Lab results far less than expected.

Status
Not open for further replies.
HARLEYV2 said:
How many Corporate Espionage movies have you seen on Netflix, and Prime ?

I could easily wrap this into the screenplay that I'm working on where a Chinese vendor's peptides are enroute to the airport and are substituted with zero peptide kits. The masterminds of the scheme are Big Pharma executives being advised by an Internet AI ghost writer.

Does anyone have contacts in LA that you can hook me up with? Just send me their TG handle. Many thanks, Dear.
 
Fuck them. Id absolutely mention it here to save another 20 poor souls. Its not gonna be a mistake.
 
boytres said:
I have to agree, all those wrongs ain't suddenly gonna make a right. At the very least if someone is sitting on the same stuff they'd know to at least pause their use.
 
Redz said:
Is the vendor on this site? I’m about to order from ERP in a few days.

FWIW, I had some testing done with a group on ERP peps and they came back as expected.

Group isn't releasing the tests though after vote, shame too, helps others make informed choices but democracy prevails in this scenario...
 
articfox said:
They have coa’s but not for the batch’s I ended up with but are adament that the raws are the same as previous batches with coas. They supposedly keep samples from every batch and are now sending them for testing.
Call me a skeptic but I would put money on their testing coming back clean and with no issues. Who's to say they wont just send the actual peps they are testing for as opposed to the batch you were sent?

They will then say they don't know what happened and reship to you, with the thoughts you won't pay for more testing and given they provided their coa's for their legit tests.

You may or may or may not receive what you actually paid for. Probably not given 6 out of 6 failures first tike round.

Thats just my thoughts on this shit situation you find yourself in.

I would out the bastards in youre position, but that's me, and you are your own person.

sincerely hope you get the resolution you deserve bud!
 
Airborne Daddy said:
Fuck them. Id absolutely mention it here to save another 20 poor souls
This is a good argument, I would just avoid too much commentary.

zero peps is scary and, if they are your personal test results, you can post for the benefit of the community.

Whatever the reason for this, it is not likely to be an isolated incedent.
 
Scammed without any doubt

articfox said:
Hi All

I am needing some advice.

I have sent six samples to Janoshik for testing, the results I have received are terrible with five out of the six being a total fail. 5 samples are from one vendor, and the other from another that passed.

Here are the samples and results:

BC10- Not Detected

TB10- Not Detected

TR10- Not Detected

TSM10- Not Detected

SM10- Not Detected

CU50- 99.6 Percent

These are the scenarios I am wondering.

1. The heat has damaged them but not the cu50 ?

2. Somehow they have been damaged by customs maybe by x ray ?

3, I have been taken for a ride.

All the samples were sent together, I am about to send one of the items that didnt pass to another testing facility as this will no doubt confirm what has happened.

Yes the items were purchased from a vendor on here, I am not going to mention names or create a dispute. They have been informed and its now up to getting another test. They have coa’s but not for the batch’s I ended up with but are adament that the raws are the same as previous batches with coas. They supposedly keep samples from every batch and are now sending them for testing.

Yeah I know its probably looking like option 3 but maybe cu50 is way less sensitive ?

Any way id really appreciate some experienced input here, if anyone can spare some time.

Thank you.
 
articfox said:
I have sent six samples to Janoshik for testing, the results I have received are terrible with five out of the six being a total fail. 5 samples are from one vendor, and the other from another that passed.
Links to Jano's test results?
 
boytres said:
FWIW, I had some testing done with a group on ERP peps and they came back as expected.

Group isn't releasing the tests though after vote, shame too, helps others make informed choices but democracy prevails in this scenario...
I paid in some of those tests as well. I don't really care if they are released or not. By not it gets more people to chip in to lower costs. A lot of those people are resellers, and they will use tests everyone else paid for to hawk their shit !
 
HARLEYV2 said:
I paid in some of those tests as well. I don't really care if they are released or not. By not it gets more people to chip in to lower costs. A lot of those people are resellers, and they will use tests everyone else paid for to hawk their shit !
I totally agree with you, its a bit shit when people intentionally freeload however, if no one shared with the community, we would all be pinning and praying or substantially out of pocket for our gray peps.

We all started out and were guided by free resources that likely cost others funds, so it's kinda full circle in my eyes. I'd like to give back where I can.
 
boytres said:
I totally agree with you, its a bit shit when people intentionally freeload however, if no one shared with the community, we would all be pinning and praying or substantially out of pocket for our gray peps.

We all started out and were guided by free resources that likely cost others funds, so it's kinda full circle in my eyes. I'd like to give back where I can.
I don't disagree, but the group voted and it's the way they went. I think they will release it all after a while. Just not the latest testing. The Reta 10 has been tested out the Ass.
 
articfox said:
I am only guessing, I did look up the temperatures of the destinations they traveled through. 30c in Czech republic as they were delayed a day.
A lab has said in another forum that unless your peps died in a fire, they would be able to tell what pep it was by its signature. There is no way that transport conditions can knock the content down to zero.

Zero peps are an epidemic right now. Some manufacturer is flooding the market. Many vendors are just resellers and shovel them out the door. In most cases, they barely know what they're selling, if at all. You need to find a vendor you trust that has consistent testing, or an active test group, and stay there, even if it costs a little more. This is the worst time to try a new vendor I've seen in over 2 years, and certainly if you buy based on lowest price. Let's be careful out there.
 
Chili777 said:
Zero peps are an epidemic right now. Some manufacturer is flooding the market. Many vendors are just resellers and shovel them out the door. In most cases, they barely know what they're selling, if at all.

My recollection is that in an interview a couple of months ago that Peter said the majority of the zero peptide results he was seeing at that time were not from end-user testing, but rather vendors testing new manufacturing sources.

But now, given the fact that we’re seeing a lot of end-user tests coming back with zero peptides, clearly some vendors not testing their new sources and just unleashing these kits. It’s definitely time not to chase price and work with established vendors even if it costs a little more.
 
boytres said:
if no one shared with the community, we would all be pinning and praying or substantially out of pocket for our gray peps.
I think the standard is sound: test results are released to the public only when truly dangerous situations are identified. Other end-users would be wise to learn about over- and under-fills, make it their business to have reliable CoAs, and recon based on identified mass rather than nominal ... I always do, but then I'm cavalier about all sorts of other things like use-by timelines and freezing reconned tirzepatide. It's a YMMV, I guess.

Chili777 said:
There is no way that transport conditions can knock the content down to zero.
Exactly. And (at least to my oxymoronic uninformed knowledge,) the CN warehouses these peps sit in for who knows how long aren't climate-controlled, including in summer-hot southern cities. Baking.
 
I need to place an order. Please post the source so I don't make a big mistake. Or message me if you need privacy. I will not post your source.
 
Grogu said:
My recollection is that in an interview a couple of months ago that Peter said the majority of the zero peptide results he was seeing at that time were not from end-user testing, but rather vendors testing new manufacturing sources.
The funny thing about that testing though, is that multiple vendors pile into the same test. All they have to do is pay Jano $35 and bingo, a test with their name on it. The names just have to be requested at the time of the testing, and not afterwards, I believe. Are all these vendors really selling the same thing? 🤔

Ever wonder how deep that vendor practice runs? Here's some new info:

Duplicate COA Detection

Same physical test, multiple vendor brands. When the same certificate is reissued under different vendor names, we surface it here.

researchverify.com
 
Fwiw, just came across posts on X which I believe are related to this story-the vendor is not one who has been mentioned on this forum/does not come up in a search
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Trending content

Members online

No members online now.

Forum statistics

Threads
4,464
Messages
89,269
Members
8,119
Latest member
hannahcellstrains
Back
Top