Insomnia

[GTS97]

I am sleeping really well with the coconut coir mat from Thailand that is about an inch and a half thick. This allows for airflow and cooling that I never got with a traditional mattress.

Sufficient airflow sounds very nice. My wife sleeps HOT and sweaty I’ll definitely look that up, too! Thanks for sharing.

 

[GTS97]

I also have these problems, on weekends during the day I can sleep but at night I just don't sleep well. I have tried L-tryptophan, melatonin, ashwaghanda, magnesium glycinate everything but nothing helps. I have also tested Epitalon but also without success. The only thing that helped in the beginning was zopiclone, but unfortunately the body gets used to it and you have to increase the dose. Now with Reta, of course, I sleep even worse

What’s your exercise like? Diet? Sleep hygiene?

 

[Chrissven]

What’s your exercise like? Diet? Sleep hygiene?

I regularly go to bed at the same time during the week. I always get up right away. I don't do any diet, I try to maintain muscles and lose fat.

 

[GTS97]

I regularly go to bed at the same time during the week. I always get up right away. I don't do any diet, I try to maintain muscles and lose fat.

You “don’t do any diet”? Do you eat poorly then?

 

[Chrissven]

You “don’t do any diet”? Do you eat poorly then?

No, not really. Lots of quark, skyr, red berries, oatmeal, rice, chicken, red meat, lots of mixed vegetables, eggs...

 

[sfkid]

Anyone else insomniacs? I don't sleep well but when I do it's during the day because I'm a night owl. To many years of nightshift work when I was working. I don't know many nights owls so I research a lot nothingness.

Anyone else the same here?

like diet and exercise , sleep takes effort. I also found out the hard way. You need to have a solid nightly routine and following it if you want to have any impact.

Things that worked for me.

#1 NO PHONE / COMPUTER before bed.

#2 500+ mg of Magnesium glycinate

#3 20mg of Melatonin

#4 get to bed early... (I force my self to be in bed and all lights out by 11:00pm).

Its not going to have an impact on day one but if you follow through , after 1 week you should start to see sleep improve.

 

[BH_LOVER]

I'm not a night owl, but I haven't slept well in 3 years.

My doctor won't give me meds because they're all addictive.

I just found out about DSIP peptide.

And I already ordered my Mots-C last week..

My issue with Rx was the unbelievable stuff I did while on it. I slept great, did not get addicted, stopped in one day with no issues, but the stuff I would do and be completly unaway was scary.

 

[Chrissven]

like diet and exercise , sleep takes effort. I also found out the hard way. You need to have a solid nightly routine and following it if you want to have any impact.

Things that worked for me.

#1 NO PHONE / COMPUTER before bed.

#2 500+ mg of Magnesium glycinate

#3 20mg of Melatonin

#4 get to bed early... (I force my self to be in bed and all lights out by 11:00pm).

Its not going to have an impact on day one but if you follow through , after 1 week you should start to see sleep improve.

Melatonin I take 5mg only and magnesium citrate and glycinate I take both.

But I always have my cell phone with me

 

[FarmgirlRebel]

Anyone else insomniacs? I don't sleep well but when I do it's during the day because I'm a night owl. To many years of nightshift work when I was working. I don't know many nights owls so I research a lot nothingness.

Anyone else the same here?

Well, I completely feel your pain.

36 years of shift work mostly in a 9-1-1 Dispatch Center...high cortisol levels tanked my ability to sleep well...sometimes I would fall into a insomnia cycle and it almost hospitalized me once.

Insomnia is horrible. After I retired, it got even worse.

I have finally gotten a grip on the situation and no longer have to take Traz, which was also starting to not work for me.

What finally worked for me was cutting out almost all sugar and highly processed foods.

NAD+ for mitochondrial support

Epithalon 20 day cycle

TA-1 cycle

Methalyne Blue 5mg added upon waking up

Going outside first thing in the morning (not sure you can do this if still working shifts) and getting morning sun.

Learning not to freak out if I couldn't fall asleep...and this is where I differ from some people. I will put on a rather dry, but interesting podcast at a low level and just listen to the person speak (usually has to be a man with a low voice)...for some reason, this helps me relax, not fight for sleep and lets me drift off.

 

[laansasa]

I have sleep issues, too. Night owl and can't fall asleep. Started DSIP and CJC 2 weeks ago and it helps. Not a sedative but helps circadian rhythm. I plan to add IPA since the 3 are the "sleep optimization" stack.

I take like 6 sleep supplements which also help. High cortisol is a real pain.

 

[freedbondage]

Hello fellow insomniacs. Another former shift worker now stuck in the reverse sleep cycle.

 

[WLBLD]

Have no idea why always been more awake at night. Haven't worked at night since I was much much younger. Been waking up in the middle of the night around 3 something almost every night. This is when I have my best ideas (or things I don't want to think about). Magnesium helps me sleep better, so does metformin. I take those on & off.

 

[CharlieBrown]

You could try Trazadone, non-addictive works fairly well for alot of people till it don't. It's an old school Physcho med, I was on it for 5 years and could normally get 5-7 hours sleep. You can essily get online telehealth Rx as well.

Dsip & Epithalon did nothing for me, CJC-1295 no dac with Ipamorelin does help me a little and Melatinon is ok.

Trazadone. That's what my Dr. prescribed; 50mg. I think I stopped taking it because I woke up feeling groggy. He will not prescribe anything that can be addictive.

Thank you, I will try it again starting tonight.

 

[RubbaDubba1]

Trazadone. That's what my Dr. prescribed; 50mg. I think I stopped taking it because I woke up feeling groggy. He will not prescribe anything that can be addictive.

Thank you, I will try it again starting tonight.

Funny you post that today, I just put in for my Rx of Belsomra. I've been off work for 7 weeks with a surgery, still can't get any damn sleep. Six hours one day, then 4 another and wake up 3X ugghhhh! The Belsomra is $450, fortunately, it's covered this year since I hit my out of pocket and I just hope it works.

If not, I did see some people have some luck with DSIP & Epithalon in a nasal spray is my back-up to try. The Injection didn't work, but I'll try about anything.

Not trying to play Dr for ya, but Trazadone has a score mark and I would split it. I would take half 1-2 hours before bed, then the other half before bed or half before bed and when I woke up (always did) to use the facilities, take the other half. This help to extend my sleep and reduce how groggy I felt when I woke up. It helped for a couple years, but my Dr didn't want me on the highest dose and I started trying other stuff. I wish you luck.

 

[CharlieBrown]

Funny you post that today, I just put in for my Rx of Belsomra. I've been off work for 7 weeks with a surgery, still can't get any damn sleep. Six hours one day, then 4 another and wake up 3X ugghhhh! The Belsomra is $450, fortunately, it's covered this year since I hit my out of pocket and I just hope it works.

If not, I did see some people have some luck with DSIP & Epithalon in a nasal spray is my back-up to try. The Injection didn't work, but I'll try about anything.

Not trying to play Dr for ya, but Trazadone has a score mark and I would split it. I would take half 1-2 hours before bed, then the other half before bed or half before bed and when I woke up (always did) to use the facilities, take the other half. This help to extend my sleep and reduce how groggy I felt when I woke up. It helped for a couple years, but my Dr didn't want me on the highest dose and I started trying other stuff. I wish you luck.

Thank you ! Don't worry about playing DR. I loved it as a child....lol

It's a great idea. I googled it and found interesting posts......

- My doctor prescribed 50 mg pills and told me to split the tablet in half and take at night before I go to bed. WOW! What a great relief! I CAN SLEEP without the side effects of Ambien!

And another....

- I was first prescribed 50 mg to start, but quickly cut my dose to 25 mg because I didn't like the side effects of a foggy head in the morning. That dose worked for me, and I got the most consistent sleep I'd had for a long time.

So thank you for the advice !!!

 

[CharlieBrown]

Thank you ! Don't worry about playing DR. I loved it as a child....lol

It's a great idea. I googled it and found interesting posts......

- My doctor prescribed 50 mg pills and told me to split the tablet in half and take at night before I go to bed. WOW! What a great relief! I CAN SLEEP without the side effects of Ambien!

And another....

- I was first prescribed 50 mg to start, but quickly cut my dose to 25 mg because I didn't like the side effects of a foggy head in the morning. That dose worked for me, and I got the most consistent sleep I'd had for a long time.

So thank you for the advice !!!

I took the 25mg at 10pm. I was tired, but it still took 1.5hrs to fall asleep.

I did not wake up till 5am and fell asleep quickly until the alarm woke me up at 630am.

I felt really sleepy; I should have stayed in bed. I got up did yoga and stretched.

Headed to the gym for 8am. I walked in with my eyes half closed. The worst workout I ever had.

I could not match the numbers from my previous workout....surprise, surprise

I will keep trying the trazadone at 25mg for the next 7 days. I'm sure it will get better !

 

[GroundBison]

I took the 25mg at 10pm. I was tired, but it still took 1.5hrs to fall asleep.

I did not wake up till 5am and fell asleep quickly until the alarm woke me up at 630am.

I felt really sleepy; I should have stayed in bed. I got up did yoga and stretched.

Headed to the gym for 8am. I walked in with my eyes half closed. The worst workout I ever had.

I could not match the numbers from my previous workout....surprise, surprise

I will keep trying the trazadone at 25mg for the next 7 days. I'm sure it will get better !

I hope you get used to the trazodone and it works for you! I take 150 mg every night and usually only deal with dry mouth in the morning as far as side effects. My issue is more with staying asleep than falling asleep, but trazodone is still pretty effective for me. Works much better for me than Ambien or Lunesta.

 

[RubbaDubba1]

I took the 25mg at 10pm. I was tired, but it still took 1.5hrs to fall asleep.

I did not wake up till 5am and fell asleep quickly until the alarm woke me up at 630am.

I felt really sleepy; I should have stayed in bed. I got up did yoga and stretched.

Headed to the gym for 8am. I walked in with my eyes half closed. The worst workout I ever had.

I could not match the numbers from my previous workout....surprise, surprise

I will keep trying the trazadone at 25mg for the next 7 days. I'm sure it will get better !

Got nothing to lose but sleep, haha. I hope it works for you, it always did work fairly quick for me. The Trazadone does a fairly wide dosing range, give it some time too. I used to give my 45lb dog, 50mg of trazadone to take her to the Vet for exams and she was a little spicy as they called it. Even did a 100mg for an ultrasound a couple times, so we wouldn't have to pay to get her knocked out. The Trazadone seems to have K9 applications too.

I got my Belsomra, the packaging looks like it costs more than the drug? See what happens.

 

[RubbaDubba1]

I hope you get used to the trazodone and it works for you! I take 150 mg every night and usually only deal with dry mouth in the morning as far as side effects. My issue is more with staying asleep than falling asleep, but trazodone is still pretty effective for me. Works much better for me than Ambien or Lunesta.

I took Ambien 10mg and would get 4 hours tops and could barely get back to sleep, an hour later with 20mg of Melatonin. I switched to the 12.5mg Ambien extended release and got another 30 minutes, Woopdee Doo! I miss the Trazadone, it was hella consistent for me, glad it works for you.

 

[CharlieBrown]

I hope you get used to the trazodone and it works for you! I take 150 mg every night and usually only deal with dry mouth in the morning as far as side effects. My issue is more with staying asleep than falling asleep, but trazodone is still pretty effective for me. Works much better for me than Ambien or Lunesta.

Got nothing to lose but sleep, haha. I hope it works for you, it always did work fairly quick for me. The Trazadone does a fairly wide dosing range, give it some time too. I used to give my 45lb dog, 50mg of trazadone to take her to the Vet for exams and she was a little spicy as they called it. Even did a 100mg for an ultrasound a couple times, so we wouldn't have to pay to get her knocked out. The Trazadone seems to have K9 applications too.

I got my Belsomra, the packaging looks like it costs more than the drug? See what happens.

Thank you....

i took it again last night, 25mg at 10pm. I woke up at midnight, couldn't fall asleep so I took the other 25mg. I slept until 7am. ( no gym - rest day )

But I'm waking up feeling tired/sleepy. Will this eventually go away ?