FDA Intends to Take Action Against Non-FDA-Approved GLP-1 Drugs

[geoguy78]

At least the troglodytes at r/retatrutide haven't migrated here.

That sub is insufferable. A mix of "Look at me" spam by bodybuilder bros, and straight up bro science medical advice.

 

[geoguy78]

I have about a year of compound Tirzepatide to work through and the fearmongering is real. I'm debating buying a bunch of grey kits after seeing this article. Seems like something similar happened last year and cause the same type of panic so that's keeping me at bay currently haha

I'm still working through all the tirz I bought in the "Great Panic of 2024" Back in the days when $220 for a kit of T30 was a good deal....

 

[Chili777]

That sub is insufferable. A mix of "Look at me" spam by bodybuilder bros, and straight up bro science medical advice.

I had to quit it to preserve my sanity. I counted 13 overdoses one week. "But I only took 20 units!!"

 

[IshimaruKenta]

Not to fearmonger, because do not listen to me, I have anxiety issues and a fear of failing supply chain that I just barely keep in check and do not allow to devolve into full-on hoarding. But I really do believe that someday, it WILL be real. I know it's never been real before and it's always been business as usual, but grey as it stands is INSANELY easy, INSANELY inexpensive, INSANELY legal, and it all just feels much too good to stay true forever when there are powerful billion-dollar companies who lose money to it.

I proudly worship at the Church of randompersonrandom. And I don't even believe in Jebus.

 

[OregonSunshine]

That sub is insufferable. A mix of "Look at me" spam by bodybuilder bros, and straight up bro science medical advice.

The 'roid rage is real there, for sure.

 

[randompersonrandom]

I proudly worship at the Church of randompersonrandom. And I don't even believe in Jebus.

When I start a cult, it's gonna be awful. I mean, it'll be fine for the first ten years, but when we run out of GLP-1's, we'll all eat each other.

 

[Mr. Blonde]

That sub is insufferable. A mix of "Look at me" spam by bodybuilder bros, and straight up bro science medical advice.

Good old bro science. 50% fact, 50% magic, and 100% results XD

 

[Chili777]

Good old bro science. 50% fact, 50% magic, and 100% results XD

I like the posts where the Bro is sweating uncontrollably, can't eat or sleep and possibly bleeding from their eye sockets and someone asks what their stack is and they list 9 things. The sheer entertainment value is worth it.

 

[yrrdead]

Not to fearmonger, because do not listen to me, I have anxiety issues and a fear of failing supply chain that I just barely keep in check and do not allow to devolve into full-on hoarding. But I really do believe that someday, it WILL be real. I know it's never been real before and it's always been business as usual, but grey as it stands is INSANELY easy, INSANELY inexpensive, INSANELY legal, and it all just feels much too good to stay true forever when there are powerful billion-dollar companies who lose money to it.

The more I read about this and the previous similar news stories the more its about big time domestic compounders/med spas/wellness pharmacies. Nothing to do with real grey. Like this story is basically directed at HIMS/HERS. I don't think anyone cares about china/grey market.

 

[Js351]

Not to fearmonger, because do not listen to me, I have anxiety issues and a fear of failing supply chain that I just barely keep in check and do not allow to devolve into full-on hoarding. But I really do believe that someday, it WILL be real. I know it's never been real before and it's always been business as usual, but grey as it stands is INSANELY easy, INSANELY inexpensive, INSANELY legal, and it all just feels much too good to stay true forever when there are powerful billion-dollar companies who lose money to it.

This is my take too. You don’t give them enough credit though EL is a trillion dollar company. They blamed a recent quarter when they didn’t hit their earnings targets on compounding. I don’t believe the vast majority of those people will be able to afford EL prices if they get compounding shut down, which they will at some point. Those people will find grey or quit taking the drug. Grey will just be the next whack-a-mole they target when they still don’t hit earnings.

People like to say sourcing from china (for hgh and anabolics etc) has been around forever and hasn’t been targeted in all those years. GLP’s are a cash cow, mainstream, designer drug though, and that is how it is different this time. I don’t think it’s really fear mongering to say you should take advantage of current extremely low prices on something that is easily available, who’s retail price is 25x higher, to protect against that changing. Grey prices can’t really go much lower in my opinion, so I’m just locking in my price by buying up a huge stockpile right now. $2k today enables continued access for as long as I want, which is ridiculously cheap for something like this.

 

[HidingInPlainView]

The more I read about this and the previous similar news stories the more its about big time domestic compounders/med spas/wellness pharmacies. Nothing to do with real grey. Like this story is basically directed at HIMS/HERS. I don't think anyone cares about china/grey market.

I think they know. I think they care, because it does take business from them, but I think they couldn't keep up with the sheer logistical game of gray market vendor whack-a-mole even if all of their profits depended on it.

Instead, I believe they were the driving force on the Peptide crackdown back in December by the FDA, right around the time they announced losses. My assumption is they paid the FDA to "investigate" peptide companies that showed up in the top 10 google search and the FDA sent cease and desist letters that scared the hell out of a few of them to the point of removing GLP's from their peptide stores, putting up membership login shopping walls, and removing any product information that could be deemed as medical advice.

I could just as easily be dead wrong...

 

[yrrdead]

I think they know. I think they care, because it does take business from them, but I think they couldn't keep up with the sheer logistical game of gray market vendor whack-a-mole even if all of their profits depended on it.

Instead, I believe they were the driving force on the Peptide crackdown back in December by the FDA, right around the time they announced losses. My assumption is they paid the FDA to "investigate" peptide companies that showed up in the top 10 google search and the FDA sent cease and desist letters that scared the hell out of a few of them to the point of removing GLP's from their peptide stores, putting up membership login shopping walls, and removing any product information that could be deemed as medical advice.

I could just as easily be dead wrong...

They don't pay the FDA, they pay congressmen, senators, and presidents. Its much more effective and completely legal. I don't think you are respecting the individual rights of Eli Lilly et al. Corporations are people too, at least in the United States.

 

[HereKittyKitty]

Oh please protect us from weight loss, lowered A1C, and increased health, FDA. What would we do without you? /s

About now, with this FDA, we might all get vaccinated.

 

[Nmcoyote1]

This is my take too. You don’t give them enough credit though EL is a trillion dollar company. They blamed a recent quarter when they didn’t hit their earnings targets on compounding. I don’t believe the vast majority of those people will be able to afford EL prices if they get compounding shut down, which they will at some point. Those people will find grey or quit taking the drug. Grey will just be the next whack-a-mole they target when they still don’t hit earnings.

People like to say sourcing from china (for hgh and anabolics etc) has been around forever and hasn’t been targeted in all those years. GLP’s are a cash cow, mainstream, designer drug though, and that is how it is different this time. I don’t think it’s really fear mongering to say you should take advantage of current extremely low prices on something that is easily available, who’s retail price is 25x higher, to protect against that changing. Grey prices can’t really go much lower in my opinion, so I’m just locking in my price by buying up a huge stockpile right now. $2k today enables continued access for as long as I want, which is ridiculously cheap for something like this.

Overall I think you are correct. A few newer ones like Reta will probably go down in price like Tirz did. Sema and Tirz have dropped by 75%+ in the last couple years. Reta prices have already dropped by half since early last year and will likely continue to drop. But it's the hot current thing. I agree that most peps probably are not going much lower in price. But I could be wrong. I spent $3k+ on a multiyear stash of peps after several scares. That stash is now worth half that price

 

[manfisher]

Why does the government always insist on destroying things that actually help people? I was a long time user of Swedish Snus as well and would order form Sweden often. It was a great tobacco product because studies show it has little to no health concerns that are traditionally found with smoking and dipping. It helped countless people quite smoking. but, the FDA in all of their health wisdom, decided that wasn't good for us and halted the importation of it. Real big sons of ******* up there in the FDA.

 

[manfisher]

About now, with this FDA, we might all get vaccinated.

Seriously, happy to threaten us with our jobs, bank accounts, etc. for an experimental drug that was proven to cause myocarditis, stroke and potentially cancer that did nothing to fight off the illness but sure, tell me why I can't stay at a healthy weight and have a conscious choice on what I put in my body.

 

[Wallydog]

This is my take too. You don’t give them enough credit though EL is a trillion dollar company. They blamed a recent quarter when they didn’t hit their earnings targets on compounding. I don’t believe the vast majority of those people will be able to afford EL prices if they get compounding shut down, which they will at some point. Those people will find grey or quit taking the drug. Grey will just be the next whack-a-mole they target when they still don’t hit earnings.

People like to say sourcing from china (for hgh and anabolics etc) has been around forever and hasn’t been targeted in all those years. GLP’s are a cash cow, mainstream, designer drug though, and that is how it is different this time. I don’t think it’s really fear mongering to say you should take advantage of current extremely low prices on something that is easily available, who’s retail price is 25x higher, to protect against that changing. Grey prices can’t really go much lower in my opinion, so I’m just locking in my price by buying up a huge stockpile right now. $2k today enables continued access for as long as I want, which is ridiculously cheap for something like this.

"$2k today enables continued access for as long as I want,"

What does this mean? 2kwould buy enough to last you ... forever?

 

[swimmer]

Why does the government always insist on destroying things that actually help people? I was a long time user of Swedish Snus as well and would order form Sweden often. It was a great tobacco product because studies show it has little to no health concerns that are traditionally found with smoking and dipping. It helped countless people quite smoking. but, the FDA in all of their health wisdom, decided that wasn't good for us and halted the importation of it. Real big sons of ******* up there in the FDA.

I loved Snus. It did not cause cancer because it was heat cured rather than smoke cured. I was so pissed when they did that!! The FDA did not want us to have a cancer free choice for a tobacco product!!!