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As of now my stack is relatively simple. Sema, reta and KLOW. I'm not so sure the KLOW is doing very much currently and I doubt it would make much difference if I stop that one for a while. I have the ipa in my freezer so would only need to buy the CJC but that can wait too.

The mitochondrial protocol (mots-c, NAD+ and ss31) is only 14 weeks and maybe it would be better if I did that before the epitalon. By the time I finish those it will be spring and I could restart the KLOW and try the ipa & cjc.

I'm going to need a bigger peptide box in my freezer ....

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MsGizmo said:
The mitochondrial protocol (mots-c, NAD+ and ss31) is only 14 weeks and maybe it would be better if I did that before the epitalon. By the time I finish those it will be spring and I could restart the KLOW and try the ipa & cjc.
I am REALLY liking the mitochondrial protocol. I feel slightly revved up, I've got enough energy to work out and don't feel like taking a nap all the time, and my rate of loss has sped up a bit.
 
randompersonrandom said:
I am REALLY liking the mitochondrial protocol. I feel slightly revved up, I've got enough energy to work out and don't feel like taking a nap all the time, and my rate of loss has sped up a bit.
OMG - Cuz I'm a sucker and doomed - what is the mitochondria protocol exactly? LOL...aaaagggghhhhhhh
 
Zydeceltico said:
OMG - Cuz I'm a sucker and doomed - what is the mitochondria protocol exactly? LOL...aaaagggghhhhhhh
Don't do it. It's NAD+ 2x a week for fourteen weeks. (25 mg each day for the first two weeks, then 50mg for weeks 3 and 4, then 100mg for the rest). On the third week, add SS-31, 4mg per day, every day, for six weeks. Then for the last six weeks, switch to MOTS-C 2x per week. (I don't remember the dosage cause I'm not there yet).

Supposedly the SS-31 gets your mitochondria ready to be heeeeeeealed by JEE-zus. Then the MOTS-C HEEEEEEEEEALS your mitochondria, by JEE-zus. And the NAD+ provides something or other that the mitochondria needs to do something, f if I remember what. I'm firmly unconvinced my mitochondria are even broken, but I'm doing it anyway.

If you search "mitochondria," a bunch of people keep posting a pdf with the protocol and a hundred scholarly articles that supposedly prove while it works. I don't know if they do or not, cause I didn't read them. What am I even doing here, man, I need to do other hobbies.
 
randompersonrandom said:
Don't do it. ............ articles that supposedly prove while it works. I don't know if they do or not, cause I didn't read them. What am I even doing here, man, I need to do other hobbies.
ayyyeeeeeeeeeee!!!!! LOL!!!

Crazy Train!! lol

.........LOL.....mas needlones en mi futuro!!!! LOL..............
 
randompersonrandom said:
Don't do it. It's NAD+ 2x a week for fourteen weeks. (25 mg each day for the first two weeks, then 50mg for weeks 3 and 4, then 100mg for the rest). On the third week, add SS-31, 4mg per day, every day, for six weeks. Then for the last six weeks, switch to MOTS-C 2x per week. (I don't remember the dosage cause I'm not there yet).

Supposedly the SS-31 gets your mitochondria ready to be heeeeeeealed by JEE-zus. Then the MOTS-C HEEEEEEEEEALS your mitochondria, by JEE-zus. And the NAD+ provides something or other that the mitochondria needs to do something, f if I remember what. I'm firmly unconvinced my mitochondria are even broken, but I'm doing it anyway.

If you search "mitochondria," a bunch of people keep posting a pdf with the protocol and a hundred scholarly articles that supposedly prove while it works. I don't know if they do or not, cause I didn't read them. What am I even doing here, man, I need to do other hobbies.
There was a recent study that finally showed. NAD+ might actually make it into your cells instead of a breakdown-transport-reassemble theory. It’s only one study but hey, progress.

I feel like my mitochondria are happier. I haven’t asked though.

I think there’s some indirect support for my droopy dopamine. Haven’t rubbed enough brain cells together to try to connect them.

I have neither SS-31 nor Mots-c in the house.
 
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Did I NEED seven different pens so that I could shoot up seven different kinds of chinese mystery powder in a week? No,

I’m to this point … I’m on HRT so had a 2 year head jump on poking myself regularly, twice per week.

The novelty is gone, I’m ready to point, click, be done. Seems like it would be easier to rotate sites (takes me two hands for a regular syringe).
 
randompersonrandom said:
Peptide creep, and accessory creep. Though there IS a point where this all starts to be more realistically taken from the "hobby budget" than the "medical budget." Did I NEED to get a big, shiny surgical steel tray to do my recons and filtering on? No, but it looks so cool and makes me happy. Did I NEED to buy my wonderful little thermos pods in different colors for my freezer? No, but I love them and they delight me. Did I NEED seven different pens so that I could shoot up seven different kinds of chinese mystery powder in a week? No, but apparently that's what I want to be doing now. Do I NEED a niimbot so I can put delightful labels on each of my hundreds of stockpiled vials of tirzepatide? No, but I'm probably gonna buy it. Do I NEED beautiful labels for the niimbot I'm probably going to buy? Sigh. No. And yet...
Yes to all.
 
Hopefully the mitochondria repair and the epitalon cycles will extend my life long enough to use up the 40 years worth of glp1s (and others) I have collected!
 
IshimaruKenta said:
Yes to all.
The niimbot really is the dumbest one. Why tf do I need to more or less bedazle vials I'll see for ten minutes? I filter into carts, ffs. And I live alone. Somebody stop me.
 
Foggy-Hollow said:
I’m to this point … I’m on HRT so had a 2 year head jump on poking myself regularly, twice per week.

The novelty is gone, I’m ready to point, click, be done. Seems like it would be easier to rotate sites (takes me two hands for a regular syringe).
Do it! Pens are fun. 👏 I still use two hands and support the pen while its in there.

The colors make it easy to know what you have. so get all different colors.

unless you are going to go $$ then no fun colors, but instant push button delivery.

I like to contol that so I havent gone there.
 
randompersonrandom said:
The niimbot really is the dumbest one. Why tf do I need to more or less bedazle vials I'll see for ten minutes? I filter into carts, ffs. And I live alone. Somebody stop me.

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I want to try epitalon so bad and am white-knuckling my way through "No. Stop it. You don't need to be shooting up this much shit, give it a rest." I'm already doing a klow cycle and that mitochondrial thing on top of stacking tirz and Survo, it's time to start spacing stuff out!
Epithalon makes 1 hour of sleep feels like 3. Ever since I startedd, i've been waking up refreshed and fully rested. Sometimes one night of sleep feels like multiple.
 
MsGizmo said:
Danger, Will Robinson. Danger!
attachments-1763850409193-webp.10360.webpForget Dr. Smith!

I was only 7 or 8 but she mesmerized ME! 🤣
 

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randompersonrandom said:
Peptide creep, and accessory creep. Though there IS a point where this all starts to be more realistically taken from the "hobby budget" than the "medical budget." Did I NEED to get a big, shiny surgical steel tray to do my recons and filtering on? No, but it looks so cool and makes me happy. Did I NEED to buy my wonderful little thermos pods in different colors for my freezer? No, but I love them and they delight me. Did I NEED seven different pens so that I could shoot up seven different kinds of chinese mystery powder in a week? No, but apparently that's what I want to be doing now. Do I NEED a niimbot so I can put delightful labels on each of my hundreds of stockpiled vials of tirzepatide? No, but I'm probably gonna buy it. Do I NEED beautiful labels for the niimbot I'm probably going to buy? Sigh. No. And yet...
Haha get the nimbot!
 
Uh...it only came on ONCE during it's run? 😱 🤣

Like Rudolph and the Wizard of Oz.

On once a year and that was it. 👍
 
JoonyO said:
Uh...it only came on ONCE during it's run? 😱 🤣

Like Rudolph and the Wizard of Oz.

On once a year and that was it. 👍
what was it called?
 
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