Klow and The Grey in da newz. .

[DustAndDignity]

I like peptides.

You too!!? That’s crazy. I like them as well. Let’s join a forum to talk about them!

 

[mybodyisasewer]

lol. Calling me a liar is a little excessive considering I said he was facing allegations/charges, not “convicted”.

Respectfully, some of what you wrote is framed in a way that suggests total exoneration when that’s not really the reality either. There are still ongoing investigations, civil proceedings, extradition matters, and active legal disputes tied to him across multiple countries. The UK Crown Prosecution Service also publicly confirmed in 2025 that it had authorized multiple charges against the Tate brothers, including rape, human trafficking, and actual bodily harm.

More importantly though, my broader point had very little to do with legal semantics and more to do with cultural idolization . If someone’s public image is repeatedly intertwined with allegations involving rape, trafficking, coercion, exploitation, misogyny, etc., I personally don’t think “well technically…” changes the larger cultural conversation all that much.

Honestly, adults should be able to disagree on interpretation without immediately jumping to calling someone a liar or claiming they’re excluded from the “adult conversation.” Follow the rest of this thread and observe how everyone commenting is doing so in a manner to elevate the conversations even while respectfully disagreeing vs. name calling to drag the convos down.

You used the exact phrase "multiple rape and human trafficking charges" and that is simply false. I don't need 3 paragraphs of cope. It may have been true last year, but not this year. You need to stay current on these things if you are going to speak confidently about them.

Exoneration isn't a legal standard. Either they have the receipts or they don't. Also being "investigated" is meaningless because that just means the government is trying to find dirt, it doesn't mean they will find any.

The UK Crown Prosecution Service also publicly confirmed in 2025 that it had authorized multiple charges against the Tate brothers, including rape, human trafficking, and actual bodily harm.

Oh my GOD. It's like you didn't even read my post. I just told you the UK CPS dropped those charges in September last year. Go use Google or something, look it up. Why are you even here? Are you just trying to ragebait?

I also like how you handwave the "legal semantics" as a cheap cop out when you are caught lying. (Twice now)

If someone’s public image is repeatedly intertwined with allegations involving rape, trafficking, coercion, exploitation, misogyny, etc., I personally don’t think “well technically…” changes the larger cultural conversation all that much.

The only reason his image is intertwined with these allegations is because of liars and ignorant people. People are going to see the image they want to see. I see a guy who is so slimy that Western governments will literally make stuff to try and hurt him.

Honestly, adults should be able to disagree on interpretation without immediately jumping to calling someone a liar or claiming they’re excluded from the “adult conversation.” Follow the rest of this thread and observe how everyone commenting is doing so in a manner to elevate the conversations even while respectfully disagreeing vs. name calling to drag the convos down.

You think this is a matter of interpretation? He has one civil rape case in the UK and a criminal Romanian case that has been dead in the water for over a year. The way you oversold that is beyond interpretation. Just admit that the legal system as been unable to bring the receipts. It's ok to call him a bad person, just try and be truthful in your argument.

 

[DustAndDignity]

You say “stay current” while confidently collapsing multiple cases into one and then requesting truthfulness within my statements.

The Sept. 2025 CPS decision you’re referencing involved the allegations tied to the four-woman civil matter. That is not the same thing as the separate Bedfordshire/Operation Moonwalk case. As of May 2026, the CPS still appears to have authorized multiple charges against the Tate brothers, including rape, human trafficking, ABH, and controlling prostitution for gain. They were literally seeking assurances they would not be arrested upon returning to the UK.

So maybe pump the brakes on the “go use Google” routine when the legal picture is clearly more complicated than the version you’re presenting.

Second, again I never claimed conviction. My point from the beginning was about cultural perception and public idolization. Those are not dependent on a conviction standard. Adults evaluate patterns, behavior, recordings, statements, associations, and repeated allegations all the time when assessing character.

And honestly, your framework seems oddly binary:

“No conviction = basically meaningless.”

That’s your standard. Fine. but that doesn’t make everyone else dishonest for using a broader lens when evaluating public figures.

calling people “liars,” “ragebaiters,” and saying they don’t belong in the “adult conversation” while simultaneously oversimplifying the legal reality yourself is a little ironic.

I’m completely open to correcting procedural specifics. That’s what intellectually honest conversations look like. Are you equally open to adjusting your framing now that it’s been pointed out there are still active UK legal issues beyond the civil case you referenced? If not take this to DMs, if so be a man and hold your self accountable in this thread.

 

[Smiter]

Guys, keep it off this thread, please.

 

[Smiter]

I like peptides.

You don't say!!! Who do you like most?

 

[DustAndDignity]

You don't say!!! Who do you like most?

I’m going with Tirz and Tesa. KLOw and KPV are right on their tails. Who do you like most @Smiter and @birdwhacker?

 

[birdwhacker]

You don't say!!! Who do you like most?

Peptide Pete, for sure.

I’m going with Tirz and Tesa. KLOw and KPV are right on their tails. Who do you like most @Smiter and @birdwhacker ?

Man all I know is I am SO hyped for some stuff to come in this week! I have a bad gut because I used to drink rubbing alcohol as a teenager, and BPC and KPV are both coming in this week. I'm mad because I ordered tb500 from China impatiently so that's not coming in for another month.

Meanwhile Epithalon and Bronchogen are coming in. Huge for me because now I can cycle wome DSIP with epi for sleep. And bronchogen's big because I had a pulmonary embolism a while ago.

I just love peptides so damn much. Next month we should get some SS31, first a 10 kit then a 50 kit plus some extra motsc. Also gonna try 5AM1 too!

I just love peptides

 

[Smiter]

I just love peptides

Fvck, you weren't kidding. You could probably bankroll the entire industry on your own. Okay, confess right now. Your surname is some etymological variant of stein, berg or something, correct? Forgive anything I might have said that offended you before. I'm sorry.

Who do you like most @Smiter

For me, it is hands-down peg MGF, but Reta is poised to turn it into a threesome.

 

[Smiter]

I have a bad gut because I used to drink rubbing alcohol as a teenager

You sure you got a 12 on the purity test? was there a "-" minus sign to the left of twelve?

 

[Smiter]

I am going to the gym after more than a week off. First time since the 2nd Reta dose.

 

[birdwhacker]

Your surname is some etymological variant of stein, berg or something, correct?

It's Epstein.

For me, it is hands-down peg MGF, but Reta is poised to turn it into a threesome.

Getting pegged in an MMF threesome? Sign me up.

You sure you got a 12 on the purity test? was there a "-" minus sign to the left of twelve?

Damn sure did. Even let them keep a couple of points.

 

[Smiter]

Getting pegged in an MMF threesome?

tsk tsk... It's an MFF. Typos can be such a bane.

Okay, gonna head to the gym now. On modafinil, Euphoria, Salbutamol IN, Nitro Wood, and Cognisport,

 

[DustAndDignity]

Peptide Pete, for sure.

Man all I know is I am SO hyped for some stuff to come in this week! I have a bad gut because I used to drink rubbing alcohol as a teenager, and BPC and KPV are both coming in this week. I'm mad because I ordered tb500 from China impatiently so that's not coming in for another month.

Meanwhile Epithalon and Bronchogen are coming in. Huge for me because now I can cycle wome DSIP with epi for sleep. And bronchogen's big because I had a pulmonary embolism a while ago.

I just love peptides so damn much. Next month we should get some SS31, first a 10 kit then a 50 kit plus some extra motsc. Also gonna try 5AM1 too!

I just love peptides

Shit, I forgot all about SS-31, it was one of the first peps I ran before jumping into Mots-C.

Are you going to research KPV orally or sub-Q. Based on my limited understanding oral KPV is better suited for true gut healing vs Sub-Q KPV which is better suited of systemic effects.

I’m debating when to start researching Epi. Have you ran it before?

I found that I responded better to 5AM1 tablets vs sub-Q.

 

[birdwhacker]

Shit, I forgot all about SS-31, it was one of the first peps I ran before jumping into Mots-C.

What did you think of it?

Are you going to research KPV orally or sub-Q.

Definirely SubQ at first. I also have some skin issues that I'm really fucking sick of dealing with.

I’m debating when to start researching Epi. Have you ran it before?

I have not. Somebody on here said they do 1mg a night for 20 days out of the month. That sounds pretty cool so I'll try it lol.

DSIP is fun too. I went through a 10mg vial pretty quickly and did some 1mg+ doses. I loved it. But I'm giving it a rest for the moment. Great dreams.

I found that I responded better to 5AM1 tablets vs sub-Q.

Always something. If I had $5000 for peptides I'd have it spent in a month. Feels like a fucking gold rush.

 

[Troposphere]

Guys, keep it off this thread, please.

In all fairness to them, you brought up the Tater.

 

[Smiter]

In all fairness to them, you brought up the Tater.

Why you gotta do me like that, bro? I mention one word, and you hold me responsible for My Lai? Anyway, since I just came back from a superb day at the gym, and since I am in a stellar mood, I will play the messiah and accept the weight of this sin. Alright, my bad, I apologize for bringing a word into a civil discourse without holding myself responsible for the words of others. So, how are things going in the lowest level of the atmosphere? That damn stratos is not giving you too much trouble, is she?

 

[CNCCurrency]

I wonder why collectivist sentiment is on the rise. It's almost as if there were 600 million people on the entire planet in 1600 AD, and now there are more than eight billion. A literally unfathomable number of people.

Thank God. There's a green film on the surface of the pond, I shudder to imagine the depths.

Agreed about MSM attention. Please don't tell the ER you're using peptides the next time you OD on cagri

Please dumb it down for me!

 

[Smiter]

If I had $5000 for peptides I'd have it spent in a month

Weak sauce. Mine would vanish in a day. I'm back kiddies.

Please dumb it down for me!

Dude, not again.. lease don't tempt me. Use DMs.

 

[Smiter]

Please dumb it down for me!

He's saying that one has to be extremely cautious of voicing certain opinions in the mainstream public discourse because the illusion of liberty is illusory.

 

[CNCCurrency]

He's saying that one has to be extremely cautious of voicing certain opinions in the mainstream public discourse because the illusion of liberty is illusory.