礼来公司结束Tirz短缺

[杰斯·多布]

大家觉得这会对研究产生什么影响？听起来配药药房可能不得不停止运营。https ://www.reuters.com/business/he...-very-soon-bloomberg-news-reports-2024-08-01/

 

[Revo39564]

是的，这实际上会终结Tirz的复配生产……我怀疑中国仍然会继续生产。不幸的是，我也怀疑礼来公司会向中国政府施压，要求其打击非礼来公司生产的Tirz，因为中国在今年5月已经批准了该药。事态发展值得关注。

 

[milos]

我不认为中国政府会太在意某个美国公司……

 

[TroyLPN]

是的，这实际上会终结Tirz的复配生产……我怀疑中国仍然会继续生产。不幸的是，我也怀疑礼来公司会向中国政府施压，要求其打击非礼来公司生产的Tirz，因为中国在今年5月已经批准了该药。事态发展值得关注。

中国或许会继续生产，但我认为问题可能在于如何通过美国海关的检查。目前礼来公司可能因为研发Triz而损失不大，所以暂时不会太担心。但当大量目前服用Triz的消费者被迫面临以下三种选择时，情况可能会有所改变：A）停止用药；B）支付礼来公司高昂的零售价；C）寻找其他药物来源。

 

[brentm]

中国或许会继续生产，但我认为问题可能在于如何通过美国海关的检查。目前礼来公司可能因为研发Triz而损失不大，所以暂时不会太担心。但当大量目前服用Triz的消费者被迫面临以下三种选择时，情况可能会有所改变：A）停止用药；B）支付礼来公司高昂的零售价；C）寻找其他药物来源。

海关方面不会有任何改变。

我认为风险不会比现在更高或更低。

 

[Revo39564]

中国或许会继续生产，但我认为问题可能在于如何通过美国海关的检查。目前礼来公司可能因为研发Triz而损失不大，所以暂时不会太担心。但当大量目前服用Triz的消费者被迫面临以下三种选择时，情况可能会有所改变：A）停止用药；B）支付礼来公司高昂的零售价；C）寻找其他药物来源。

过海关不会很难。我得把肽和化妆品化学品区分开来。配制者将被迫停止这种做法。

 

[clevesand]

中国或许会继续生产，但我认为问题可能在于如何通过美国海关的检查。目前礼来公司可能因为研发Triz而损失不大，所以暂时不会太担心。但当大量目前服用Triz的消费者被迫面临以下三种选择时，情况可能会有所改变：A）停止用药；B）支付礼来公司高昂的零售价；C）寻找其他药物来源。

我们生活在一个无法阻止芬太尼泛滥的国家……

 

[Revo39564]

我们生活在一个无法阻止芬太尼泛滥的国家……

Of course not China supplies precursor chemicals in large quanties to Mexico well … Chinese government even gives them manufacturers tax incentives …..::

 

[mostlydamp]

Even if getting it through customs gets harder, the Chinese companies probably won't just shrug their shoulders and give up. There would just be a higher priority on domestic shipping/warehouses and an increase on price. There is already domestic warehouse tirz for sale from QSC and probably others.

 

[SmokeySquid]

I figure if enough people are successful in moving to research, you are going to start seeing a lot of 5 o'clock news pieces about people hurting themselves using research peps. True or not I imagine the next step is to try and put the screws on the end user since it will be too hard to stop it coming into the country, just like fent.

Not sure what the screws are going to be but I would not be shocked to see peps put on the controlled substance list.

 

[Revo39564]

I figure if enough people are successful in moving to research, you are going to start seeing a lot of 5 o'clock news pieces about people hurting themselves using research peps. True or not I imagine the next step is to try and put the screws on the end user since it will be too hard to stop it coming into the country, just like fent.

Not sure what the screws are going to be but I would not be shocked to see peps put on the controlled substance list.

I had a patient at the walk in clinic I work a couple weeks ago that overdosed on compounded tirzepatide. She took 10 mg of it . She hadn’t taken it for over six months, but for some reason kept it. She was on compounded semaglutide and mixed them up. Severe dehydration, nausea, vomiting , diarrhea, muscle cramps, dizziness. She looked horrible.::: didn’t call the local news though lol

 

[raw_oyster_eater]

I had a patient at the walk in clinic I work a couple weeks ago that overdosed on compounded tirzepatide. She took 10 mg of it . She hadn’t taken it for over six months, but for some reason kept it. She was on compounded semaglutide and mixed them up. Severe dehydration, nausea, vomiting , diarrhea, muscle cramps, dizziness. She looked horrible.::: didn’t call the local news though lol

I'm skeptical. Some people are a mess and some have mental issues. Some people take other things and are not forthcoming. I hate to see a good thing slandered.

The fen-phen was an excellent drug that helped millions but had to be taken off the market because a hand full of people had some problems. I was so pissed off. My wife was doing so well and starting to look hot again when they stopped the party.

 

[Dee X]

My wife was doing so well and starting to look hot again when they stopped the party.

Bruh...

 

[Laxfinity]

I had a patient at the walk in clinic I work a couple weeks ago that overdosed on compounded tirzepatide. She took 10 mg of it . She hadn’t taken it for over six months, but for some reason kept it. She was on compounded semaglutide and mixed them up. Severe dehydration, nausea, vomiting , diarrhea, muscle cramps, dizziness. She looked horrible.::: didn’t call the local news though lol

A friend's wife was on Wegovy. It had been on backorder for months. When she started taking it again she did at her ending dosage... just 1.7mg. She was so sick. I knew exactly what was going on and told him to get her to an urgent care... he didn't. She suffered for 5 days straight vomiting, dehydrated.. everything you stated.

 

[TroyLPN]

I figure if enough people are successful in moving to research, you are going to start seeing a lot of 5 o'clock news pieces about people hurting themselves using research peps. True or not I imagine the next step is to try and put the screws on the end user since it will be too hard to stop it coming into the country, just like fent.

Not sure what the screws are going to be but I would not be shocked to see peps put on the controlled substance list.

That's my biggest concern. I'm hoping to have enough in the freezer to last a few years by the time that happens.

 

[Revo39564]

I'm skeptical. Some people are a mess and some have mental issues. Some people take other things and are not forthcoming. I hate to see a good thing slandered.

The fen-phen was an excellent drug that helped millions but had to be taken off the market because a hand full of people had some problems. I was so pissed off. My wife was doing so well and starting to look hot again when they stopped the party.

Heart valve damage is pretty big side effect

 

[TroyLPN]

A friend's wife was on Wegovy. It had been on backorder for months. When she started taking it again she did at her ending dosage... just 1.7mg. She was so sick. I knew exactly what was going on and told him to get her to an urgent care... he didn't. She suffered for 5 days straight vomiting, dehydrated.. everything you stated.

That's awful, but, dare-I-say almost reassuring, in a way. I was afraid that once you build up a tolerance to the meds it could take at least a year or 2 before they might be effective for you again. Maybe if the tirz stops working at the high doses I could do something else for a few months, then go back to tirz? I have a absolute horror of going back to constant food noise, zero appetite control, hungry-all-the-freakin'-time, food-addicted, obesity land.

 

[Revo39564]

A friend's wife was on Wegovy. It had been on backorder for months. When she started taking it again she did at her ending dosage... just 1.7mg. She was so sick. I knew exactly what was going on and told him to get her to an urgent care... he didn't. She suffered for 5 days straight vomiting, dehydrated.. everything you stated.

Yeah it was horrible for her. Toradol, Zofran a s 2 liters of fluid helped ……

 

[raw_oyster_eater]

Heart valve damage is pretty big side effect

how many. 6 people? out of millions the drug helped. how many died without access to the drug?

 

[SmokeySquid]

That's my biggest concern. I'm hoping to have enough in the freezer to last a few years by the time that happens.

What is your comfort level when it comes to how long it might last in the freezer? I have considered doing this a few times but always stop myself because I just can't stand the thought of buying a bunch of peps that will either go bad before I can use them or wont need to use at all.