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They will never be able to kill the grey market 100% ... But they don't require total success to put us in a lot of pain. Comparing peptides to fent is not reassuring. There seems to be plenty of fent around, but buying and selling it can result in life-altering legal consequences. That's not the case for our peptides and it would be devastating if it was.

And, cynically, I find it easy to believe that The Man will deploy more resources to protect corporate profits than to fight street drugs.

It is only a lack of political will that keeps our scene alive and I fear the recent high profile news has changed that.

Why wouldn't you stock up if you can afford it? The future is uncertain, and the stuff keeps.
 
BigGuy said:
100% agreed. I was fine paying $200–$300 a month for compounded Tirz at first, but now it feels like most of the “reputable” compounders have either switched to subscription models or started throwing in huge doses of B6/B12 (and who knows what else) just to stay “compliant.” I get that it’s a business, but these GLP-1s are true lifesavers. There has to be a reasonable middle ground here.
I recently read semaglutide patent expires in 2026 and thought were still gonna get raped but not as ferociously.... further research shows that's for Canada only however that works.
 
Airborne Daddy said:
I recently read semaglutide patent expires in 2026 and thought were still gonna get raped but not as ferociously.... further research shows that's for Canada only however that works.
That’s about the time they will say it makes people blind or something ridiculous and take it off of the market and sell Reta at full price. Like when they said FenPhen would kill you.
 
Morbius said:
They will never be able to kill the grey market 100% ... But they don't require total success to put us in a lot of pain. Comparing peptides to fent is not reassuring. There seems to be plenty of fent around, but buying and selling it can result in life-altering legal consequences. That's not the case for our peptides and it would be devastating if it was.

And, cynically, I find it easy to believe that The Man will deploy more resources to protect corporate profits than to fight street drugs.

It is only a lack of political will that keeps our scene alive and I fear the recent high profile news has changed that.

Why wouldn't you stock up if you can afford it? The future is uncertain, and the stuff keeps.
I thought a recent Jano interview said tirz keeps with minimum degradation in a standard freezer at least 10 years.... didn't listen to the 45 minute podcast but read the high lights.
 
AndyPanda said:
That’s about the time they will say it makes people blind or something ridiculous and take it off of the market and sell Reta at full price. Like when they said FenPhen would kill you.
And I believe ur absolutely right and there's already a news release waiting!
 
Regardless of patent status, we can already synthesize these ourselves, we have the technology. The only thing preventing us from having it made in the US is the price. If you wanted to buy kilos of GLP’s it would be worth the investment. 🤷🏼‍♀️
 
50ShadesGreyMarket said:
Regardless of patent status, we can already synthesize these ourselves, we have the technology. The only thing preventing us from having it made in the US is the price. If you wanted to buy kilos of GLP’s it would be worth the investment. 🤷🏼‍♀️
I know a guy...

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I just listened to a podcast and he requested the FDA green list for GLP-1 that compound pharmacies use and the list he got from the Dept of Health and Human Services had the names of all the manufacturers redacted. That tells me that doing our own research and choosing our own suppliers is safer for me besides being affordable.

Go grey❗
 
ghreid said:
The U.S. Food and Drug Administration today established a “green list” import alert to help stop potentially dangerous GLP-1 (glucagon-like peptide-1) active pharmaceutical ingredients (APIs) from unverified foreign sources from entering the U.S. market. To protect patients who use these compounded drugs, the green list will include GLP-1 APIs from facilities the agency has inspected or evaluated that appear to be in compliance with the FDA’s rigorous standards – standards applicable to all APIs manufactured in the U.S. APIs from other sources are subject to detention without physical examination.
This absolutely has nothing to do with patient safety and everything to do with protecting the profits of the pharmaceutical industry.
 
Ended up ordering 3 more kits, now I have enough supplies for next 5 years.. you just never know, things change too rapidly
 
HappyQuokka said:
Ended up ordering 3 more kits, now I have enough supplies for next 5 years.. you just never know, things change too rapidly
How did you order with China going dark the last few days?
 
AndyPanda said:
Truth! Nobody cares about your health. They just love control.
There are plenty of folks who care about your health along with plenty of folks who don't. Even some of the anti-vaxxers and folks advocating for ivermectin usage instead are sincere (along with sizable numbers of people who say those things to make money).
 
Morbius said:
They will never be able to kill the grey market 100% ... But they don't require total success to put us in a lot of pain. Comparing peptides to fent is not reassuring. There seems to be plenty of fent around, but buying and selling it can result in life-altering legal consequences. That's not the case for our peptides and it would be devastating if it was.

And, cynically, I find it easy to believe that The Man will deploy more resources to protect corporate profits than to fight street drugs.

It is only a lack of political will that keeps our scene alive and I fear the recent high profile news has changed that.

Why wouldn't you stock up if you can afford it? The future is uncertain, and the stuff keeps.
I'm a hypocrite because I have a large stash, however, I'll beg to differ with you.

Prices tend to drop. Weight loss products keep getting better. I do believe folks who use research peptides should have a minimum stock of 3-6 months, however.
 
I ordered from a vendor I’ve used before.

They ship from a US warehouse.

I don’t think I can mention their name here since their account shows as restricted.
 
HappyQuokka said:
I ordered from a vendor I’ve used before.

They ship from a US warehouse.

I don’t think I can mention their name here since their account shows as restricted.
where do I find the restricted vendor list?
 
fatty33 said:
where do I find the restricted vendor list?
Archived/Inactive Vendors​[archived internal link]
it’s the most recent one.
 
HappyQuokka said:
I ordered from a vendor I’ve used before.

They ship from a US warehouse.

I don’t think I can mention their name here since their account shows as restricted.
You're allowed to say any vendor name you want. The "restricted" thing doesn't mean they're sketch, it means they aren't a sponsor, and only sponsoring vendors are allowed to post. But taking down their OLD posts would be kind of mean, because a lot of people come here to learn about all the vendors, so their threads stay and they're just listed as restricted.
 
ghreid said:
The U.S. Food and Drug Administration today established a “green list” import alert to help stop potentially dangerous GLP-1 (glucagon-like peptide-1) active pharmaceutical ingredients (APIs) from unverified foreign sources from entering the U.S. market. To protect patients who use these compounded drugs, the green list will include GLP-1 APIs from facilities the agency has inspected or evaluated that appear to be in compliance with the FDA’s rigorous standards – standards applicable to all APIs manufactured in the U.S. APIs from other sources are subject to detention without physical examination.
I've read elsewhere that these actions shows that the FDA does not intend on trying to enforce patent protection laws against compounding pharmacies and that the stock of both Lilly and Novo dropped a little after the announcement. The companies will have to civilly attempt to shut down compounding in order to stop it.
 
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