Gray RETA 和您的医生/PCP

[gimmeshelter]

早上好。我很好奇其他人在服用 RETA 以及他们的私人医疗保健提供者（也就是你们的医生）方面的情况。我目前还在寻找合适的产品，收藏了很多资料等等，正在慢慢缩小范围（这真是一段漫长的旅程……）。下一步我打算去做个血液检查，看看身体状况如何，然后在接下来的 4-6 周内开始服用 RETA。

我很好奇……大家会告诉医生自己正在服用非官方渠道的产品吗？大多数人是先做血液检查再开始服用 RETA 吗？

如果你们告诉了医生，医生的反应是什么？谢谢！

 

[Lovedog100]

你问这个问题真有意思。就在一周前，我告诉医生我停用了Ozempic，改用Reta。他完全不知道Reta是什么，当场就上网查了一下。他把查到的结果读给我听，我们讨论了一会儿。当他意识到我不会停药时，他开始慌了。他跟我说Reta还没完成三期临床试验，也没获得FDA批准，好像这样就能改变我的想法似的。我告诉他我已经做过充分的研究，我觉得值得冒险。然后他又说“他不能为Reta的副作用负责”。我告诉他我会为自己的行为负责，我只是想对医生坦诚相待。然后他问：“你从哪儿弄来的？”一开始我是从本地供应商那里买的，后来发现是中国产的，所以我回答“中国”。我的天，这下可糟了……

 

[Estarossa19]

我猜你服用的是复方替拉肽，或者类似的药物，是由医生通过远程医疗公司开的处方。由于你身在美国，请注意，如果你的医疗记录中记录了因服用“灰色市场”肽类药物而引起的任何健康并发症，保险公司就会以此为借口，在日后出现问题时拒绝赔付。

 

[AcadiaPeptides]

几周后我要去看我的家庭医生。就是这位医生之前给我开了Zepbound，后来我们都明白因为价格太贵我不会服用。

之后这位医生（在不了解我们情况的情况下）建议我考虑Hims之类的替代方案。（大家都知道Hims的运作方式。）

所以我打算跟他分享我今年的远程医疗经历，分享我做的远程医疗研究，提醒他不要推荐Hims，然后就到此为止。

至于那些灰色地带的研究，我不会再提了，原因我已经在这个帖子里说过了。

 

[ambot88]

I never got any blood work and didn't tell my doctor - I sort of wish I'd gotten initial bloodwork though just to see the difference.

 

[CNCCurrency]

Morning. I am curious what others are doing in terms of going on Reta and their private healthcare provider - meaning your doctor. I am in the sourcing phase have tons of bookmarks etc and am slowly narrowing it down (it's been a journey........). My next step is to get a blood panel to see what's up then start RETA next 4-6 weeks.

I am curious......are folks telling their doc they are taking a gray market product? Are most getting bloodwork first then starting a protocol?

If you did tell your doc, what was the response? Thanks !

I just tell them I'm taking tirzepatide thru a telehealth. He didn't even blink over it. I imagine it is very common nowadays.

 

[gimmeshelter]

I am seeing my local PCP in a few weeks. This is the same PCP that prescribed me Zepbound and then we both understood I would not be taking that due to the price.

Same PCP then suggested (without knowing what we know) that I should explore options like Hims. (and we all know how THAT works)

So I am planning on sharing with them my telehealth journey I have been on this year, Share with them my telehealth research, CAUTION them about recommending Hims, and leave it at that.

I will not share about the grey research for reasons mentioned already in this thread.

I have heard of HIMS , so it is a total scam? Inform me, I'm an idiot !

 

[CNCCurrency]

I have heard of HIMS , so it is a total scam? Inform me, I'm an idiot !

Hims and Hers are the same company and are one of the biggest telehealth companies for glp 1 sales. They sell prescriptions basically so you can get compounded glp 1

 

[BNLFL]

I didn't tell mine when I went 3 weeks ago for the yearly deal. Had blood work and went in for a follow up to that. Everything was spot on normal including BP and HR. My weight was down 3lbs, but he knew I cut back on beer, carbs and was eating less and better.

 

[janedoe]

When I transitioned from namebrand to compound, I told my doc I purchased enough compound to last the apocalypse. He attempted to tell me about expiration, etc. I said, I know, thanks. My next visit will be the same story.

 

[Birdie]

I did not and I will not. I wasted a lot of time trying it his way--now we are doing it mine. The two liver enzymes that started the conversation ("I know you seem healthy now, but this is going to catch up with you eventually") are no longer an issue.

Maybe one day, I will tell him. More likely though, I will tell just how unhelpful and exhausting some of the hoops he had me jump through were. Nothing like being told to gain weight to qualify for a surgery or sitting in a room full of people being weighed like cattle before they all watch the same video or reducing your consumption to an ever-changing allotment of "points" in a process that becomes nearly algebraic for a home cook like me.

For the first time, since I was 8 years old, I am not on a diet. I eat real food, in appropriate amounts without obsession. IMO this medication has done as much for my mental health as it has my waistline, and I am not debating it with anyone who has not physically experienced obesity or deeply loved and respected someone who has.

Sorry if that was a downer. I guess the idea hit a nerve.

 

[ghreid]

Told both my PCP and cardiologist that I was on Reta during my visits. I printed out medical articles about reta for my PCP and he told me that it had already been talked about at the Internal Medicine convention he attended. He was very pleased as all my metabolic values had normalized and A1C had come down to normal range. When I went to my yearly visit for the cardiologist,the first thing he said when he walked into the room was "what the hell happened to you". He couldn't believe that I was down 100lbs since my last visit. Told him about the reta and exercise and he told me to keep up the great work and took me off my blood pressure pills. Just went for a repeat sleep study and was told I no longer needed to use the CPAP. Both asked me about where I got the reta and told them a chinese manufacturer produces it. They were not surprised as many of the generic drugs we have in the US come from chinese factories.

 

[SolidChick]

I told my provider I was interested in Zepbound. She ordered me labs at my last physical and told me that I should try the pill form since it is cheaper. The funny thing is that my primary provider is now running a "Weight Loss Clinic" that she suggests I try.

I thanked them for the brochure and went on my merry way.

 

[indolent]

What do you tell your Doctor

Assuming you go in for regular check ups and get blood work done. Do you tell him what you're taking? Do you keep it a secret? I've also read you shouldn't hid anything from your doctor but when I told him I like to have a smoke every once in a while I got charged a smoking cessation...

glp1forum.com

 

[Pinngo]

I haven't bothered to tell mine. My yearly visit for the last decade has essentially been "your bloodwork is fine, you seem healthy as a horse, but you're over weight. Work on that. Have a nice day, thanks for the $$$."

I'm doing quarterly blood work that is more comprehensive than they order for 1/4 the price, I monitor heart rate, sleep, etc through my watch and check blood pressure regularly. I'm not too fussed with them not knowing and don't really think it would make a difference for my specific situation.

 

[AcadiaPeptides]

I did not and I will not. I wasted a lot of time trying it his way--now we are doing it mine. The two liver enzymes that started the conversation ("I know you seem healthy now, but this is going to catch up with you eventually") are no longer an issue.

Maybe one day, I will tell him. More likely though, I will tell just how unhelpful and exhausting some of the hoops he had me jump through were. Nothing like being told to gain weight to qualify for a surgery or sitting in a room full of people being weighed like cattle before they all watch the same video or reducing your consumption to an ever-changing allotment of "points" in a process that becomes nearly algebraic for a home cook like me.

For the first time, since I was 8 years old, I am not on a diet. I eat real food, in appropriate amounts without obsession. IMO this medication has done as much for my mental health as it has my waistline, and I am not debating it with anyone who has not physically experienced obesity or deeply loved and respected someone who has.

Sorry if that was a downer. I guess the idea hit a nerve.

"Maybe one day, I will tell him. More likely though, I will tell just how unhelpful and exhausting some of the hoops he had me jump through were." THIS!

AND THIS

"For the first time, since I was 8 years old, I am not on a diet. I eat real food, in appropriate amounts without obsession. IMO this medication has done as much for my mental health as it has my waistline, and I am not debating it with anyone who has not physically experienced obesity or deeply loved and respected someone who has."

MENTAL HEALTH YES!!!!

 

[gimmeshelter]

I did not and I will not. I wasted a lot of time trying it his way--now we are doing it mine. The two liver enzymes that started the conversation ("I know you seem healthy now, but this is going to catch up with you eventually") are no longer an issue.

Maybe one day, I will tell him. More likely though, I will tell just how unhelpful and exhausting some of the hoops he had me jump through were. Nothing like being told to gain weight to qualify for a surgery or sitting in a room full of people being weighed like cattle before they all watch the same video or reducing your consumption to an ever-changing allotment of "points" in a process that becomes nearly algebraic for a home cook like me.

For the first time, since I was 8 years old, I am not on a diet. I eat real food, in appropriate amounts without obsession. IMO this medication has done as much for my mental health as it has my waistline, and I am not debating it with anyone who has not physically experienced obesity or deeply loved and respected someone who has.

Sorry if that was a downer. I guess the idea hit a nerve.

Ohh no, great response. I'm so happy for you !!!

 

[RoadRash]

Morning. I am curious what others are doing in terms of going on Reta and their private healthcare provider - meaning your doctor. I am in the sourcing phase have tons of bookmarks etc and am slowly narrowing it down (it's been a journey........). My next step is to get a blood panel to see what's up then start RETA next 4-6 weeks.

I am curious......are folks telling their doc they are taking a gray market product? Are most getting bloodwork first then starting a protocol?

If you did tell your doc, what was the response? Thanks !

I just had a physical last week and told my doctor I was on reta. He just looked at me and said, "I hope you've got a good source."

I assured him I did and he went on to say the data is extremely promising and to be careful with BP meds because as I lose weight, those need to be adjusted. Been my primary for 25 years. That's why.

 

[Mc_ppka_tp]

I have an appointment this Friday with my PA. I was going in to request and extensive set of blood tests and an ecg as I am on TRT and I plan on trying a TRT+ sometime in future and I want to see where I'm currently at. I hadn't thought of how to answer her questions about my weight loss and I do not want my Chinese Reta usage documented. I think I'll borrow the zepbound telehealth "white lie".

 

[rustle]

Funny that you should ask that. Just a week ago I informed my doctor that I had stopped Ozempic, and had been taking Reta. He had no idea what it was, and Googled it on the spot. He read me his findings, and we discussed it a bit. Ge started to freak out when he realized that I wasn't going to stop taking it. He told me about not finishing phase three testing and not being FDA approved like it would change my mind. I let him know that I had thoroughly researched it, that I felt it was worth the risk. Then he pulled the "he can't take responsibility for what it might do" I let him know that I take responsibility for my actions, that I just wanted to be honest with my doctor. Then he asked, "where do you get it" I had started with a local supplier until I discovered China, so I answered "China". OMG, the sh*t hit the fan then....

Same with my dr; she couldn't even look at me she was so mad. This was last year.