any response with an 8mm needle, other than some water weight gain, a desire to eat more, perhaps better recovery at workouts, and ~50% higher IGF1. It's doing something, whether it's worth it, I don't know. These were "free" from a friend.

 

[CNCCurrency]

I wasnt aware of there being immue reactions with these two. I've been drawing them into the same syringe for a few weeks now with no issue. Checked out that thread and a chart that was linked within it, says IPA & CJC are good to go. I suppose giving more oppertunity for endotoxins to exist would be a concern.

May just send it tbh.

I have been mixing them for over a year without any issues

 

[dirtyharry]

I have been mixing them for over a year without any issues

In the same vial to draw from like how I described or into the same syringe but two different vials?

 

[pilsnermagnus]

Anecdotally, like at Reddit, there are more reports of systemic immune reactions with those two (at least combined) than anything else other than maybe MOTS-c.

Reddit had quite a few anecdotes about this but the “I almost died from anaphylaxis “ story rarely if ever says how old the reconstituted pep was, and rarely do they disclose the dose. I read something where the receptors are fairly saturated around 100mcg for something like Cjc no dac. So maybe the immune response is a natural reaction to have an excessive amount of GHRP hanging around with no receptors thanks to its modification for longer half life.

I am currently using CJC no dac/Ipa premix 5/5 and was very modest with my approach. I am on my third 3ml cartridge using about 100mcg of each. I am only now starting to feel a very mild flush of my face. I hung around the 50-75mcg range for a while just to feel it out. Once this cartridge is empty I am doing a pause for about 4 weeks too. The anecdotes have me very aware though and I wonder if after the pause I will react differently.