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我想问一下，灰色渠道购买的药物效力是否比正规渠道购买的药物低，以及如何调整剂量？我配制好的Tirz需要稍微增加剂量吗？谢谢！
我想问一下，灰色渠道购买的药物效力是否比正规渠道购买的药物低，以及如何调整剂量？我配制好的Tirz需要稍微增加剂量吗？谢谢！
灰色期权与药物期权
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谢谢你提醒我药片过量的事！我服用7.5毫克已经6周了，其中5周是药房开的，1周是自己配制的。体重一直没变化。我刚把剂量增加到8毫克。看来我只能增加剂量了。再次感谢！Int96 said:
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这瓶药片标明是31.39毫克，所以我就按30毫克的剂量服用了。我其他的几瓶分别是33毫克和35毫克左右。我会注意它们的。希望这样没问题，我是新手，哈哈。两周前，也就是我服用7.5毫克药房提供的Tirz的第五周，我注意到我的食欲和对食物的渴望比平时来得更快。这第六周，我用的是自己配制的Tirz，到了第三天就出现了同样的情况。我想是时候增加剂量了。我把剂量增加到了8毫克，过几天如果需要的话，我还会再增加0.5毫克。非常感谢您的帮助，我真的很感激！
At minimum I'd stick to dosage levels in the trials 4wks each (2.5, 5, 7.5 ,10 ,12.5 ,15). The longer you are able to stay at a dose is a win for stretching your supply AND budget! Even if you gain after a week I'd continue that dose another week to be sure before you increase. If you're using gray then increase in smaller increments like .5 instead of Lilly's 2.5.
You might get lucky and eventually (with patience) get to goal without maxing out. I was able to do it at 5mg in less than a year after maintaining my fatness for 59yrs!
Keep in mind nobody on script paying OOP is reaching for a 2nd $250 Zepbound shot from their fridge on day 3 or 4 when they wake up with no "feelz'.
PS - it's the same stuff, Tirz is Tirz.
You might get lucky and eventually (with patience) get to goal without maxing out. I was able to do it at 5mg in less than a year after maintaining my fatness for 59yrs!
Keep in mind nobody on script paying OOP is reaching for a 2nd $250 Zepbound shot from their fridge on day 3 or 4 when they wake up with no "feelz'.
PS - it's the same stuff, Tirz is Tirz.
I just injected 8mg today. Are you suggesting that I stick with 8 for 4 weeks and not go higher, right? I was at 7.5 for 6 weeks before. TIA
I also want to mention that I think it's awesome that you got to your goal on 5mg. Congrats to you!Iamnew2this said:
Thanks and yes, I'd stay at 8 but since you didn't go to 10 there's flexibility there. I think not weighing was the trick for me. I didn't get on the scale at all, not even once! I didn't go to the gym or exercise either. I just let the Tirz enhance my life instead of living my life for a number on the scale. I'm sure I would have dosed higher (and probably maxed out) if I was dosing by scale fluctuations. I basically broke it down to what was sustainable for me which was exactly what I was doing (nothing) with less of an appetite (Tirz) and that equates to achieving goal weight and now trying to eat more or dose less to maintain it. Eventually the great majority who stick with it lose a substantial amount of weight and most of the negative feedback during the effort stems from lack of patience IMO.Iamnew2this said:
11 weeks at 2.5mg followed by 33 weeks at 3.5mg followed by 11 weeks at 4.0mg (current dosage). Down 54 pounds from 218 to 164, at goal weight and maintaining well. Advice - Titrate up to the minimal dose that works well for you. Good luck to all.
That was such great advice! I give you so much credit. You did great and thank you!nonyabizznez said:
You did so good! I'm going to try and take it slow. I've been on tirzepitide since September. I'm trying to stay low. I really hope I don't go up to 15mg. 10mg would be great. I have about 40 more pounds to go, I already lost 58. May I ask you how/ what dose you're maintaining at?gman1 said:
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May I ask are you still on 5mg? How many times per month?
I'm still at 5mg once per week because I'm managing glucose. I also know I'll bounce right back to my old weight without Tirz providing the internal switch I'm lacking.Iamnew2this said:
I paid out of pocket (I think $1050 for 4 doses of 2.5 Mounjaro
) before insurance approval a year ago. Then once I got insurance approval I was stretching doses due to shortages. I never considered bumping up frequency or dose but stick a kit in my freezer and the flexibility is tempting! It's like ice cream you wanna go back for more.I just read someone's post on a Cagri thread in a different forum " Stopped on 12mg reta. Stacking 2mg cag with 2.5mg sema and 15mg tirz presently"
Complaining that Cagri is having no effect.
WHAT?? How did they put their finger on it? I wanna say you screwed the pooch!
It's not hard to get to this person's pin cushion status with all this affordable shizz out there. Every unnecessary increase or 'stack it cuz ya got' it is one step closer... Just my 2¢
Thank you for bringing me back down to earth, btw. Like yeah, I can add tirz..... But I SHOULD just increase my sema dose (and I'm trialling the cagri, but that was more for liver than weight loss.) Weight loss should be my pleasant side effect.... Not my GOAL. IlYnonyabizznez said:I'm still at 5mg once per week because I'm managing glucose. I also know I'll bounce right back to my old weight without Tirz providing the internal switch I'm lacking.
I paid out of pocket (I think $1050 for 4 doses of 2.5 Mounjaro
I just read someone's post on a Cagri thread in a different forum " Stopped on 12mg reta. Stacking 2mg cag with 2.5mg sema and 15mg tirz presently"
Complaining that Cagri is having no effect.
WHAT?? How did they put their finger on it? I wanna say you screwed the pooch!
It's not hard to get to this person's pin cushion status with all this affordable shizz out there. Every unnecessary increase or 'stack it cuz ya got' it is one step closer... Just my 2¢
$1050 is insane, but you ended up doing really great! Thank God your insurance ended up covering the med. My doctor gave me a sample box in September and when October came, of course, I wasn't covered. I ended up using telehealth and compound tirz. I was always bouncing back and forth to this sub tizepitidehelp. I've spent so much money on compounds, thinking that I was wise. The price was much more accommodating, but I wised up even more. I haven't been working for almost 4 years due to medical issues. For now, I buy domestic. I feel most comfortable with that right now. I try and hit the sales whenever I can. The price is sooo much better. I can also understand being tempted to increase or to add to, but for me, I don't think it's necessary. I do get tempted, too! For some, that's their thing. I'm just really happy that I found my way here and am offered such great advice from some really awesome people!
Right? Nonyabizznez put it right into perspective!chmuse said:Thank you for bringing me back down to earth, btw. Like yeah, I can add tirz..... But I SHOULD just increase my sema dose (and I'm trialling the cagri, but that was more for liver than weight loss.) Weight loss should be my pleasant side effect.... Not my GOAL. IlY
Full disclosure I grew impatient with filling Mounjaro scripts so I banked them in my fridge when I could get them. During the shortage I went compound with Lavender Sky and didn't buy gray until last August.chmuse said:Thank you for bringing me back down to earth, btw. Like yeah, I can add tirz..... But I SHOULD just increase my sema dose (and I'm trialling the cagri, but that was more for liver than weight loss.) Weight loss should be my pleasant side effect.... Not my GOAL. IlY
My insurance stresses me out with their pre-authorization process and I don't want to depend on always having a script. Even with script my copay avg is $160/mo (compared to $11/mo gray). So in addition to 50 5mg Mounjaro shots I've got 2500mg Tirz, a couple Sema kits (never tried it but a plan B) and plenty of Cagri. So when the zombies come during the apocalypse I'll be jabbing them with Tirz!
I take 5mg Tirz and 1.25 Cagri. Added Cagri because it's an enhancement and not a overlap or duplication of what Tirz was already doing.
Doing the same as you @nonyabizznez , My husband is the one who qualifies for the brand name drugs and I push him every month to get as much as they will give him to stockpile. I am trying to help 4 people now so the more drugs, the better, Especially if we can get the insurance to pay for it.
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