Interesting article about tracing the gray market through the block chain.

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That is actually really quite good, one of the few mainstream articles I have ever seen with a fairly accurate description on the grey market for peptides, and has some useful info on scale, as I have often wondered just how many people are using grey glp's or grey peptides in general, but there is really no easy way to find out, but $33 million in the last quarter in crypto is at least some idea.
 
Recently I had someone ask me about my weight loss which turned into them asking me last night if I could give them some as well. I talked them through my process and let them know risks and all that.

For myself I know the risks but this interaction had me lingering on one thought (supplemented by the fact we had just finished the last season of Euphoria), I'm sure there's a non-zero chance that some of these suppliers either currently or in the past had some fentanyl manufacturing going on. The vendor I use recently had one shipment where one peptide was sent but whatever was in the vial was a different peptide.

Been thinking a lot about that, nothing in particular just the feeling of what if. Cross contamination or even a straight up mix up like that could happen. Just funny reading this now (really good article overall), but noting the link of some of them to manufacturing fent.
 
SSA was the best vendor I had, cheap reliable and no fuss, and was very popular here before they vanished, it was interesting to see they supplied fentanyl precursors, but realistically cross contamination with peptides and fentanyl has to be very unlikely . The processes used and even the machines are going to be different, cross contamination from a different peptide is far more likely, from inadequate cleaning of the machine when switching from one peptide to another for example.
 
Peter to the rescue,​[archived internal link]
Janoshik and the collapse of independent safety testing​[archived internal link]
While the financial infrastructure of the gray-market peptide ecosystem has matured, the risk management of its participants has declined. This dynamic is best illustrated by examining the on-chain footprint of Janoshik. Operating out of Czechia, Janoshik is widely recognized as the gold standard for independent chemical purity testing within the underground peptide and steroid communities. Since 2023, wallets suspected to be associated with the laboratory have received over $12 million in cryptocurrency for its testing services.
 
bay_area_schizo said:
very eye opening article. thanks for posting this! I'm shocked that the vendors crypto is so traceable.
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Me too. so much for my belief that crypto is anonymous.
 
I blame the broccoli head brigade! they giving up the game on fuckin Tik Tok 🤬
 
CNCCurrency said:
Me too. so much for my belief that crypto is anonymous.
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they even called out DEPU who I just placed a chunky order with
 
sheilarae74 said:
Oh, it is WAY more than 100 million a year shadow economy. 🤣
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Yep. If the bathtub boys made $15 million in a couple of years, and they represent only a small sliver, it’s several multiples of $100 million.
 
CJsMom said:
Yep. If the bathtub boys made $15 million in a couple of years, and they represent only a small sliver, it’s several multiples of $100 million.
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They're only capturing block chain transactions. That leaves every other avenue for payment out of that total, which is substantial.
 
Chili777 said:
They're only capturing block chain transactions. That leaves every other avenue for payment out of that total, which is substantial.
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Not to mention the other wallets they weren't able to trace.
 
bay_area_schizo said:
very eye opening article. thanks for posting this! I'm shocked that the vendors crypto is so traceable.
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Its incredible easy to trace larger wallets with the right software all you need to do is make one transaction with them and trace from there.

Ive ordered from three suppliers this week with crypto and was very surprised to see that only one of them was using one transaction to one wallet system which at least has potential to make it slightly more difficult.

The other two were just accepting money straight into a single wallet, which was relatively easy to check balances and see where money was going even just with solscan.

They could of course at some point stick it through tornado or something to hide the main wallet so the 100m in this article might not be top of the pyramid.
 
Interesting article, but other than that looks like forum is pretty infiltrated 😮
 
ultima thule said:
Interesting article, but other than that looks like forum is pretty infiltrated 😮
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The forum is open to read without an account.
 
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