GLP1 大巡演:当前 RETA 体验

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我似乎正在进行GLP-1肽家族的全面探索。

最初我成功使用了医保覆盖的Wegovy(11个月),之后继续使用研究用Semaglutide,然后过渡到Tirzepatide,接着是Tirzepatide/Retatrutide联合治疗,现在正在尝试在Retatrutide基础上叠加小剂量Cagrilintide。

😳

坦白说,我不喜欢我个人的肽类药物使用史。

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我的环游世界之旅(Grand Tour)经历太过复杂,无法在此一一赘述。

我认为我的方法自有其道理,因此我乐于解答您可能提出的任何问题。

我在环游世界之旅中使用过两家瑞他曲肽(Retatrutide)供应商:(AmoPeptide) AmoPure.net 和青岛西格玛化学。

即使是来自中国供应商,价格对于我高剂量的药物来说也是一个重要的考量因素。

令人欣慰的是,瑞他曲肽试剂盒的价格似乎略有下降的趋势。

目前 AmoPure.net 出售的试剂盒:

R10 = 244 美元;

R15 = 367 美元

;Cagri 5mg = 已售罄;

Cagri 10mg = 已售罄。

近期青岛西格玛化学 (QSC) 的试剂盒:

Reta 10mg:180 美元/套;

Reta 15mg:260 美元/套;

Reta 20mg:360 美元/套;

Cagri 10mg:200 美元/套。

注意:这些是 QSC 的促销价格,因此很可能是非最佳批次的清仓货。

如有任何疑问,请随时联系我,或

分享您使用 Retatrutide 的研究经验。 🙂
 

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您可能之前发过类似的帖子,所以很抱歉。请问您有心跳加速的症状吗?我服用芬特明时也出现过这种情况,但我知道那和您现在用的药完全不同。我的父母都在五十多岁时因心脏病去世。我今年43岁。
 
你有没有特别偏爱或者觉得效果最好的肽类药物?我知道如果是多种肽类药物叠加使用,可能很难分辨每种肽的副作用和益处。我的RS(可能是指某种药物或补充剂)目前只服用7.5毫克的Tirz,副作用很小,除了偶尔的恶心和腹痛。但他一直对添加Reta(可能是指某种肽或补充剂)很感兴趣,所以我很想听听大家的使用体验!我还没研究过Cagri(可能是指某种肽或补充剂)。
 
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Sema、Tirz、Reta、Cagri……

你们齐心协力,我 注定 不会是个胖子。
 

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clevesand said:
You may have posted this before so I apologize. But any symptoms of heart racing? I had that issue with Phentermine but I know that's a totally different kind of drug. I lost both my parents in their 50s with heart issues. I am 43.
my resting heart rate is 130 this morning after 2.5mg reta over the last 3 days 0.5,1.0,1.0. If you're going to do reta start really low. You can always add more the next day if it does nothing.
 
clevesand said:
You may have posted this before so I apologize. But any symptoms of heart racing? I had that issue with Phentermine but I know that's a totally different kind of drug. I lost both my parents in their 50s with heart issues. I am 43.
My condolences @clevesand.

As a 72yo Atrial Fibrillation patient with a pacemaker I am very interested in this side effect and monitor it closely ie Apple Watch and Medtronics 24/7 cellphone link.

In the sixteen months I’ve taken GLP1s I’ve experienced Tachycardia/palpitations on 6 (six) occasions: 3 notable events while on Semaglutide, 2 notable events while on Tirzepatide, and, 1 less significant event while on Retatrutide+Cagrilintide stack.

The Sema/Tirz events (128bpm) were associated with times of significant emotional stress. The more recent and less signigficant event (120bpm) was not stress/related and did not seem to have a likely cause.

My cardiac care team after analyzing my Apple ECG and Medtronix Pacemaker report said these events, while disconcerting and reportable, were not serious or lengthy; that Afib patients experience these occasionally without apparent cause, that they were ‘expected and not concerning’.

My take on this is that in my case the GLP1s are not causing any unusual cardiac activity. Your own mileage may vary @clevesand

WITHOUT DOUBT YOU SHOULD CONSULT YOUR MD FOR ADVICE.
 
tex182 said:
Do you have one that you prefer or that you think is helping the most? I know if you're stacking it's probably difficult to discern side effects and benefits of each individual peptide. My RS is using only Tirz at 7.5mg with minimal side effects save for occasional nausea and abdominal pain but has been curious about adding reta so I'm very interested to hear people's personal experiences with it! I have not looked into cagri though.
The story arc in my Grand Tour has been from “easy, long-term weight-loss with full appetite supression and no calorie-counting on Sema TO a stalling-out fall-from-bliss TO six months of effortful-three-different-peptides-uphill-both directions struggle to regain weight-loss Heaven”.

Soon to be made into a major motion picture!

I have pretty well kept the peptide transitions distinct and can accurately distinguish their contributions.

I was hoping to delay publishing about this until I had more experience to report on.

BRIEFLY stated with the minimum of detail :

After 10-11 months successful Semaglutide weight loss I stalled out.

How can you keep on movin' unless you migrate too.

For me the difference in appetite suppression between Semaglutide and Tirzepatide was considerable and stimulated me to titrate rapidly to 7.5mg weekly. It wasn’t enough. Migrating to Tirzepatide reduced side effects but 10mg weekly dosage was required to approach the appetite suppression of Sema. More than 10mg weekly would have been needed to actually equal 2.5mg of Sema weekly.

Stack, stack, stack... they call him The Stacker.

Began stacking 2.5mg of Reta mid-week atop 10mg of TIrzepatide to assist with suppression.

It assisted well! Reta does have somewhat better appetite suppression than Tirzepatide. It soon became clear that the mid-week Reta was doing the heavy lifting and I quick-migrated to 7.5mg of Retatrutide dosage in about three weeks

Rinse and repeat.

Retatrutide is better in every way than Tirzepatide is - for me . Explaining the subtle whys becomes difficult. Certainly there are fewer side effects with Retatrutide than with Tirzepatide; my persistent side is constipation which I treat with Magnesium Citrate gelcaps. Fairly soon the 7.5mg dosage was not sufficient to quell my appetite and I needed to upgrade the dose. Reta unfortunately has the same difficulty for me that Tirzepatide does but not to the same degree - not quite adequate appetite suppression at 10mg weekly.

Enter the Dragon.

At risk of appearing a weak and needy addict, I admit to now stacking Cagrilintide mid-week atop 10mg of Retatrutide. This is strictly to stop the onset of significant hunger which was stalling me out AGAIN.

I decided on the addition of Cagrilintide mid-week

My intention was to start with 0.300mg but I fumbled the dose calculation or draw. Thankfully I experienced no strong side effects.

The main effect however was substantial - Appetite Suppression At Last!

Cagrilintide ELIMINATED my hunger for 7 days :

I lost 5lbs from Wednesday through end-of-day Sunday!

Based on my recent experience some things seem to be true:

a) Stacking Reta atop Tirz is not efficient or particularly effective.

This seems evident in hindsight as 2/3 of Retatrutide's agonists

duplicate Tirzepatid's agonists;

b) Both peptides have the same "weakness" - they don't suppress appetite nearly so well as Semaglutide.

c) Initial response to Cagrilintide is that its appetite suppression is equal to that of Semaglutide if not greater.

d) If your appetite breaks through while taking high dosages of Tirzepatide adding Cagrilintide is a far better solution than adding Retatrutide.

This data is of course only true for me. Your Mileage May WILL Vary!
 
dionysos said:
Stack, stack, stack... they call him The Stacker.

Began stacking 2.5mg of Reta mid-week atop 10mg of TIrzepatide to assist with suppression.

It assisted well! Reta does have somewhat better appetite suppression than Tirzepatide. It soon became clear that the mid-week Reta was doing the heavy lifting and I quick-migrated to 7.5mg of Retatrutide dosage in about three weeks
Did you ever get up to the full tirz dosage or did you stop at 10? I've seen a few reports of people switching to tirzepatide after loosing alot on semaglutide with minimal progress after the switch. I plan to switch in a couple months (already bought from QSC in the 50mg gb) and want to avoid this.
 
Thanks for all of your advice, 🐊🎩

RS currently takes 10mg name brand tirz then a mid week 1mg dosage of Reta. Suppression thus far has been good.
 
dionysos said:
The story arc in my Grand Tour has been from “easy, long-term weight-loss with full appetite supression and no calorie-counting on Sema TO a stalling-out fall-from-bliss TO six months of effortful-three-different-peptides-uphill-both directions struggle to regain weight-loss Heaven”.

Soon to be made into a major motion picture!

I have pretty well kept the peptide transitions distinct and can accurately distinguish their contributions.

I was hoping to delay publishing about this until I had more experience to report on.

BRIEFLY stated with the minimum of detail :

After 10-11 months successful Semaglutide weight loss I stalled out.

How can you keep on movin' unless you migrate too.

For me the difference in appetite suppression between Semaglutide and Tirzepatide was considerable and stimulated me to titrate rapidly to 7.5mg weekly. It wasn’t enough. Migrating to Tirzepatide reduced side effects but 10mg weekly dosage was required to approach the appetite suppression of Sema. More than 10mg weekly would have been needed to actually equal 2.5mg of Sema weekly.

Stack, stack, stack... they call him The Stacker.

Began stacking 2.5mg of Reta mid-week atop 10mg of TIrzepatide to assist with suppression.

It assisted well! Reta does have somewhat better appetite suppression than Tirzepatide. It soon became clear that the mid-week Reta was doing the heavy lifting and I quick-migrated to 7.5mg of Retatrutide dosage in about three weeks

Rinse and repeat.

Retatrutide is better in every way than Tirzepatide is - for me . Explaining the subtle whys becomes difficult. Certainly there are fewer side effects with Retatrutide than with Tirzepatide; my persistent side is constipation which I treat with Magnesium Citrate gelcaps. Fairly soon the 7.5mg dosage was not sufficient to quell my appetite and I needed to upgrade the dose. Reta unfortunately has the same difficulty for me that Tirzepatide does but not to the same degree - not quite adequate appetite suppression at 10mg weekly.

Enter the Dragon.

At risk of appearing a weak and needy addict, I admit to now stacking Cagrilintide mid-week atop 10mg of Retatrutide. This is strictly to stop the onset of significant hunger which was stalling me out AGAIN.

I decided on the addition of Cagrilintide mid-week

My intention was to start with 0.300mg but I fumbled the dose calculation or draw. Thankfully I experienced no strong side effects.

The main effect however was substantial - Appetite Suppression At Last!

Cagrilintide ELIMINATED my hunger for 7 days :

I lost 5lbs from Wednesday through end-of-day Sunday!

Based on my recent experience some things seem to be true:

a) Stacking Reta atop Tirz is not efficient or particularly effective.

This seems evident in hindsight as 2/3 of Retatrutide's agonists

duplicate Tirzepatid's agonists;

b) Both peptides have the same "weakness" - they don't suppress appetite nearly so well as Semaglutide.

c) Initial response to Cagrilintide is that its appetite suppression is equal to that of Semaglutide if not greater.

d) If your appetite breaks through while taking high dosages of Tirzepatide a dding Cagrilintide is a far better solution than adding Retatrutide.

This data is of course only true for me. Your Mileage May WILL Vary!
It's funny, we've been on the same Grand Tour in seems. I'm a few weeks behind your Retatrutide dosage (at 4 mg) on the Reta Cagri stack now.
 
Currently on 8mg Reta but gaining weight for last 3 weeks. I don’t feel the Reta anymore. Today is 10mg injection time

Thinking about to stack agian with Sema if it doesn’t help
 
tex182 said:
Do you have one that you prefer or that you think is helping the most? I know if you're stacking it's probably difficult to discern side effects and benefits of each individual peptide. My RS is using only Tirz at 7.5mg with minimal side effects save for occasional nausea and abdominal pain but has been curious about adding reta so I'm very interested to hear people's personal experiences with it! I have not looked into cagri though.
For me the difference in appetite suppression between Semaglutide and Tirzepatide was considerable and stimulated me to titrate rapidly to 7.5mg weekly. It wasn’t enough.

Chizikitide-1977 said:
Did you ever get up to the full tirz dosage or did you stop at 10? I've seen a few reports of people switching to tirzepatide after loosing alot on semaglutide with minimal progress after the switch. I plan to switch in a couple months (already bought from QSC in the 50mg gb) and want to avoid this.
i did not go past 10mg of Tirzepatide per week. In part that was because of the increase in side effects. Reta provided increased appetite suppression with fewer sides. Interesting to note that Reta + Cagri has so far produced a high level of appetite suppression with no side effects whatever.
 
Started Reta on 07/01/24 ID:4mg, titrated to 10mg.

Almost no side effects except for Cold/hot shifting in the day (Cold in first half of day, hot other half)

HR rose slowly from 50 to 60.

Losing about 4-5 lbs/wk. No food noise, hunger mostly wiped out around 6+ mg

Will hold on 10 as the Phase 2 clinical showed 8-10 was the best compromise.

I don't think I could ask for anything better.
 
Sheldor said:
Currently on 8mg Reta but gaining weight for last 3 weeks. I don’t feel the Reta anymore. Today is 10mg injection time

Thinking about to stack agian with Sema if it doesn’t help
@Sheldor

I would be very interested to hear your response to stacking Semaglutide with Retatrutide.

At the moment the Reta-Cagri stack has potential to be a successful solution - appetite suppression without side effects. That's something even Semaglutide at its best did not provide me.
 
dionysos said:
@Sheldor

I would be very interested to hear your response to stacking Semaglutide with Retatrutide.

At the moment the Reta-Cagri stack has potential to be a successful solution - appetite suppression without side effects. That's something even Semaglutide at its best did not provide me.
I did it before already. I had a open ozempic pen left because side effects over 0.5mg were too heavy. So I before giving it to trash, I stacked it.

I must say I never lost so much weight before. Around 1-2KG per week.
 
Mounjamen said:
With which stacking dosing did you have the best experience with Reta and Cagri?
Hi Mounjamen!

I have used 0.6mg and 0.3mg and am attempting to clarify if 0.3 will be adequate. I am just entering week 4 so you understand that these comments are preliminary.

CERTAINLY 0.6mg gives considerable appetite suppression! Surprisingly its effects last longer than 7 days - seemingly 10 days at least!

LATE EDIT: To clarify - I stacked 0.6mg Cagrilintide mid-week atop 10mg of Retatrutide>
 
touringsedan said:
Started Reta on 07/01/24 ID:4mg, titrated to 10mg.

Almost no side effects except for Cold/hot shifting in the day (Cold in first half of day, hot other half)

HR rose slowly from 50 to 60.

Losing about 4-5 lbs/wk. No food noise, hunger mostly wiped out around 6+ mg

Will hold on 10 as the Phase 2 clinical showed 8-10 was the best compromise.

I don't think I could ask for anything better.
Remarkable results @touringsedan ! So am I correct that you've lost 24-30 pounds in 6 weeks?

And were you on GLP1s prior to beginning Retatrutide + Cagri ( maybe we should start calling it "Cagri-trutide ")?
 
dionysos said:
Remarkable results @touringsedan ! So am I correct that you've lost 24-30 pounds in 6 weeks?

And were you on GLP1s prior to beginning Retatrutide + Cagri ( maybe we should start calling it "Cagri-trutide ")?
Was on Tirz (zepbound) on month before, paying way to much retail and was excited for the GCGR in Reta for much less.

Since Reta is already a triple stack, I wanted to focus on doing it on its own and following the Phase 2 trial dosing.
 
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