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Bunts said:
In short, yes.

I started pinning with a 4mm needle, in a pen. The sting was almost instant and then tapered off throughout the day. The following day I would have a bit of a welt but no pain. The day after that I would have no pain at all and an almost invisible mark.

I jumped up to 6mm as I had heard it reduced the sting. Well, initially that was true. Then it came back just the same as the 4mm pin and lasted just as long.

It didnt matter where I pinned either, all the same result really. I tend to stick to Glutes now. Its a tad difficult to access, but with a pen, its easy enough.

The good news (dont worry, there is some!) is that after a few weeks my welts/sting/pain seems to have really reduced. It could be the 6mm pin, it could be just my body getting used to it. It could also just be ME getting used to it. If I think about it, I can feel it. But it doesnt impact my day anywhere near as much as it used to.

Hope that helps 🙂
Thanks for this how many days do you pin 5 on 2off or every day?
 
Phatmax said:
Thanks for this how many days do you pin 5 on 2off or every day?
Anela, who designed the Glow protocol, states that the proper dosage schedule is 7 days on, no days off. When I start, I'll follow her recommendation. She says that the 5 on/2 off schedule was started by wellness clinics.
 
Chili777 said:
Anela, who designed the Glow protocol, states that the proper dosage schedule is 7 days on, no days off. When I start, I'll follow her recommendation. She says that the 5 on/2 off schedule was started by wellness clinics.
ok so just do 7 days 2mg a day.. I'm not using Glow although I do take bp157 tb500 on there own
 
Thanks for asking the questions and for everyone's replies.

I've been reading to titrate up over 8-12 weeks from 1.0-2.0 in 0.5 increments (1.0, 1.5, 2.0) than cycle off for 2-4 weeks.

Has anyone titrated up from 1.0 or are y'all starting testing at 2.0 and increasing from there?

I'm low and slow on all my testing thus far and want to make thoughtful decisions.
 
ftv10hb said:
For someone looking specifically for hair growth on their head, is the pin effective or is the cream the only way to go?

If you are looking specifically for hair growth, I would recommend looking into the raw powder forms of AHK-cu and GHK-cu. You can make a topical hair serum. I follow Anela's protocol for it which is AHK-Cu (1%): (0.6g) and GHK-Cu (6%): (3.6g) in the same 60ml Base. The base serum I like is "The Ordinary Multi-Peptide Serum for Hair Density" which can be bought on amazon. Apply it to the scalp daily. For best results apply after a shower or dampen your scalp before application. Also, you can use a micro-needle roller for a little extra absorption.
 
MeedzMoar said:
Thanks for asking the questions and for everyone's replies.

I've been reading to titrate up over 8-12 weeks from 1.0-2.0 in 0.5 increments (1.0, 1.5, 2.0) than cycle off for 2-4 weeks.

Has anyone titrated up from 1.0 or are y'all starting testing at 2.0 and increasing from there?

I'm low and slow on all my testing thus far and want to make thoughtful decisions.
yes i started on 2mg was going to do 5 on and 2 off but not sure now as people are doing 7 days for 8 weeks
 
Phatmax said:
yes i started on 2mg was going to do 5 on and 2 off but not sure now as people are doing 7 days for 8 weeks
I’m still learning about a lot of this stuff, but so far the only actual physiological reason I’ve seen given for a 5on/2off cycle for a peptide is for the ones that are known to cause water retention or bloating. In other cases it seems to just be an arbitrary modification or way to attempt to be conservative with the dosing. I’m not at the point yet where I would confidently tell someone what they should do themselves, but I will say that personally, in the absence of some known accepted reason like a GLP designed to be injected weekly or a specific half-life or side effect related reason, I am defaulting to daily injections as opposed to 5on/2off. Being conservative to begin a new protocol makes sense to me but I will do this by starting with a low dose daily as opposed to taking 2 days off a week without a specific reason why.
 
ftv10hb said:
I’m still learning about a lot of this stuff, but so far the only actual physiological reason I’ve seen given for a 5on/2off cycle for a peptide is for the ones that are known to cause water retention or bloating. In other cases it seems to just be an arbitrary modification or way to attempt to be conservative with the dosing. I’m not at the point yet where I would confidently tell someone what they should do themselves, but I will say that personally, in the absence of some known accepted reason like a GLP designed to be injected weekly or a specific half-life or side effect related reason, I am defaulting to daily injections as opposed to 5on/2off. Being conservative to begin a new protocol makes sense to me but I will do this by starting with a low dose daily as opposed to taking 2 days off a week without a specific reason why.
Good advice. There is never a reason NOT to start low and slow with any peptide in my book, and every reason to do that. Unless you're a YOLO Tiktoker and feeling lucky, use your head and take a pragmatic approach.
 
Chili777 said:
Yup. Although if you take those plus GHK-CU, you still are using Glow.
yes but not in one pin. i do 2mg GHKcu 1mg tb500 1mg bp157 are you doing 2mg of each? thanks
 
Phatmax said:
yes but not in one pin. i do 2mg GHKcu 1mg tb500 1mg bp157 are you doing 2mg of each? thanks
Not yet. I have 2 kits of KLOW 80 blend just sitting here tho. I'm currently finishing a cycle of KPV alone and then I'll start it. So many peptides, so little time!
 
Phatmax said:
Thanks for this how many days do you pin 5 on 2off or every day?
I see you've had a few other replies but just to throw my 2 cents in.

Nope, I run every day of the week with no breaks. As others have stated, the 5 on, 2 off was just a schedule run by wellness clinics as they were shut weekends.

Hope that helps 🙂
 
Bunts said:
I see you've had a few other replies but just to throw my 2 cents in.

Nope, I run every day of the week with no breaks. As others have stated, the 5 on, 2 off was just a schedule run by wellness clinics as they were shut weekends.

Hope that helps 🙂
Thanks how much do you pin every day of GHK-cu?
 
Phatmax said:
Thanks how much do you pin every day of GHK-cu?
I started at 2 weeks at a 2.5mg dose. Im now up to 3mg daily. Ill continue on this for a while. I may move up to 5 as I have heard anecdotal reports of 5 being the real sweet spot for change!
 
Bunts said:
I started at 2 weeks at a 2.5mg dose. Im now up to 3mg daily. Ill continue on this for a while. I may move up to 5 as I have heard anecdotal reports of 5 being the real sweet spot for change!
one last question where do you pin .. I'm going in the love handles but the sting is bad still and lasts for 12hrs plus
 
Phatmax said:
one last question where do you pin .. I'm going in the love handles but the sting is bad still and lasts for 12hrs plus
Ask as many questions as you like dude, its all good.

I tried stomach, love handles and glutes. I should mention im quite lean ~15% BF right now. Love handles hurt, mostly because I dont carry a lot of fat there. Stomach was okay, but the reaction I got was pretty bad.

Glutes for me, personally. I find that the best area. Plenty of area to rotate and, to quote Enzo Ferrari: "Whats behind you doesnt matter" 😆

I really do stand by it hurting less and less as time goes on. I barely notice it now, even at a slightly higher dose
 
MeedzMoar said:
Thanks for asking the questions and for everyone's replies.

I've been reading to titrate up over 8-12 weeks from 1.0-2.0 in 0.5 increments (1.0, 1.5, 2.0) than cycle off for 2-4 weeks.

Has anyone titrated up from 1.0 or are y'all starting testing at 2.0 and increasing from there?

I'm low and slow on all my testing thus far and want to make thoughtful decisions.
As a data point for you I just went full send on GHK-cu and KPV. 2 mg GHK and 400 mcg KPV single pin in the PM. If I'm super sore or tweaked something I'll double that.
 
Not_Your_Dad said:
As a data point for you I just went full send on GHK-cu and KPV. 2 mg GHK and 400 mcg KPV single pin in the PM. If I'm super sore or tweaked something I'll double that.
Please let us know how it goes! I hope well for you.
 
Phatmax said:
one last question where do you pin .. I'm going in the love handles but the sting is bad still and lasts for 12hrs plus
In the Anela GLOW protocol, she says to divide the pin up into 3 separate mini-pins, all within the same square inch, and then hit the site with a vibrator gun to massage it, which dissipates the peptides. If that doesn't work, she says to use a lidocaine cream right after the pins. Apparently, breaking up the shot into multiple areas close to each other reduces the histamine reaction. I haven't tried any of this, and 3 pins seems like a lot, but I can see trying 2 pins. I'll see what happens. What we do for this hobby.
 
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