Has anybody gotten a free test from Finnrisk?

[LabRatBarbie]

So I wanted to send a vial into the scammers manipulating test results for profit at Finnrisk back in March, and my request still shows it’s waiting for their approval. Just want to see if anybody has had this issue??

 

[oldrunnerguy]

I sent a request for a couple of vials back in February and they replied back within a day with instructions on how to proceed. Perhaps they needed more info?

 

[wildweasel]

I have been wondering how in the world they operate, they do not have a sustainable business model whatsoever.

i have trouble believing their vendor sponsors are enough funding to pay for this sort of "free peptide testing for all" service

GCMS/LCMS/HPLC are not cheap machines, they collectively cost hundreds of thousands. Im really extremely suspicious that their business model is some sort of scam or dishonest.

or maybe im just paranoid.

 

[thebonus]

I have been wondering how in the world they operate, they do not have a sustainable business model whatsoever.

i have trouble believing their vendor sponsors are enough funding to pay for this sort of "free peptide testing for all" service

GCMS/LCMS/HPLC are not cheap machines, they collectively cost hundreds of thousands. Im really extremely suspicious that their business model is some sort of scam or dishonest.

or maybe im just paranoid.

They do have a lot of vendors and a preferred program where I'm sure they direct some business towards. Who knows what they charge.

Also, I've read that Krause is local to them, so I'm sure they have some bulk testing pricing. Lots of folks have had issues with Krause in terms of false or grossly wrong test data.

You can "expedite" to BTLabs for $90, which I think is somewhat reputable facility, so I'm sure they have some kind of deal with them as well.

Their "free" tier is pretty basic, perhaps they're also banking on you paying for tests that aren't free if you go for more specialized items?

 

[indolent]

they do not have a sustainable business model whatsoever

If you search these forums, you'll find all sorts of speculation about their business model, whether they're FDA or CIA or DOJ or KGB or DOA or SOL.

My more business-minded friend has a hunch that they're doing due-diligence [very cheaply, in fact] to buy out one or more of the single-vial domestic vendors when (with some lobbying by them, also cheap for VC-backed startup ventures; your legislators are back-alley whores, no politico) peptide sales turn a much lighter shade of grey, like the shady but well-shaded supplements industry. I'm too simple-minded to possibly process that possibility.

 

[Grogu]

So I wanted to send a vial into the scammers manipulating test results for profit at Finnrisk back in March, and my request still shows it’s waiting for their approval. Just want to see if anybody has had this issue??

I sent a vial to them and they were delayed, but only a few days. I submitted a request on 2/26. Hadn't heard anything and emailed them on 3/5. Received information about shipping the next day.

But the lesson I learned from the entire process is that they suck. I sent a 10 mg vial of cagrilintide to them and the results came back with mass of about 3mg of cagri. I pinned .5mg from another vial and felt it.

Did you see the recent thread about the T60 that came back with 0 mass from Krause? The OP of that thread sent another vial from the same kit to Freedom (IIRC) and it came back with overfilled tirzepatide.

They truly suck. The only saving grace was the my C10 vial was cheap. If I had sent something expensive I would have been upset.

I now know why they are "scammers manipulating test results". A $30 (w/shipping) lesson to learn.

 

[thebonus]

If you search these forums, you'll find all sorts of speculation about their business model, whether they're FDA or CIA or DOJ or KGB or DOA or SOL.

My more business-minded friend has a hunch that they're doing due-diligence [very cheaply, in fact] to buy out one or more of the single-vial domestic vendors when (with some lobbying by them, also cheap for VC-backed startup ventures; your legislators are back-alley whores, no politico) peptide sales turn a much lighter shade of grey, like the shady but well-shaded supplements industry. I'm too simple-minded to possibly process that possibility.

That is plausible. They are collecting a LOT of data about peptides, vendors, etc.. thing is, if their in-house lab sucks so much ass, that will be dirty data (at least on the peptide front) that could make decision making difficult.

 

[LabRatBarbie]

I wonder how many of these test are actually accurate. All of these vendors advertise on here.

 

[HappyLoser]

I was planning to place an order with a vendor that's grown quite the following on here and is kiling it. When I asked for a COA they sent me a FIN COA. That was a deal breaker for me. FIN is misleading people. They're providing data that supports their paying supporters, they are not an unbiased lab and their results have been proven time and time again to be worthless.

 

[Elgordoboy]

I sent in for a free one. Process worked and things seemed fine. The product got dinged a couple of points for no batch number/label issues like but otherwise wouldve been a near 10 rating. Whatever that’s worth to you.

 

[CJsMom]

I have no clue what their business model is either, but it could be you sent a sample that they are overloaded on due to it, and/or it’s vendor’s popularity.

 

[Grogu]

I have no clue what their business model is either, but it could be you sent a sample that they are overloaded on due to it, and/or it’s vendor’s popularity.

Doesn’t make much sense to me either, but I asked AI to look at the website and determine the business model:

The strategic logic: Free consumer testing for the high-volume, high-interest peptides (tirzepatide, semaglutide, retatrutide) drives a massive, credible database. That database gives the scammers manipulating test results for profit at Finnrisk's ratings authority. That authority is what vendors are paying for access to — either to get listed, to use the scammers manipulating test results for profit at Finnrisk's lab infrastructure privately, or to have verifiable COAs that they can use in their own marketing. It's essentially the Yelp or Consumer Reports model applied to the research peptide gray market — the ratings are the product, and the vendors pay to participate in the credentialing ecosystem.

AI has its issue. Clearly the database isn’t “credible” and Finnrisk doesn’t have any authority, but the Yelp part I liked…

 

[CharmanderInDisguise]

I got my first order of China Reta tested by them. It took over a month to get the results. It did show that the vials I got were way underdosed and after showing that to my vendor, the vendor confirmed an error on their part and made it right.

That being said, the same vendor has been consistent with other tests (group and individual). As well as the folks in their Discord are sharing if certain things are a no-go if they test bad.

As such, I'm good with filtering and pinning from this vendor.