Finally pinning Tesamorelin and Ipamorelin

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Jack.donaghy said:
Love your little peptide blog! Question, do you need cjc in this stack?
I dropped the tesamorelin and have continued the ipamorelin/cjc blend. After a lot of research, I concluded that the tesa was comparatively expensive and didn't do anything more than the ipa/cjc blend does.

An interesting effect of the ipa/cjc on top of retatrutide: I'm currently in a weight-loss plateau. However, my body fat percentage is shrinking and my muscle mass is increasing. So, although my weight isn't changing, my body composition is definitely improving.
 
Mr. Blonde said:
And as soon as it began it has ended. Tesamorelin treats me just like cjc, fucked up sleep and itchy spot. Guess I'm just in that group of people it affects.

Got 9 vials of tesamorelin and ipamorelin for sale lol
That’s how I feel about Reta. I wasted money on two kits and I hate it.
 
nevets said:
Do you guys mix them or pin separately?
When I started i pinned separately. Now I am using pens and mix them. So much easier..
 
nevets said:
Do you guys mix them or pin separately?
I mix them in the syringe not the vial. That way I can bump up the Tes. after a hardcore workout. If I go too high on the Ipa I get too hungry.
 
I am actually researching Tesa right now. I screwed up and ordered a Tesa/IPA blend that I haven't started yet. mainly because it is a 1:1 blend and to get the right dose of Tesa I'd have to take 6-7 times the dose of IPA. I was looking at doing the IPA at 300mcg before bed. So, I ordered a second kit of TESA only and I am planning on pinning that at 1.5mg in the AM and then take my blend at night so I end up with a daily dose of 1.8mg Tesa, 300mcg of IPA. Is your plan to take it m-F, or every day?

Here is my CoPilot Prompt, I am running it in Research mode and it has been cranking for about 20 minutes so far.

Prompt:

Can you give me a summary of all the Tesamorelin posts at the GLP1forums site. The summary should cover what size dose was taken, how often, how long, morning, afternoon, or night. Then give me links to the first thread in each conversation.

Then summarize the same information in a different chart based on reddit posts, and websites other than GLP1Forum

Then a 3rd summarization of the same information in a different chart based on research papers, clinical trials and other sites that would not be selling Tesamorelin.
 
The research came back with most protocols being daily, 2mg, taken at night on an empty stomach. The cycles are a bit more spread out. The range from 10-12 weeks to 6 months. I have enough Tesa for a little over 9 weeks. I might ramp up from 1mg for 2 weeks, which is a commonly mentioned starting point and ramp up to 2mg for the final 8 weeks. They recommend 8-10 weeks break in between. That would be two 10 week cycles a year. If a second cycle is needed. Almost all the recommendations emphasized an empty stomach or taking it 90 minutes after your last meal.
 
Grok was a bit clearer in its summary and pretty much came up with the same results as CoPilot. I think the main difference between user research and clinical research is in the clinical trial they tend to run a cycle several times longer. And maybe that is due to a lot of these trials being sued to treat HIV patients. I can;t do much about the formatting of the tables, but I think you can read between the lines and get the gist of it. Or copy/paste into Excel and use a pipe delimiter to put the data into columns.

### Summary of Tesamorelin Posts on GLP1Forum

Based on the threads discussing Tesamorelin on GLP1Forum, users commonly report doses ranging from 1 mg to 2 mg per injection, with the 2 mg dose being the most frequent, often aligned with clinical recommendations. Frequency is typically daily or 5 days on/2 days off (e.g., Monday-Friday), to prevent desensitization or manage side effects like water retention. Durations vary widely, from as short as 1-4 weeks (often for initial trials) to 8-26 weeks or even 3-6 months for longer cycles, with some users cycling multiple times over years. Timing is predominantly at night or before bed, usually on an empty stomach (e.g., 2-3 hours after last meal), though a few mention morning or twice-daily dosing when stacked. Many users stack Tesamorelin with Ipamorelin (doses of 100-500 mcg), CJC-1295, or GLP-1 agonists like tirzepatide for synergy in fat loss, muscle preservation, or belly fat reduction. Reported benefits include visceral fat loss, improved body composition, and energy, but side effects like injection site stinging, water retention (2-6 lbs), increased hunger, or elevated pulse are common. Experiences are anecdotal, with some users adjusting doses based on tolerance (e.g., starting at 1 mg and ramping to 2 mg).

Here are links to the starting post of each relevant thread (conversation):

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### Summary Chart from Reddit Posts and Other Websites (Excluding GLP1Forum)

The following table compiles user-reported and general dosing information from Reddit threads (primarily r/Peptides, r/PEDs, r/Testosterone, and r/PeptideGuide) and non-forum websites like WebMD (mentioned in discussions). Doses are commonly 1-2 mg, with daily or near-daily frequency, durations of weeks to months, and nighttime timing predominant. Stacking with Ipamorelin is frequent. These are anecdotal or general guidelines, not medical advice.

| Source | Dose Size | Frequency | Duration | Timing |

|--------|-----------|-----------|----------|--------|

| r/Peptides (Tesamorelin dosing) | 2 mg | Daily | Not specified | Night, empty stomach |

| r/Peptides (Tesamorelin, dosage, exercise) | Not specified (standard implied) | 1x daily, 5 on/2 off | Not specified | Before bed |

| r/Peptides (When to take tesamorelin) | 1 mg (with 250 mcg Ipamorelin) | Daily | Not specified | Night, 2-3 hours after dinner |

| r/PeptideGuide (Peptide Dosing Cheat Sheet) | 250-500 mcg (general peptide, but context includes Tesamorelin-like) | Daily | 4-8 weeks | Not specified |

| r/PEDs (Tesamorelin dosages) | 1 mg | Daily | 6 months (3 cycles) | Morning, upon waking |

| r/PeptideGuide (Q&A: Stacking Ipamorelin) | 1-2 mg | Daily, split into two doses | Not specified | Morning and before bed |

| r/Testosterone (Tesamorelin or ipamorelin fat loss) | 1-2 mg (with 100 mcg Ipamorelin) | Daily | Not specified | Not specified |

| r/Peptides (Tesamorelin And Ipamorelin Frequency) | 2 mg (with 250 mcg Ipamorelin) | Daily | Not specified | Night (Tesamorelin), morning and night (Ipamorelin) |

| r/AminoInsights (Complete Guide to Tesamorelin) | Not specified | Once daily, 5 on/2 off | 20-52 weeks | Before bed |

| r/Peptides (Tesamorelin dosing, older thread) | 1 mg | Daily, 5 on/2 off | Not specified | Night, 90 mins after last meal |

### Summary Chart from Research Papers, Clinical Trials, and Non-Commercial Sites

This table draws from authoritative sources like FDA labels, Mayo Clinic, NEJM, PMC, ScienceDirect, and MedlinePlus, focusing on clinical data without promotional content. Standard dosing is 2 mg daily subcutaneously, with durations from 12-52 weeks in trials, and timing often daily without strict hour specificity (though one trial specified morning). These are for approved uses like HIV-associated lipodystrophy; off-label use isn't covered.

| Source | Dose Size | Frequency | Duration | Timing |

|--------|-----------|-----------|----------|--------|

| Mayo Clinic (Tesamorelin subcutaneous) | 2 mg | Once daily | Determined by doctor | Not specified (around same time daily) |

| FDA Label (EGRIFTA®) | 2 mg | Once daily | 26-52 weeks (trials) | Not specified (subcutaneous, rotate sites) |

| NEJM (Metabolic Effects in HIV Patients) | 2 mg | Once daily | 26 weeks | Morning (6 a.m. to noon) |

| PMC (Safety in Type 2 Diabetes Patients) | 1-2 mg | Once daily | 12 weeks | Not specified |

| ScienceDirect (Tesamorelin Overview) | 0.5-2 mg (linear PK increase) | Once daily | Up to 12 months | Not specified |

| MedlinePlus (Tesamorelin Injection) | Not specified (standard implied) | Once daily | Not specified | Around same time every day |
 
Mr. Blonde said:
Just started blasting these two tonight. Went straight to 2mg of Tesa (like clinical trials) and 250mcg of Ipa (might raise upto 500mcg) but have read mixed stuff on the saturation dosage of Ipa.

If anyone has any experience with these two, running a similar protocol or completely different, let us all know! Thanks in advance!!

Mr. Blonde said:
And as soon as it began it has ended. Tesamorelin treats me just like cjc, fucked up sleep and itchy spot. Guess I'm just in that group of people it affects.

Got 9 vials of tesamorelin and ipamorelin for sale lol
have you tried

30mg of Fexofenadine (allegra antihistamine )

1 hr before your shot ?
 
madpeptide said:
have you tried

30mg of Fexofenadine (allegra antihistamine )

1 hr before your shot ?
I might revisit and give this a try.
 
I started Tesa 1.8mg, cjc/ipa 300mcg daily before bed 2 nights ago. I don't know whether it's just coincidence or the peps but the last two nights I have slept better than I have in a long time. Waking up rested and with energy.
 
I'm hoping my Tesa arrives in the next couple weeks. I'm looking for something to help my sleep. Epithalon and Selank haven't done anything yet.
 
I just want to clarify here, because people often confuse the two.

Visceral fat is found under your muscle layer, surrounding your internal organs (aka viscera.)

The belly fat you can grab and inject into is not that.

This matters, because the visceral fat causes greater health risks. And it's hard to quantify without scans or fancy smart scales. A waist measurement won't give you that information.
 
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